If you got a $1760 parking violation would you cry?

[Zebo]

Yes, because you can totally spot autoimmune diseases and other crippling diseases by sight alone.

I'm not saying you can but there is some fraud going on. It's like getting disability which has quintupled in last 20 years. I have no reason to believe people were more or less disabled 20 years ago. But 5x as many people are on it.

 

[tynopik]

Yes, because you can totally spot autoimmune diseases and other crippling diseases by sight alone.

well, if they can walk normally, then you can rule out a crippling disease by sight alone . . .


(but as mentioned, they might just be the 'chauffeur')

 

[Ns1]

well, if they can walk normally, then you can rule out a crippling disease by sight alone . . .


(but as mentioned, they might just be the 'chauffeur')

They might be able to walk normally today, but not tomorrow. Thus is the nature of crippling diseases.

 

[zinfamous]

Minimum $10k fine + 30 days jail, no contest, IMO.

fuck those dirtbags.

 

[tynopik]

They might be able to walk normally today, but not tomorrow. Thus is the nature of crippling diseases.

if they can walk normally today then they shouldn't be using the handicapped slot today

 

[SKORPI0]

http://www.dmv.org/articles/how-to-apply-for-a-temporary-disabilityhandicap-placard/

In most instances disability refers to at least one of the following conditions:

• Lack full use of an arm or both arms.
• Cannot walk a certain number of feet without stopping to rest. This greatly varies by state. Missouri, for instance, limits it to 50 feet, while Texas uses 200 feet as its gauge.
• Cannot walk without the assistance of a cane, crutch, brace, prosthetic device, wheelchair, or another person.
• Have a cardiac condition that’s listed as Class III or Class IV in severity according to the American Heart Association.
• Cannot walk without the aid of portable oxygen.
• Have a visual acuity of 20/200 or less in the better eye with correcting lenses.
• Have a visual acuity of 20/200 but with a limited field of vision in which the widest diameter of the visual field subtends an angle of 20 degrees or less.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/war...-Parking-Could-Be-Boon-to-City-238476421.html

The new law is a response, in part, to a growing trend of fraud and abuse by drivers with access to a handicapped cards. According to the Secretary of State’s office, 299,530 blue disabled parking placards in Illinois last year, while only 30,510 drivers have qualified under the new standards.

So based on that only 1 out of 9 are legit disabled.

 

[Ns1]

Might not be able to walk in a few hours due to muscle weakness or something. Maybe each step causes excruciating pain. I'm not one to judge since I'm not the one living with a debilitating disease and/or other handicap.

Easy enough for able bodies to say things like:

if they can walk normally today then they shouldn't be using the handicapped slot today

 

[tynopik]

Might not be able to walk in a few hours due to muscle weakness or something

let's be honest, such exotic cases account for something like 0.01% of legit handicap placards

Maybe each step causes excruciating pain.

If each step causes excruciating pain
1. it will be immediately obvious, trust me
2. they can use a wheelchair

 

[halik]

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/2-investigates-disabled-parking-placard-abuse/ngRDY/

Officers wrote the woman two citations worth $880 each for violating the meter and abusing the parking placard which was also seized.

Sure placard abuse is not right but 2x $880 seems pretty excessive.

Good, low enforcement -> very steep penalties.

 

[feralkid]

The perfect punishment for abusing the handicap placard is to give the offenders what they truly wish for - make them handicap.

handicapped.

Like your logic and spelling.

 

[Ns1]

let's be honest, such exotic cases account for something like 0.01% of legit handicap placards

Not gonna argue with you there, but those .01%'s exist

If each step causes excruciating pain
1. it will be immediately obvious, trust me
2. they can use a wheelchair

Sorry, do you actually have disabled and/or handicapped friends/relatives? In your haste to judge, can you really tell if someone is moving 40% slower than their usual because of the pain they're in?

 

[tynopik]

Sorry, do you actually have disabled and/or handicapped friends/relatives? In your haste to judge, can you really tell if someone is moving 40% slower than their usual because of the pain they're in?

If you're only moving 40% slower, you aren't in excruciating pain

 

[Ns1]

If you're only moving 40% slower, you aren't in excruciating pain

lol ok buddy. Once again, easy as fuck for an able bodied person to say.

 

[Leros]

It's a bit unfortunate that fines are fixed rates instead of relative to income. For somebody wealthy, an $800 fine would be nothing. It would suck, but I could pay an $800 fine without any financial hardship. For somebody on the poverty line, barely scraping by week to week, an $800 fine is nearly impossible to pay.

 

[Ichinisan]

It's a bit unfortunate that fines are fixed rates instead of relative to income. For somebody wealthy, an $800 fine would be nothing. It would suck, but I could pay an $800 fine without any financial hardship. For somebody on the poverty line, barely scraping by week to week, an $800 fine is nearly impossible to pay.

Good. The risk of financial ruin is a perfect deterrent for people in the situation you describe.

The fine is $0 if you don't violate the law.

 

[waggy]

well, if they can walk normally, then you can rule out a crippling disease by sight alone . . .


(but as mentioned, they might just be the 'chauffeur')

No you can't. I know many who are disabled and have them (i have one but rarely use it). Many you couldn't tell by how they walk into the store.

many with heart or even chronic pain may start off fine. then a few hundred yards (easy to do shopping) they have slowed down a lot and limping.


I will say i think its far more abused then people think though. i would say roughly 50% of them are faking it and its even higher in Chicago. It got so bad they cancelled the free parking with a placard to try to curb it.

 

[skyking]

People will buy and sell these placards. A recent news story spotted a group of 4 workers carpooling together, and returning to the car with their tool bags. They did not have much to say to the reporter and sped off.

 

[MtnMan]

Chop off their fucking leg, then they can get their own handicapped placard.

 

[MtnMan]

Of course around here (especially at grocery stores) there is a group of people easily identified by race that don't bother with the handicapped spots, but park in the fire lane at least 20 - 30 feet closer to the door than the closest handicapped spot.

Hint: It's not the hispanics, caucasians, or orentials.

 

[SSSnail]

handicapped.

Like your logic and spelling.

Sure, handicapped placard abuser.

 

[positivedoppler]

They should start cracking down, but $1760 is an A-Hole move too.

 

[EvilYoda]

I applaud them. Some people will cut every corner they can even if illegal so long as they don't think they'll get caught.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Wow that is ridiculously excessive. I wish corrupt politicians and corrupt business people would get charged with ridiculous fines/sentences instead of silly victimless crimes.

 

[MrColin]

I'm against reserved handicap parking in general.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I'm against reserved handicap parking in general.

I think it's good to have a few spots, but not freaking 40+ spots that some places have. It can be quite excessive. I think there's a law that there has to be a percentage of the spots that are handicap, but that really should be up to the owner of the establishment.

I always laugh when I go to Home Depot, 4 spots per row of parking are handicap. Seriously? Do you really think that many handicapped people are going to be going to buy lumber or hardware at the same time? :awe: There should be like 4 spots at very most.