If you didnt inherit billions, you need to work harder

wirednuts

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/drink-less-more-billionaire-tells-152654355.html

Gina Rinehart, heir to multi-billion dollar mining company

The comments were part of a treatise on what she sees as Australia's decline due to high taxes, high wages and over-regulation. Rinehart said taxes should fall, red tape should be cut, environmental rules relaxed and the minimum wage should be lowered. (It's currently AUS $15.06 an hour or $606 a week, about the same in U.S. dollars).



im not even going to comment yet
 
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dighn

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I don't entirely disagree with the message, but she has no business delivering it.
 

wirednuts

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What if you don't want to work hard and are at peace with not being a billionaire?

There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire," she writes. "If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain. Do something to make more money yourself - spend less time drinking, or smoking and socializing and more time working.

she has the right idea, but if she actually had a clue what a hard days work is like, then do that every day for years without a vacation because you cant afford it... ugh.... this just ticks me off because anyone who works hard just to pay the bills wouldnt ever say anything like this. all she is doing is promoting the trickle down economic ideology that have proven time and again to be bullshit.
 

wirednuts

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Low class cant be washed away even with billions.

funny how just a few quotes and you can make yourself seem like a complete asshole huh? before i read the article, i was like "wow, 16 billion? she must know something. then you read she was given the money... and then you read her ideas.... just wow. very much like a sweet 16 show on mtv actually
 

Red Squirrel

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I would not even know what to do with that much money. I'd probably be dropping rolls of 100's in random mailboxes just because I can. Heck, I'd pay a guy 100 bucks an hour to go do it for me. LOL Could probably make the news and get a chuckle out of it. "Mysterious rolls of $100 appearing in people's mailboxes"

I'd definitely be donating millions to my family even far family I don't even know. Then animal shelters and stuff.
 

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she has the right idea, but if she actually had a clue what a hard days work is like, then do that every day for years without a vacation because you cant afford it... ugh.... this just ticks me off because anyone who works hard just to pay the bills wouldnt ever say anything like this. all she is doing is promoting the trickle down economic ideology that have proven time and again to be bullshit.

The truth is that most people don't work that hard. A lot of people work jobs that they don't like and don't inspire them, but rarely are those jobs hard in a physical or intellectual sense. The ones who can find it in themselves to genuinely work hard at just about anything can make a good living. If they are also able to apply their intelligence to find ways to make increasingly more amounts of money, then they can get rich.

People who are willing to genuinely nose-to-the-grindstone work hard are a rarity. People who are able to work hard AND smart are still rarer. That's why there will always be more poor people than rich people.
 

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"There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire," she writes. "If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain. Do something to make more money yourself - spend less time drinking, or smoking and socializing and more time working."

Hard to argue against that.

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She certainly may work harder than most people. But if you start with billions, you're getting a pretty good head start on everybody else. The person who comes from poverty and works his ass off is statistically unlikely to ever catch the person who inherits billions and does nothing, let alone actually applies themself. If she wanted to prove that she could really be successful solely through hard work, she should have donated billions to charity when she inherited it and started from scratch. As it stands, her statement just sounds like another rich person completely divorced from the reality that her life has been infinitely easier than just about everyone else's.
 

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Minimum wage of over $15, is the cost of living comparable to the US?

If so, it shows just how much the middle and lower classes have been getting screwed in the US for the past 40 years as our wages have remained static adjusted for inflation while the majority of the wealth from growth has gone to the top.

Still waiting for that to trickle down.
 

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she has the right idea, but if she actually had a clue what a hard days work is like, then do that every day for years without a vacation because you cant afford it... ugh.... this just ticks me off because anyone who works hard just to pay the bills wouldnt ever say anything like this. all she is doing is promoting the trickle down economic ideology that have proven time and again to be bullshit.

so in my country you worked for 12 hours got paid for 8
and you earned 700 euro
soooooooo in how many zealions years i will become a millionaire!?!?!?!?
rich people must stop the bullshit work more save money to be rich
that is bullshit
give higher salaries and then we will talk about the spending
 

Train

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Minimum wage of over $15, is the cost of living comparable to the US?

If so, it shows just how much the middle and lower classes have been getting screwed in the US for the past 40 years as our wages have remained static adjusted for inflation while the majority of the wealth from growth has gone to the top.

Still waiting for that to trickle down.

If you use the word "waiting", you are doing it wrong.
 

PokerGuy

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"There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire," she writes. "If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain. Do something to make more money yourself - spend less time drinking, or smoking and socializing and more time working."

She's absolutely right. If you're lucky enough to inherit a bunch of money and can turn that into an even bigger pile of money (like she did), good for you. If you're not, whining and complaining about it won't fix anything, you'll have to work very hard to achieve your goals.
 

preslove

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This fat piece of shit is a big sweaty example for why there is nothing wrong with a heavy estate tax and why Andrew Carnegie and Bill Gates decided to give away most of their fortunes.
 
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SlitheryDee

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Another thing. If you weren't lucky enough to inherit a fortune, what choice do you have? You have to go to work. Ignore everyone who got a leg up in life from their parents. You didn't. That's a fact. There's no changing it. When you become rich, you'll likely do the same thing their parents did for your children. It does you no fucking good to worry about it now.
 

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She certainly may work harder than most people. But if you start with billions, you're getting a pretty good head start on everybody else. The person who comes from poverty and works his ass off is statistically unlikely to ever catch the person who inherits billions and does nothing, let alone actually applies themself. If she wanted to prove that she could really be successful solely through hard work, she should have donated billions to charity when she inherited it and started from scratch. As it stands, her statement just sounds like another rich person completely divorced from the reality that her life has been infinitely easier than just about everyone else's.

I agree with this and that's why I fundamentally disagree with anybody who simply says "Well you're poor because you're not working hard enough or you're not in the right job so you don't deserve a handout." or conversely "You'll be successful if you work hard." Isn't it a nice little fantasy world people live in where doing one thing (working harder) GUARANTEES your success? Imagine where our janitors, waiters, blue collar workers would be. The truth is, there is quite a good degree of luck when it comes to making someone fabulously wealthy. For every 1 person that "made it", there's thousands who worked hard, chased a dream... and failed miserably all due to whatever circumstances affected them at the time. Frankly, there's also no shame in admitting that some people are just more naturally gifted than others in terms of intelligence, charisma, luck or whatever else qualities require one to become successful in business.