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If you didnt inherit billions, you need to work harder

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LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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It doesn't matter. Disregard her, at least as something pertinent to yourself. She inherited, you didn't. Sometimes a seed gets deposited in a particularly opportune place, and flourishes as a result. There is nothing you can do to change that. Forget about it, and tend to your own business. I've never understood the preoccupation people have for what other people have earned. We all know whether they've earned it or not. We all know that we'd do the same if we could for our children. Ultimately it doesn't affect us all that much. Tend to your own business, make your own fortune...or not. You are not guaranteed anything.

What you don't get is that she was guaranteed something, she was guaranteed a inheritance far in excess of what most of the planet will ever realize. She didn't work for it. Had she been born in sub-Sahara Africa she'd just be another malnourished kid who dies at the average age of 30 something. Wow, she won the ovarian lottery.

People like you celebrate this, saying they are super successful and we shouldn't criticize them. Maybe she is, maybe she isn't, but what it comes down to is that she thinks the average person should just sit there slaving away so she can accumulate several more billion. It's a sickness that's pervading this country, that we see the super wealthy as somehow so much better than the average person.

You see it with people saying anybody who criticized Mitt Romney as being "jealous". Yet everybody ignores the tax laws that he used, bought and paid for by wealth through the budding plutocratic process, to accumulate such wealth. Further, nobody looks at the skewed laws in favor of hedge funds such as non-clawback 2/20 and the opaqueness of that industry to knowing what the real return is. It's not on an index so nobody can track it. If they did they'd soon realize that the 2/20 game is a scam, hidden by the wealthy to make more wealthy.

I'm far from a socialist but I know how the game is stacked.

I have done my own work to better my life, so you approaching it from that side is ridiculous.
 

AlienCraft

Lifer
Nov 23, 2002
10,539
0
0
Dynastic transfer of wealth is the last vestige of medieval fuedalism. One cannot simultaneously defend that and claim they are "free market" proponents.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
37,562
9
81
What you don't get is that she was guaranteed something, she was guaranteed a inheritance far in excess of what most of the planet will ever realize. She didn't work for it. Had she been born in sub-Sahara Africa she'd just be another malnourished kid who dies at the average age of 30 something. Wow, she won the ovarian lottery.

People like you celebrate this, saying they are super successful and we shouldn't criticize them. Maybe she is, maybe she isn't, but what it comes down to is that she thinks the average person should just sit there slaving away so she can accumulate several more billion. It's a sickness that's pervading this country, that we see the super wealthy as somehow so much better than the average person.

You see it with people saying anybody who criticized Mitt Romney as being "jealous". Yet everybody ignores the tax laws that he used, bought and paid for by wealth through the budding plutocratic process, to accumulate such wealth. Further, nobody looks at the skewed laws in favor of hedge funds such as non-clawback 2/20 and the opaqueness of that industry to knowing what the real return is. It's not on an index so nobody can track it. If they did they'd soon realize that the 2/20 game is a scam, hidden by the wealthy to make more wealthy.

I'm far from a socialist but I know how the game is stacked.

I have done my own work to better my life, so you approaching it from that side is ridiculous.

Yes she was lucky and didn't have to work hard. None of which means she is wrong. She's just the wrong messenger for the right message. If more people worked hard while also making smart choices, a lot of people would be better off. Instead the vast majority of people work their shitty job, then go home to drink beer and watch sports and complain that the man is keeping them down.
 

moonbogg

Lifer
Jan 8, 2011
10,731
3,440
136
I am growing tired of being discontent. I need to get over this becuase my end is fast apporaching, and you are all in that boat with me. Flowers smell the same to the rich, poor and everyone inbetween. Playing with your 18 month old son on the floor, rolling around, wrestling, hugging and kissing him, brings priceless joy wether or not there is a bentley in one of your 3 driveways.
Waking up early on a saturday morning to help your friend move to a different apartment brings a certain sense of gratification that perhaps not every rich man will know.
Looking up at the stars and realizing that you have the ability to ask why they are there, inspires rich and poor minds alike.
Life's greatest riches are offered freely to anyone willing to accept them as the gifts they are. What a shame it would to overlook the best things in life due to being fixated on certain things that other have that I simply cannot.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
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Yes she was lucky and didn't have to work hard. None of which means she is wrong. She's just the wrong messenger for the right message. If more people worked hard while also making smart choices, a lot of people would be better off. Instead the vast majority of people work their shitty job, then go home to drink beer and watch sports and complain that the man is keeping them down.

she worked hard. she did not inherit a billion dollars. though she also didn't start from scratch. but no way would i say she didn't make it or work hard.

she is right in her message. i do think she is the wrong person to give it. Sitting around complaining that you aren't rich is not going to help. though i think its wrong to say work harder.

I know plenty of people that work hard and are very smart. they aren't rich by any means.

in business i think it takes a combination of dedication, money, luck and intelligence (and i think that is the one least needed).
 

unokitty

Diamond Member
Jan 5, 2012
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... Wow, she won the ovarian lottery.

... I know how the game is stacked. .


Have you just recently figured this out?

Some people are born with above average IQs. Should we resent, or hate, them as well?

Some people are born with above average looks. Should we resent, or hate, them as well?

Some people are born with above average physical capabilities, Should we resent, or hate, them as well?

Do you really think that anyone that has "more" than you is morally deficient?

Uno
 
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Riparian

Senior member
Jul 21, 2011
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Have you just recently figured this out?

Some people are born with above average IQs. Should we resent, or hate, them as well?

Some people are born with above average looks. Should we resent, or hate, them as well?

Some people are born with above average physical capabilities, Should we resent, or hate, them as well?

Do you really think that anyone that has "more" than you is morally deficient?

Uno

Why would you assume that LegendKiller "just recently figured this out?" Nothing in his post would evince that this is anything but old news for him.

The examples you have given are not really comparable to being born into a large inheritance. Being born with certain physical or mental attributes cannot be consistently predicted nor would it be something people would want to control, as having people of superior ability in certain fields is a benefit to humankind in general.

On the other hand, we are discussing the issue of people being born into extreme wealth. This extreme wealth is a controllable situation with estate taxes. Let us not forget that money is directly translatable to political power that allows for the creation of additional laws that are more advantageous to that individual. Thus, while every person who has posted here understands that life isn't fair, it does not mean we, as a society, should not try to create an equal playing ground for everyone to try and succeed in without prior successes allowing for unequal stacking of the rules in one person's favor.
 

unokitty

Diamond Member
Jan 5, 2012
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... it does not mean we, as a society, should not try to create an equal playing ground for everyone ...

"... everyone was finally equal. They weren't only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way.

Nobody was smarter than anybody else.
Nobody was better looking than anybody else.
Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else.

All this equality was due ... to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.

The strong wore weights to make them weaker.
The intelligent wore ear pieces that kept them from taking unfair advantage of their brains.
Even the beautiful sometimes wore masks in situations where their beauty might be too distracting.

It was the golden age of equality."



Would you be offended if I don't share your vision of a glorious equal future?

Uno
 

Train

Lifer
Jun 22, 2000
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Why would you assume that LegendKiller "just recently figured this out?" Nothing in his post would evince that this is anything but old news for him.

The examples you have given are not really comparable to being born into a large inheritance. Being born with certain physical or mental attributes cannot be consistently predicted nor would it be something people would want to control, as having people of superior ability in certain fields is a benefit to humankind in general.

On the other hand, we are discussing the issue of people being born into extreme wealth. This extreme wealth is a controllable situation with estate taxes. Let us not forget that money is directly translatable to political power that allows for the creation of additional laws that are more advantageous to that individual. Thus, while every person who has posted here understands that life isn't fair, it does not mean we, as a society, should not try to create an equal playing ground for everyone to try and succeed in without prior successes allowing for unequal stacking of the rules in one person's favor.

The part I think you are missing, is that her being born into a wealthy situation does not preclude you from also attaining wealth.