If you build?

[Matthiasa]

A month later and I still think about this post. WTF does it mean?

He think the world is a umm well I can visualize what he means... its just stupid.
Something about light needing to bend around the earth around that point enough to encircle it.

In the real world however light does not work like that.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

He think the world is a umm well I can visualize what he means... its just stupid.
Something about light needing to bend around the earth around that point enough to encircle it.

In the real world however light does not work like that.

Yeah, I've gathered as much, but I guess I'm wondering more about "why would he think it works like that?" vs. what is he thinking.

There have to be some major problems with the way he thinks about things to come to that conclusion. What I'd like to hear is the thought process that made it seem that this was a logical conclusion for what happens visually when you approach the north pole.

 

[Killmenow]

A month later and I still think about this post. WTF does it mean?

He was probably thinking that if you were close enough to the north pole (say 100km), and if you traveled following your compass west for a while (say 700km; roughly 2*pie*r in this case), you would end up back where you originally were. Of course, without further elevation, the horizon is only ~5km away. That and since our vision is straight, looking west would really be south-ish west at that point.

Edit:
Never mind, I'm way too late.

 

[Evadman]

Actually I've always wondered, if you go very close to the north pole say, 100 feet from it, and look west or east, do you see everything repeating itself? That would be kinda crazy to see.

What in the world is wrong with your brain?

If anything repeated it would be in the landscape. If you look west, you would see snow. If you look east you would see snow. If you look north, you would see some more snow. If you looked south you would be eaten by a grue because you didn't light your fvcking lamp.

 

[Matthiasa]

Yeah, I've gathered as much, but I guess I'm wondering more about "why would he think it works like that?" vs. what is he thinking.

There have to be some major problems with the way he thinks about things to come to that conclusion. What I'd like to hear is the thought process that made it seem that this was a logical conclusion for what happens visually when you approach the north pole.

Maybe he thinks because at other latitudes you see basically straight if facing west or east and that that would apply near the north pole. Instead of the more curved line it would follow if mapped there.

 

[gaidensensei]

A month later and I still think about this post. WTF does it mean?

I didn't get it at first but now I kinda do. I think RS meant that if you were to go to the "tip" of the north pole, retrace your steps back 100 ft, since the 'world is round', do you see yourself again (picture that) and everything in your straight line of vision.

Hard to make sense of it, but I hope that makes some sense.

 

[iGas]

No it will not, and you can't built a house on true magnetic north because it is constantly moving.

 

[Evadman]

I didn't get it at first but now I kinda do. I think RS meant that if you were to go to the "tip" of the north pole, retrace your steps back 100 ft, since the 'world is round', do you see yourself again (picture that) and everything in your straight line of vision.

Hard to make sense of it, but I hope that makes some sense.

You mean would you "see all the way around the world" and see your own back about 100' in front of you? Wow.

Note to self: People are stupid.

 

[gaidensensei]

Yeah, basically what he meant was something like this (to my interpretation). This picture should explain it better.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

I'd better stop asking for explanations. This is getting much worse and scarier.

Maybe some day we can all get close enough to a super massive / dense object with enough gravitational pull to wrap beams of light around it. We can reminisce about this thread as our bodies are torn apart at the molecular level.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Yeah, basically what he meant was something like this (to my interpretation). This picture should explain it better.

Yeah, I know what he thought... and it's totally ridiculous. What I wanted to know is why he thought this made any sort of sense at all. Who failed this guy when he was growing up that he thinks that this could happen?

I've seen quite a few threads where RS comes up with some sort of conclusion that make no sense on the most basic level. There must be some set of totally wrong assumptions about how the world works to come up with these sort of explanations.

 

[Matthiasa]

Yeah, basically what he meant was something like this (to my interpretation). This picture should explain it better.

Thats what I said.

Yeah, I know what he thought... and it's totally ridiculous. What I wanted to know is why he thought this made any sort of sense at all. Who failed this guy when he was growing up that he thinks that this could happen?

I've seen quite a few threads where RS comes up with some sort of conclusion that make no sense on the most basic level. There must be some set of totally wrong assumptions about how the world works to come up with these sort of explanations.

Because closer to the equator it does basically work like that... well probably what he was thinking anyways.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Killmenow, we don't need a new diagram. It's obviously wrong with the circle path

 

[Killmenow]

Yeah, basically what he meant was something like this (to my interpretation). This picture should explain it better.

You do realize that the only reason why he is returning to his original point would be because he is traveling in a circle right? West on the compass would be consistently perpendicular to north, with the distance being the radius. Even though he would be traveling "west" the whole time, he would be constantly readjusting his trajectory to stay true to his compass. His vision on the other hand would be more like:

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Thats what I said.

Because closer to the equator it does basically work like that... well probably what he was thinking anyways.

The thought that this is how it works (like if you had a really good set of binoculars at the equator, you could see the back of your head) is probably the first part where he went wrong. To say that "it does basically work like that" at the equator is also ridiculous.

 

[Killmenow]

Killmenow, we don't need a new diagram. It's obviously wrong with the circle path

Too late lol. I know it's wrong, was just originally trying to answer your question as to WTF he was thinking/saying.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Too late lol. I know it's wrong, was just originally trying to answer your question as to WTF he was thinking/saying.

Sorry, I couldn't resist the chance to do a fusetalk style timewarp post :awe:

 

[Matthiasa]

The thought that this is how it works (like if you had a really good set of binoculars at the equator, you could see the back of your head) is probably the first part where he went wrong. To say that "it does basically work like that" at the equator is also ridiculous.

You missed the point, we know it doesn't work like that, but as the world seems "flat" due to how close we are to the surface and its size. If he extrapolated that to poles you get you seeing yourself.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

You missed the point, we know it doesn't work like that, but as the world seems "flat" due to how close we are to the surface and its size. If he extrapolated that to poles you get you seeing yourself.

I'm not so confident that everyone in this thread would be able to figure out that there was something seriously flawed with that statement. I wasn't sure if you were saying that it seemed reasonable or not at the equator.

I'd like to think that everyone on this forum doesn't think about the world as if it's flat, but there's at least one person who does, so I thought you might be another

 

[Matthiasa]

I'm not so confident that everyone in this thread would be able to figure out that there was something seriously flawed with that statement. I wasn't sure if you were saying that it seemed reasonable or not at the equator.

I'd like to think that everyone on this forum doesn't think about the world as if it's flat, but there's at least one person who does, so I thought you might be another

Well it is quite nearly visibly flat unless you get high up or are in a completely flat wide open area.

Besides thinking the world was flat wouldn't work well for engineering.
Though it would simply stuff.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

I wonder if RedSquirrel is going to come back to this thread...

(When I saw his post thinking that meat was shipped in battery powered mini-refrigerators is what made me think of this thread again)

 

[Red Squirrel]

LMAO as if people think I was serious. LMAO fail.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

LMAO as if people think I was serious. LMAO fail.

I don't know... you say enough stupid stuff on a regular basis...

 

[Evadman]

LMAO as if people think I was serious. LMAO fail.

404 truth not found

 

[zinfamous]

Yeah, I've gathered as much, but I guess I'm wondering more about "why would he think it works like that?" vs. what is he thinking.

There have to be some major problems with the way he thinks about things to come to that conclusion. What I'd like to hear is the thought process that made it seem that this was a logical conclusion for what happens visually when you approach the north pole.

I have reached this conclusion after the combined WTF of many of his posts.