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JackBurton

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Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
When it comes to REALLY high end gear I can agree with you here. Once you get to a certain price point its all REALLY good. Which always makes me wonder why a company like Goldmund would make 300k speakers. I mean come on you really gonna make me believe they are 300k better in sound? I think they are sexy looking if you like modern, of course I am sure some will say they are hideous.

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Holy crap man, those things are god awful looking. Now THIS is gorgeousness. And it's cheaper. ;) The EMs would be me dream speakers, but I don't have the budget nor the room. But I guess if I had the budget, I'd have the room. :)

Now I don't know how the hell we went from a $999 AVR to $200K+ speakers, but let's get back to the real world. As for the SC-05 or 07 AVRs, they are great receivers. Are there equally good AVRs out there in the same price range? Sure. I just created this thread to inform people of the great deal I saw. And after looking around a little more, people are reporting that the 05 is approaching the $700 mark. Now that is just a crazy deal.

Anyway, for anyone in the market for an excellent AVR at a great price, keep this one in mind. It really is an AWESOME receiver.

 
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spidey07

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Does it do all of the new surround formats and have full 7.1 inputs and outputs? I don't see them on the picture.
 
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JackBurton

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: spidey07
Does it do all of the new surround formats and have full 7.1 inputs and outputs? I don't see them on the picture.
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The Pioneers?

Even the $600 MSRP 1018 does that.

They're not color coded, they're on the right side.

Better pictures on the Pioneer site
http://www.pioneerelectronics....eceivers/ci.SC-05.Kuro
http://www.pioneerelectronics....eceivers/ci.SC-07.Kuro
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Yep, full 7.1 with all the advanced audio codecs supported if you are planning to bit stream your Blu-ray player.
 
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s44

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I can't wait for the day when all AVRs have ICEpower (or equivalent) amps, even at $700 *list* price.

Anyway, nice deals. Maybe you should post them to the Hot Deals section ;)
 
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YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
SC-07 for $899.00. People have said he is an authorized dealer so you get the warranty etc.


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Where's the info on that being from an authorized dealer?
 
WaTaGuMp

WaTaGuMp

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
SC-07 for $899.00. People have said he is an authorized dealer so you get the warranty etc.


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Where's the info on that being from an authorized dealer?
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Someone contacted him via email and the guy said he is, I got this info from a thread over at AVS forums.


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YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
SC-07 for $899.00. People have said he is an authorized dealer so you get the warranty etc.


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Where's the info on that being from an authorized dealer?
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Someone contacted him via email and the guy said he is, I got this info from a thread over at AVS forums.


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A WI guy, huh? :)

Well $699/$899 sounds like quite a hot deal.
 
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WaTaGuMp

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
SC-07 for $899.00. People have said he is an authorized dealer so you get the warranty etc.


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Where's the info on that being from an authorized dealer?
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Someone contacted him via email and the guy said he is, I got this info from a thread over at AVS forums.


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A WI guy, huh? :)

Well $699/$899 sounds like quite a hot deal.
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Oh your area, go check him out see if hes legit. ;)
 
YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
SC-07 for $899.00. People have said he is an authorized dealer so you get the warranty etc.


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Where's the info on that being from an authorized dealer?
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Someone contacted him via email and the guy said he is, I got this info from a thread over at AVS forums.


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A WI guy, huh? :)

Well $699/$899 sounds like quite a hot deal.
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Oh your area, go check him out see if hes legit. ;)
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Well I do need a new receiver / pre-pro... and I sort of do need to spend $349 or more on a purchase in the next few weeks to try to get my $200 from Sony/Chase (crosses fingers)

I think I'd rather do a confirmation by calling the dealer from their website and asking about Rand that way...

I don't think 3 hours each way is the way to check the legitimacy :)

Denon 2309ci/2809ci vs. Pioneer SC-05/SC-07 keeping in mind that I already have an amp... I don't know.
 
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spidey07

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yoyo - I've always been disappointed in Denon from a pre-amp/pro perspective and I've owned a few mainly from the 38 series and the amp section is lack luster. For what it's worth. Listen before you buy, I give the edge to the Elite. At this price I'm very, very tempted to pick one up.
 
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I'm wondering (among other things) how Pioneer's MCACC compares with Audyssey. Anybody know of a good comparison?

EDIT: I should stop researching this. I'm going to wait on buying a new pre-pro since mine works fine now, I don't know where I'm going to be moving once I get a "real" job, and my main concern for getting one doesn't make sense yet (no blu-ray collection yet).
 
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s44

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The more advanced MCACC in these Elite models looks more comparable to Audyssey -- the Pioneers do have phase correction and what they call standing wave control, and may be a bit more tweakable than Audyssey's choice of two target response curves. Still, given that this is the same stuff that's on the 1018 and how relatively non-transparent the specs are, I'd be surprised if it was more refined than Audyssey MultEQ XT, particularly with the Dynamic EQ feature.

Except for ICEpower, the price drop IMO just puts these things in the same range as the Denon and Onkyo models with which they're competing anyway.
 
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JackBurton

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If anyone does get an Elite AVR, please post your impressions, especially if you get the SC-07. I'd be interested to see what you think of it. As spidey mentioned, Denon AVRs sound different from the Elites and most would give the nod to the Elites which they describe as having a fuller/warmer sound to it. But as mentioned before, try before you buy. It would be better if you could try it in the store, but also have the option to return it if you're not 100% satisfied with how it sounds with your own equipment and in your home environment. I think you'll be pretty happy with what you hear when you get it home though. :) Like I said, one of the main things I REALLY like about the Elites receivers is the HDMI connections are untouched. No processing is done by the receiver. It just passes the signal right on through to your display. So your source and display are going to be responsible for how good or bad the image looks. The amp isn't too shabby either. ;)
 
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JackBurton

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Originally posted by: s44
I can't wait for the day when all AVRs have ICEpower (or equivalent) amps, even at $700 *list* price.

Anyway, nice deals. Maybe you should post them to the Hot Deals section ;)
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Well, I thought about posting it in hot deals, but I decided to post it here where the more serious A/V crowd hangs out. I figured the people here may appreciate it more than the average guy.
 
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spidey07

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What's this whole "ICEpower" thing? How does it deal with 4 or 6 ohm speakers with difficult impedance curves?
 
Dr. Detroit

Dr. Detroit

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Just ordered an SC-05 from the VideoGon link.
Home Media Gallery ability is what pushed me over the top to buy this unit.

Shipping is $59.99 for me. Should be here Monday. Real pleasant people to talk to.

SC07 for what it adds over the SC05 was not enough for me to spend an extra $210.
10W Extra per channel (140w vs. 130w)
1 Extra HDMI out
1 Extra component out
1 Extra S-Video in
1-Extra Digiatl Audio in


*EDIT - Recieved my UPS tracking number today. Will be here Monday!

48lb shipping weight :D



 
WaTaGuMp

WaTaGuMp

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Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Just ordered an SC-05 from the VideoGon link.
Home Media Gallery ability is what pushed me over the top to buy this unit.

Shipping is $59.99 for me. Should be here Monday. Real pleasant people to talk to.

SC07 for what it adds over the SC05 was not enough for me to spend an extra $210.
10W Extra per channel (140w vs. 130w)
1 Extra HDMI out
1 Extra component out
1 Extra S-Video in
1-Extra Digiatl Audio in
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Do I get commission for finding that super cheap price? ;)
 
YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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spidey07

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: spidey07
What's this whole "ICEpower" thing? How does it deal with 4 or 6 ohm speakers with difficult impedance curves?
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UltimateAV did an SC-05 review with M&K speakers that dip into 3-ohms...
http://ultimateavmag.com/avrec...ite_sc-05_av_receiver/
http://ultimateavmag.com/speakersystems/46/index6.html

ICEpower is a technology developed by B&O (although it's supposedly better than their self-raising Plasma technology ;) )
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More googling makes me wary of ICEpower with real world speakers, but at this price point it's a pretty good deal.

Keep in mind I've been wanting a QUALITY dedicated pre-pro at a good value. I'm stuck right in the middle price point wise. 1500 for a pre-pro or 1400 for an AVR (and all the video goodies) and able to use the amp for other duties.
 
EvilYoda

EvilYoda

Lifer
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: spidey07
What's this whole "ICEpower" thing? How does it deal with 4 or 6 ohm speakers with difficult impedance curves?
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UltimateAV did an SC-05 review with M&K speakers that dip into 3-ohms...
http://ultimateavmag.com/avrec...ite_sc-05_av_receiver/
http://ultimateavmag.com/speakersystems/46/index6.html

ICEpower is a technology developed by B&O (although it's supposedly better than their self-raising Plasma technology ;) )
Click to expand...

More googling makes me wary of ICEpower with real world speakers, but at this price point it's a pretty good deal.

Keep in mind I've been wanting a QUALITY dedicated pre-pro at a good value. I'm stuck right in the middle price point wise. 1500 for a pre-pro or 1400 for an AVR (and all the video goodies) and able to use the amp for other duties.
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I wouldn't worry too much about ICEpower, spidey, it's been around for a while now and it's spread out farther than you think. Rotel, B&O, B&W, Jeff Rowland, KEF, Martin Logan...they all have products that use ICEpower.

If you're around the DIY sites (or if you hunt around eBay), you can find complete modules that are ready to go for testing at very affordable prices. I'd dig around B&O's website for the white papers though, as the model numbers are all very similar but could have big sonic differences.

I've been toying with the idea of buying a class-D or ICEpower amp just to see what they're like. I have a straight-up chipamp, a RevC that uses the LM3886 but can't really be called a chipamp...they'd be a fun comparison.
 
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s44

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Because it runs so much cooler, getting an ICEpower amp with ridiculous wattage levels doesn't require massively scaling up heatsinks, etc -- just a bigger PSU and a slightly more expensive ICE module from B&O (IIRC they only helped bring the tech to market -- it was some Danish university guy who developed it.)

So, you get price lists like this. :D

edit: of course, with the Pioneer AVRs you can't (I think) just swap out modules as you can with separate D-Sonic or Wyred4Sound amps.
 
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