If you accidentally get a girl pregnant

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
What can a man do? Move to another country. If you really want the obligation, take the child with you.

Wrong, you can't do that either. Not without the consent of the mother.

 

[j00fek]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Alphathree33
If so, what can the man do in response?

Bend over and take it in the ass financially for the next 18 years.

thats about it or get the abortion

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Chryso
What kind of accident was it? Were you walking down the street, minding your own business when you tripped and your pen1s accidentally got stuck in her and went off?

why does that scenario strike me as hilarious? :laugh:

 

[Alphathree33]

Originally posted by: Chryso
What kind of accident was it? Were you walking down the street, minding your own business when you tripped and your pen1s accidentally got stuck in her and went off?

If you actually read the post, wise guy, you'd see that:

1) I gave examples of how this could happen. They're not that hard to comprehend.
2) I specifically asked that this thread not be a discussion about morals.
3) I specifically stated that this question is hypothetical, so "YOU" as in "ME" is not a relevant topic here.

 

[GasX]

It is a simple lesson. If you aren't ready for the committment, then you best be wrappin that rascal up nice and tight.

 

[Alphathree33]

Originally posted by: Mwilding
It is a simple lesson. If you aren't ready for the committment, then you best be wrappin that rascal up nice and tight.

I'm NOT looking for the MORAL LESSON here. I was curious about the LEGAL OBLIGATIONS.

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: SSSnail
What can a man do? Move to another country. If you really want the obligation, take the child with you.

Wrong, you can't do that either. Not without the consent of the mother.

Who said anything about consent?

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: Alphathree33

Originally posted by: Chryso
What kind of accident was it? Were you walking down the street, minding your own business when you tripped and your pen1s accidentally got stuck in her and went off?

If you actually read the post, wise guy, you'd see that:

1) I gave examples of how this could happen. They're not that hard to comprehend.
2) I specifically asked that this thread not be a discussion about morals.
3) I specifically stated that this question is hypothetical, so "YOU" as in "ME" is not a relevant topic here.

1) Never let the facts get in the way of comedy.
2) See 1

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: NuAlphaMan
If she pursues it, it's call garnishment. If you don't pay, in some states, they will suspend your license. So, like K1052, bend over and take it for the next 18yrs.

But if I guy knowingly doesn't support his child :thumbsdown:, he's scum and should get bent over!!!!!

i think every state allows suspension of licenses, except maybe LA. pretty much everyone has adopted the uniform child support enforcement act, or whatever it's called.

the trick in texas is to get the court order a week before hunting season.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Alphathree33

Originally posted by: Mwilding
It is a simple lesson. If you aren't ready for the committment, then you best be wrappin that rascal up nice and tight.

I'm NOT looking for the MORAL LESSON here. I was curious about the LEGAL OBLIGATIONS.

is this still a "hypothetical situation"?

cutting to the chase - if you get a girl pregnant you are responsible for that child. you will be paying child support.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Alphathree33

Originally posted by: Mwilding
It is a simple lesson. If you aren't ready for the committment, then you best be wrappin that rascal up nice and tight.

I'm NOT looking for the MORAL LESSON here. I was curious about the LEGAL OBLIGATIONS.

is this still a "hypothetical situation"?

About as hypothetical as the "I have this friend..." disclaimer.

 

[RKS]

lol, just lol.

 

[Alphathree33]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Alphathree33

Originally posted by: Mwilding
It is a simple lesson. If you aren't ready for the committment, then you best be wrappin that rascal up nice and tight.

I'm NOT looking for the MORAL LESSON here. I was curious about the LEGAL OBLIGATIONS.

is this still a "hypothetical situation"?

Yes it is. My girlfriend and I are happily not pregnant. And if she was, I'd raise the kid with her. =)

I was getting worked up because ATOT always gets way off track. I try to ask a specific question and people hijack the thread in every which direction.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Man accidentally gets girl pregnant. Man wants abortion. Woman does not. They take it to court. Who wins? Why?
Reverse situation. Man wants the child, woman does not. Take it to court. Who wins?

First situation, woman wins. You can't force someone to have surgery.
Second situation, woman wins. You can't force someone to carry a baby for nine months.

As long as the child is in the woman, we have no choice but to accept her decision. I doubt there are any men that would vote to give courts dominion over their bodies.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
yes, child support for 18 years


good luck on that

Actually, it is up to 23 years if the kiddo goes directly into college and is still on one of the parents insurance policies in Missouri.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Man accidentally gets girl pregnant. Man wants abortion. Woman does not. They take it to court. Who wins? Why?
Reverse situation. Man wants the child, woman does not. Take it to court. Who wins?

IIRC, the woman gets the final say in all cases provided she is competent.

No say. All pay.

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: Legendary

Originally posted by: Alphathree33

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Man accidentally gets girl pregnant. Man wants abortion. Woman does not. They take it to court. Who wins? Why?

Yeah, I was wondering that too.

In virtually every state, it's the woman's right to choose what happens to the baby. If she decides to have it, say bye-bye to 18 years of CHSUP wage garnish.

Or you could run, but that's just dishonorable.

Some states you have to pay for college as well.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: Alphathree33
Disclaimer: This is completely hypothetical. I'm genuinely curious because I don't know the answer. However, I know there are a bunch of 12-year-olds who will post two-word flames. I wish the mods would delete these posts.

So, yeah. Man has sex with woman. Woman gets pregnant (e.g. condom breaks, lies about birth control, pull out too late, etc.).

Baby undeniably belongs to man (e.g. man doesn't deny it, DNA shows it, etc.)

Man decides he wants nothing to do with woman and never speaks to her again.

Is woman now entitled to sue man/ask for child support/etc.? If so, what can the man do in response?

Please don't turn this into a thread about MORALS. It's obvious that guys who do this are pretty scummy. I'm just curious about how the law handles it.

of course

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Alphathree33
Disclaimer: This is completely hypothetical. I'm genuinely curious because I don't know the answer. However, I know there are a bunch of 12-year-olds who will post two-word flames. I wish the mods would delete these posts.

So, yeah. Man has sex with woman. Woman gets pregnant (e.g. condom breaks, lies about birth control, pull out too late, etc.).

Baby undeniably belongs to man (e.g. man doesn't deny it, DNA shows it, etc.)

Man decides he wants nothing to do with woman and never speaks to her again.

Is woman now entitled to sue man/ask for child support/etc.? If so, what can the man do in response?

Please don't turn this into a thread about MORALS. It's obvious that guys who do this are pretty scummy. I'm just curious about how the law handles it.

One word: Responsibility

Don't wanna be a daddy, don't stick the babymaker where that might happen.

I'll take door #2, Monty.

QFMFT

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Man accidentally gets girl pregnant. Man wants abortion. Woman does not. They take it to court. Who wins? Why?
Reverse situation. Man wants the child, woman does not. Take it to court. Who wins?

Men have no rights period. It's the woman's body and she decides whether or not to carry the baby. It also doesn't matter if you're married or not.

 

[eLiTeGoodGuy]

Now lets ask 1 more question... As this used to happen to me... I would wake up in the middle of the night with my GF at the time (soon to be wife, soon to be ex wife, lol) right on top of me goin to town. Granted it was a good thing to wake up to, who would be resposible as I did not consent to the act?

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Man accidentally gets girl pregnant. Man wants abortion. Woman does not. They take it to court. Who wins? Why?
Reverse situation. Man wants the child, woman does not. Take it to court. Who wins?

Men have no rights period. It's the woman's body and she decides whether or not to carry the baby. It also doesn't matter if you're married or not.

I feel if they can force a man to pay for a child for 18 years, they can force a woman not to abort a child or at least give her a major fine if she does.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Alphathree33

Originally posted by: Mwilding
It is a simple lesson. If you aren't ready for the committment, then you best be wrappin that rascal up nice and tight.

I'm NOT looking for the MORAL LESSON here. I was curious about the LEGAL OBLIGATIONS.

I was not being moralistic at all. Parental obligation os both a moral AND legal concept.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Man accidentally gets girl pregnant. Man wants abortion. Woman does not. They take it to court. Who wins? Why?
Reverse situation. Man wants the child, woman does not. Take it to court. Who wins?

when men can have babies we'll talk.

So if the woman wants an abortion but the man is willing to raise the child and assume all responsibility it's OK that the woman can abort the child? I suppose that means your previous statement of "Don't wanna be a daddy, don't stick the babymaker where that might happen." doesn't have equal responsibility on the woman's side of "Don't wanna be a mommy, don't let a guy into your babymaker where it might happen".

Now, yes, it's different in cases of rape and such, but if the sex was consentual, why should the woman be allowed to abort the child if the man is willing to take all parental responsibilities?

ZV

 

[giantpinkbunnyhead]

Originally posted by: eLiTeGoodGuy
Now lets ask 1 more question... As this used to happen to me... I would wake up in the middle of the night with my GF at the time (soon to be wife, soon to be ex wife, lol) right on top of me goin to town. Granted it was a good thing to wake up to, who would be resposible as I did not consent to the act?

You would still be responsible somehow, somewhere. No one would accept the truth if the woman decided to lie about it and say you DID consent.