If there was an android phone with a cooling fan would you buy it?

[A5]

And yeah, a fan does not have zero power draw, so it is going to hit the battery.

It is also still a ridiculous idea that only OP wants. So many downsides.

 

[dawheat]

you do know that games on the iphone have much better visuals enabled than on android?
Even with a higher resolution games still look much crappier on android.
If you want to understand, the iphone is like playing a PC game on ultra settings but with slightly lower resolution while android (esp the samsung exynos) is like playing on lowest possible settings with a slightly higher resolution.

http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...6-in-game-performance-better-looking-graphics

So you're moving your goal posts? Your post was about putting a fan on an Android phone so it throttles less. If you'd like to start talking about textures and such (and I'm sure you have many ideas as an engineer), then try to do so. If you'd like to just come out and proclaim your Apple love, then just do it.

Even in your link, I'm not seeing much difference in those screenshots. Put it in a 5" form factor and I'm not sure anyone will notice.

 

[ControlD]

I'm not sure the OP realizes that people buy phones to be more than portable gaming devices.

That being said, here is an idea. Go buy an iPhone. Seriously. If all you care about is mobile gaming and you believe the iPhone is the only platform to provide you the performance you demand, what is the holdup? Just go buy one and be done with it. You yourself said only stupid and/or poor people buy Android phones. You are an engineer so I have to assume you are not poor. That only leaves one other explanation ...

 

[zaza]

So you're moving your goal posts? Your post was about putting a fan on an Android phone so it throttles less. If you'd like to start talking about textures and such (and I'm sure you have many ideas as an engineer), then try to do so. If you'd like to just come out and proclaim your Apple love, then just do it.

Even in your link, I'm not seeing much difference in those screenshots. Put it in a 5" form factor and I'm not sure anyone will notice.

I don't love any brand and I'm not biased. Android and Iphones each have their own advantages and disatvantages. If you want openness, customization, big screens, etc then buy an android. If you want performance, responsiveness, and gaming then buy an iphone.

 

[Dice144]

No, I do not want even fans on my desktop anymore. It is so 2010.

 

[sweenish]

Aren't you the one who keeps leaving troll posts on my threads?
Nice to see you again.

Aren't you the one who keeps double posting topics, replaced system *.dll's in hopes of game compatibility, otherwise has very little actual knowledge in spite of the topics you create (at least when it comes to those specific subjects), and claimed that McDonald's tastes better than a well-prepared steak?

Doesn't change the fact that is a repeat topic. That alone should have had this topic closed.

 

[Zodiark1593]

No, I do not want even fans on my desktop anymore. It is so 2010.

Though fanless is so 1980s.

Active cooling would theoretically work better in a dedicated handheld games console, though as the Shield has shown us, very few bought it. Probably the only mobile place for active cooling would be gaming-centric tablets.

 

[stormkroe]

Ok let's compromise. The fan is cartridge-like, near the edge (for easy replacement), and only kicks in when plugged into the wall and 'console mode' is enabled. Clocks ramp up, more cores come online, etc. Er something. ..

 

[Tsavo]

I'm not going to be happy until Noctua makes a line of sinks and fans for smart phones.

 

[Zodiark1593]

Ok let's compromise. The fan is cartridge-like, near the edge (for easy replacement), and only kicks in when plugged into the wall and 'console mode' is enabled. Clocks ramp up, more cores come online, etc. Er something. ..

How about having exposed (not underneath that black cap) SOC dies come into contact with an aluminum heatspreader that is actually the body of the phone itself.

 

[Amol S.]

If the cooling fan was hidden inside like this:

(this was an old apple patent for internal phone cooling that never made it into real iphones)
Hypothetical:
The company who made this actively cooled phone took care not to tell anyone there was a fan inside. They knew people would freak out, as in "lololol a fan inside a phone? For what? Phones don't get hot anyway."
This is because most people don't even know that phones throttle (and some phones much more than others). Most people just use their phone for calling, messaging, browsing the net, taking selfies, etc. The only place where heat throttling would show is in graphically intensive games, and again most people won't know cause most play casual 2D games, and the ones who do play graphically intensive games do so on iphones which don't throttle because of how well the games are optimized, and the few people who would play graphically intensive games on android don't care if they throttle and become unplayable cause they don't see mobile as a real gaming platform to begin with.
So this company that released this phone starts getting flak once people realize there's this extra hardware inside that everyone hates for no particular reason, the phone fails miserably in sales despite being the only android phone in the market that doesn't exhibit heat throttling, and from then on every phone manufacturer vows never to do this kind of thing again.
The End.

The moment you put that phone in your pocket, there will be no air intake into the phone, and the phone would over heat. You know the rest of what would follow after that. That's, why phones are made, such that they do not need fans. Also, fans are noisy, and on top of that, they would use more battery power.

 

[Zodiark1593]

The moment you put that phone in your pocket, there will be no air intake into the phone, and the phone would over heat. You know the rest of what would follow after that. That's, why phones are made, such that they do not need fans. Also, fans are noisy, and on top of that, they would use more battery power.

Some flawed logic here. If the phone is in your pocket, odds are you aren't gaming on it anyway, or doing anything demanding for that matter, thus not enough heat being produced to even need to spin up the fan in your pocket, unless however you're doing some Folding@UrPocket.

I too disagree with sticking fans on phones, but well-thought arguments are most welcome. ()

 

[leilah]

no, I won't buy it..the idea is good but doesn't sound right.

 

[JimmiG]

The moment you put that phone in your pocket, there will be no air intake into the phone, and the phone would over heat. You know the rest of what would follow after that. That's, why phones are made, such that they do not need fans. Also, fans are noisy, and on top of that, they would use more battery power.

In fact, phones are completely sealed and lack cooling vents or slots for the same reason. Those would eventually get clogged with debris from your pockets/skin and then a phone designed with those vents in mind would overheat.

A fan might make some sense for some kind of niche high-end gaming tablet, but I doubt there's much of a market for them. In a phone with a SoC that only uses a watt or two of power, a fan would just be silly. You could pick up a Surface Pro if you absolutely need a fan.

 

[Amol S.]

if you really want to see a powerful gadget, then experiment by putting a Intel xenon CPU into a workstation motherboard and see what happens.

 

[Raduque]

This is because Apple puts bigger GPUs on their SoCs than Qualcomm and Samsung do.

Not necessarily. High-end Adreno and Mali GPUs are just as capable, but Android phones are like PCs: Game devs have to optimize performance for phones with less capable GPUs.

iPhones are more like consoles. There's really only one dev target, and the newest one runs games the fastest - and if you target the newest one, your game will run slower on the older GPUs.

Some flawed logic here. If the phone is in your pocket, odds are you aren't gaming on it anyway, or doing anything demanding for that matter, thus not enough heat being produced to even need to spin up the fan in your pocket, unless however you're doing some Folding@UrPocket.

I too disagree with sticking fans on phones, but well-thought arguments are most welcome. ()

Obviously, you've never been in a marginal signal area or had a rogue process freak out - I've had several phones turn into miniature suns in my pocket due to both issues.

BTW, I should say on-topic: Phone with a fan in it, you couldn't pay me enough to use it every day. Tiny fans have to spin very very fast to move any sort of air. Fast spinning tiny fans make a very loud, very high-pitched noise.

It would sound like a Cheerson CX-10 quadrotor every time the fan spun up.

 

[Red Squirrel]

On similar note, when it comes to a point that phone cpus need to be made so powerful that they need a fan, perhaps it's time to stop making the OS so bloated. Phones have rather simple purposes unlike PCs and should not even need that powerful of a cpu.

Also as a non engineer who has worked with basic electrical/electronic stuff and knows how to use a multimeter, I can guarantee you the fan will affect the battery.

 

[ControlD]

On similar note, when it comes to a point that phone cpus need to be made so powerful that they need a fan, perhaps it's time to stop making the OS so bloated. Phones have rather simple purposes unlike PCs and should not even need that powerful of a cpu.

Also as a non engineer who has worked with basic electrical/electronic stuff and knows how to use a multimeter, I can guarantee you the fan will affect the battery.

That might have been the case with your old flip phone but it is certainly not true now.