If the universe is actually infinite

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: lxskllr
I don't know. I'm not equipped to speculate on the macro scale. I can't get around the notion of a expanding universe. The way I see it is the universe is expanding into something, even if that something is nothing. But apparently I'm wrong :^D

Hint - the universe itself is expanding thus this statement is currently regarded as wrong.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
what would jesus say?

wwtdd?

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: nick1985
then this exact thread exists somewhere else.


discuss

Then this is a repost and requires locking

Someone beat you to the punch

damn, i read the title and then went into instant nef mode.


Ok I change my nef and raise you that the universe as we know it is actually the inside the pocket of a 12billion year old alien from another dimension.

Or the remains of the "big Flush" a pocket universe used to contain noxious waste.

 

[venkman]

Originally posted by: nick1985
then this exact thread exists somewhere else.


discuss

so, um, repost?

edit: damn, beaten to the punch repeatedly.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: nick1985
then this exact thread exists somewhere else.


discuss

If you follow that logic, you could put a bunch of computer components in your dryer on spin cycle and eventually you would have a whole computer. If you follow it back further, you could put a bunch of rocks and animals in your dryer and you would eventually have an ultimate gaming rig from 20 years in the future....or a room sized computer from back in the 60's.

I dont follow that logic. Just something fun to think about

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: JohnCU
that's not how it works

That's how it works. Further, if infinite hillbillies driving infinite Ford trucks shot an infinite number of stop signs with an infinite number of shotgun shells, the entire history of the human race and all literary works would be transcribed in Braille.

I don't see how this would have to be the case.
Numbers are infinite, but none of them repeats.

 

[mattpegher]

The hard thing to fathom is according to current space-time theory, Time may be finite. That time actually began at the big bang and if the universe ceases to expand and contracts back to the big crush, time will stop.

Recently rereading steven hawkins (reprint with some new expansions) "A breif History of Time", very interesting and easier the second time round.

 

[DrPizza]

Irrational numbers have an infinite number of digits in their decimal expansion. However, they are non-repeating.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
Interesting story related to the topic:

The Last Question


Also, have you updated your cancer thread?

I love that story. Really makes you think.

 

[JohnCU]

lol @ stinky pinky

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: Fritzo
There's a few ideas of multi-verses out there----and one of these may be able to be proven one day because of some cool things they're doing in astrophysics these days:

1- Multiverse- our univerise is a bubble floating around with an infinite number of other universes. When one of these bubbles collides with another, it makes another universe whith it's own set of physics. Some universes don't have laws that allow matter to form, some may not have a speed limit, some may be all energy, some may be made out of one big lump of an element---the possibilities are endless.

2- Mirrorverse- Our universe may be dumbell shaped, meaning there's a whole 2nd universe that's jutting away from us in the other direction. We will never be able to observce this universe because it's light and energy are movin away from us.

Theres a few others out there too. Mind blowing stuff.

How do they prove that stuff?

This is some of the research that the LHC will be able to do. They can simulate the Big Bang, and from that infer information about the creation of the universe.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: Fritzo
There's a few ideas of multi-verses out there----and one of these may be able to be proven one day because of some cool things they're doing in astrophysics these days:

1- Multiverse- our univerise is a bubble floating around with an infinite number of other universes. When one of these bubbles collides with another, it makes another universe whith it's own set of physics. Some universes don't have laws that allow matter to form, some may not have a speed limit, some may be all energy, some may be made out of one big lump of an element---the possibilities are endless.

2- Mirrorverse- Our universe may be dumbell shaped, meaning there's a whole 2nd universe that's jutting away from us in the other direction. We will never be able to observce this universe because it's light and energy are movin away from us.

Theres a few others out there too. Mind blowing stuff.

How do they prove that stuff?

This is some of the research that the LHC will be able to do. They can simulate the Big Bang, and from that infer information about the creation of the universe.

I don't see how. You aren't going to be able to get anywhere close to examining things on the order of the Planck Length. Although we'll be a tiny fraction of a second from the Big Bang, the furthest we will be able to go back still has the current laws of physics embedded in space-time.

What the LHC will be good for is determining if there is a Higgs boson, and quite possibly if we live in a holographic universe. Of course there are always the surprises and that's what people really live for.

The question I wonder about is at what point the basics become incomprehensible. I doubt that we are able to understand everything. It would really piss people off if understanding quantum gravity required an intelligence greater than we have.

 

[mjrpes3]

Because this thread exists an infinite number of times, a moment from now an infinite number of these threads will be locked, while only an infinite number of these threads will remain open. A moment after that, for the remaining open threads, an infinite will remain open, while an infinite will be locked. Rinse, repeat. Suck on that Cantor.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: Fritzo
There's a few ideas of multi-verses out there----and one of these may be able to be proven one day because of some cool things they're doing in astrophysics these days:

1- Multiverse- our univerise is a bubble floating around with an infinite number of other universes. When one of these bubbles collides with another, it makes another universe whith it's own set of physics. Some universes don't have laws that allow matter to form, some may not have a speed limit, some may be all energy, some may be made out of one big lump of an element---the possibilities are endless.

2- Mirrorverse- Our universe may be dumbell shaped, meaning there's a whole 2nd universe that's jutting away from us in the other direction. We will never be able to observce this universe because it's light and energy are movin away from us.

Theres a few others out there too. Mind blowing stuff.

How do they prove that stuff?

This is some of the research that the LHC will be able to do. They can simulate the Big Bang, and from that infer information about the creation of the universe.

I don't see how. You aren't going to be able to get anywhere close to examining things on the order of the Planck Length. Although we'll be a tiny fraction of a second from the Big Bang, the furthest we will be able to go back still has the current laws of physics embedded in space-time.

What the LHC will be good for is determining if there is a Higgs boson, and quite possibly if we live in a holographic universe. Of course there are always the surprises and that's what people really live for.

The question I wonder about is at what point the basics become incomprehensible. I doubt that we are able to understand everything. It would really piss people off if understanding quantum gravity required an intelligence greater than we have.

Well, we never know when a mutation will occur and us small-minded humans will evolve. In a few hundred thousand or million years there could be a more intelligent species.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: Fritzo
There's a few ideas of multi-verses out there----and one of these may be able to be proven one day because of some cool things they're doing in astrophysics these days:

1- Multiverse- our univerise is a bubble floating around with an infinite number of other universes. When one of these bubbles collides with another, it makes another universe whith it's own set of physics. Some universes don't have laws that allow matter to form, some may not have a speed limit, some may be all energy, some may be made out of one big lump of an element---the possibilities are endless.

2- Mirrorverse- Our universe may be dumbell shaped, meaning there's a whole 2nd universe that's jutting away from us in the other direction. We will never be able to observce this universe because it's light and energy are movin away from us.

Theres a few others out there too. Mind blowing stuff.

How do they prove that stuff?

This is some of the research that the LHC will be able to do. They can simulate the Big Bang, and from that infer information about the creation of the universe.

I don't see how. You aren't going to be able to get anywhere close to examining things on the order of the Planck Length. Although we'll be a tiny fraction of a second from the Big Bang, the furthest we will be able to go back still has the current laws of physics embedded in space-time.

What the LHC will be good for is determining if there is a Higgs boson, and quite possibly if we live in a holographic universe. Of course there are always the surprises and that's what people really live for.

The question I wonder about is at what point the basics become incomprehensible. I doubt that we are able to understand everything. It would really piss people off if understanding quantum gravity required an intelligence greater than we have.

Well, we never know when a mutation will occur and us small-minded humans will evolve. In a few hundred thousand or million years there could be a more intelligent species.

There are some who believe that humans are not considered "intelligent life". Kinda neat to think of it like that.

 

[dr150]

The expanding universe will hit a fence.

The fence on the other side will be greener, I guarantee you! :thumbsup:

 

[dr150]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: JohnCU
the universe is not infinite

Most scientists believe its not. I also believe that too. Its just fun to think about the universe if it actually were infinite. You would exists somewhere else doing the exact same thing you are doing right now (beating off)

Interesting hypothesis.

The whole universe beating off on some level....

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
Interesting story related to the topic:

The Last Question


Also, have you updated your cancer thread?

I love that story. Really makes you think.

hehe, methinks that Hyperion is loosely based off of that short story. Also, Battlestar Gallatica can be inferred to that short story, and somewhat to Hyperion as well.