If the universe is actually infinite

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Babbles

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Somewhere out there in this infinite universe there must be Bizarro Babbles?. I bet Bizarro Babbles - I like to call him B.B. for short - is a pretty cool guy. He's probably clean shaven and isn't an arrogant prick who also takes care of his body and lives a healthy life style.

Yeah, fuck that B.B. guy.
 

Sea Moose

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: nick1985
then this exact thread exists somewhere else.


discuss

Then this is a repost and requires locking

Someone beat you to the punch

damn, i read the title and then went into instant nef mode.


Ok I change my nef and raise you that the universe as we know it is actually the inside the pocket of a 12billion year old alien from another dimension.
 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: nick1985
then this exact thread exists somewhere else.


discuss

Then wtf?

R^infinity

Did we need another one of these threads... Mods please lock
 

IEC

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Such speculation is pointless until we have invented FTL travel to actually test the limits of our known universe.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: nick1985
then this exact thread exists somewhere else.


discuss

Then wtf?

R^infinity

Did we need another one of these threads... Mods please lock

Panties in a bunch? :roll:
 

Miramonti

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Its difficult to imagine how large our universe is, but when I try, Rosie O'Donnell conspicuously comes to mind.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Such speculation is pointless until we have invented FTL travel to actually test the limits of our known universe.

Just how would that work if the universe was infinite? :p
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'd like to meet the alternate me.

I don't think you do. I spoke to him yesterday and he voted for Bush twice. :shocked:

Good god you're right! :shocked: I only voted for that dumbfuck the first time...not that it mattered because Al Gore won California by a landslide.
 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: JohnCU
that's not how it works

Yep that's how it works. The entire universe can never be observed however our causally connected space has a definite volume defined by the volume of space that light has had a chance to reach since the beginning.

Now consider that in any such space there are a large but finite number of states. More precisely you could have a volume of space with no particles or one up to the point where all space is full if matter. Were somewhere inbetween and there are a finite number of combinations.

A moments reflection should lead you to the realization that all states not absolutely fobbiden by physics MUST occur, and infinitely many times.

HTH

This has interesting topological consequences...
 

jpeyton

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We don't really know if it's infinite. It's just that in our extremely young history of modern math/science, we haven't come up with all the answers yet. One of the questions is how to define something as large as the universe. We use "infinity" as a workaround, but I don't doubt we'll be able to define something as large as our universe eventually.

I think too many people here think we're supposed to have figured out everything by know. Our earth is 4.5 billion years old, and it's silly to think that a species as primative as ours would have the universe decoded in our short history.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'd like to meet the alternate me.

I don't think you do. I spoke to him yesterday and he voted for Bush twice. :shocked:

Good god you're right! :shocked: I only voted for that dumbfuck the first time...not that it mattered because Al Gore won California by a landslide.

:laugh:
 

Fritzo

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Jan 3, 2001
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There's a few ideas of multi-verses out there----and one of these may be able to be proven one day because of some cool things they're doing in astrophysics these days:

1- Multiverse- our univerise is a bubble floating around with an infinite number of other universes. When one of these bubbles collides with another, it makes another universe whith it's own set of physics. Some universes don't have laws that allow matter to form, some may not have a speed limit, some may be all energy, some may be made out of one big lump of an element---the possibilities are endless.

2- Mirrorverse- Our universe may be dumbell shaped, meaning there's a whole 2nd universe that's jutting away from us in the other direction. We will never be able to observce this universe because it's light and energy are movin away from us.

Theres a few others out there too. Mind blowing stuff.
 

RapidSnail

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
There's a few ideas of multi-verses out there----and one of these may be able to be proven one day because of some cool things they're doing in astrophysics these days:

1- Multiverse- our univerise is a bubble floating around with an infinite number of other universes. When one of these bubbles collides with another, it makes another universe whith it's own set of physics. Some universes don't have laws that allow matter to form, some may not have a speed limit, some may be all energy, some may be made out of one big lump of an element---the possibilities are endless.

2- Mirrorverse- Our universe may be dumbell shaped, meaning there's a whole 2nd universe that's jutting away from us in the other direction. We will never be able to observce this universe because it's light and energy are movin away from us.

Theres a few others out there too. Mind blowing stuff.

How do they prove that stuff?
 

Gothgar

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if it is infinite, then this thread exists infinite times

soooo


Repostx100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000^infinite
 

Fox5

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The universe could be an infinite expanse of nothingness after you get past all the matter.
Or it could wrap around in some weird way.
Or space could be defined by the existence of matter and energy, and you'd never be able to get more than a certain distance away from the stuff in the universe.
 

pontifex

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in an alternate universe, this thread wouldn't exist. unfortunately we aren't in that universe :(
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: nick1985
then this exact thread exists somewhere else.


discuss

If you follow that logic, you could put a bunch of computer components in your dryer on spin cycle and eventually you would have a whole computer. If you follow it back further, you could put a bunch of rocks and animals in your dryer and you would eventually have an ultimate gaming rig from 20 years in the future....or a room sized computer from back in the 60's.


 

alyarb

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: JohnCU
that's not how it works

Yep that's how it works. The entire universe can never be observed however our causally connected space has a definite volume defined by the volume of space that light has had a chance to reach since the beginning.

Now consider that in any such space there are a large but finite number of states. More precisely you could have a volume of space with no particles or one up to the point where all space is full if matter. Were somewhere inbetween and there are a finite number of combinations.

A moments reflection should lead you to the realization that all states not absolutely fobbiden by physics MUST occur, and infinitely many times.

HTH

This has interesting topological consequences...

not even matter is full of matter.