If Team Bush Steals Another Election...

[InfectedMushroom]

OK, I opened the can of worms with the popular election comment...

But I feel the current system doesn't always work. As TheGameIs21 pointed out, his views are completely different than those of us from Ca or NY. So what do we do than? We feel that we got robbed having bush elected and not representing what a majority of the people of the country wanted.

 

[conjur]

If you feel you were robbed then you just need to get over it. You weren't. Our country has always elected its President via the Electoral College. And, Bush isn't the first President to not have the popular vote.

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: conjur
If you feel you were robbed then you just need to get over it. You weren't. Our country has always elected its President via the Electoral College. And, Bush isn't the first President to not have the popular vote.

Correct. However what if the current system has run it's course and is outdated now? Do you agree that methods of goverment could become outdate and should eventually evolve or be replaced?
Assuming a system is right because it has been in place for a couple of hundred years is not correct.

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: conjur
Hey...I've said before. I don't toe any party's line. Democrats, Republicans, etc. are never right 100% of the time.

If more people would realize that, there'd be less polarization in this land.

:beer:

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: conjur
If you feel you were robbed then you just need to get over it. You weren't. Our country has always elected its President via the Electoral College. And, Bush isn't the first President to not have the popular vote.

Correct. However what if the current system has run it's course and is outdated now? Do you agree that methods of goverment could become outdate and should eventually evolve or be replaced?
Assuming a system is right because it has been in place for a couple of hundred years is not correct.

It's [the electoral college] worked perfectly for 228 years. I think we're fine.

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: conjur
If you feel you were robbed then you just need to get over it. You weren't. Our country has always elected its President via the Electoral College. And, Bush isn't the first President to not have the popular vote.

Correct. However what if the current system has run it's course and is outdated now? Do you agree that methods of goverment could become outdate and should eventually evolve or be replaced?
Assuming a system is right because it has been in place for a couple of hundred years is not correct.

It's [the electoral college] worked perfectly for 228 years. I think we're fine.

slavery worked perfectly 228 years ago too.

and i wouldn't call it working perfectly when there have been 4 elections so far in these 228 years when the popular choice was not elected as the president.

 

[AEB]

thats a lame comparison first of all
as for the college ur in the wrong thread but ill respond. The electoral college works anyone can spend tons of money in california florida newyork etc.. look at the past elections and compare to it w/o electoral college and you will see i makes canidates campaign in more states.

Besides that if you think there isnt voter fraud you are mistaken. Many times ID's nor registration status are checked

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: chess9
Conjur:

That's pure revisionism. The Republicans pulled the end run. Give me a break....

But, let's not revisit the last election because that puppy has been beaten to death.

-Robert

the supreme court did vote 7-2 to end the recounts as they were being conducted. that is not revisionism, that is what happened. 7 of 9 justices disagreed with the fact that from county to county different standards were used for what constitutes a vote in the recount, and several counties switched their criteria DURING the recount. if that isn't unconstitutional i don't know what is.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
OK, I opened the can of worms with the popular election comment...

But I feel the current system doesn't always work. As TheGameIs21 pointed out, his views are completely different than those of us from Ca or NY. So what do we do than? We feel that we got robbed having bush elected and not representing what a majority of the people of the country wanted.

there was no majority candidate in the 2000 election

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
OK, I opened the can of worms with the popular election comment...

But I feel the current system doesn't always work. As TheGameIs21 pointed out, his views are completely different than those of us from Ca or NY. So what do we do than? We feel that we got robbed having bush elected and not representing what a majority of the people of the country wanted.

there was no majority candidate in the 2000 election

you're right. i stand corrected.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: conjur
If you feel you were robbed then you just need to get over it. You weren't. Our country has always elected its President via the Electoral College. And, Bush isn't the first President to not have the popular vote.

Yep, just like the German people got over Hitler, Heil Bush!!!

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Would you join a violent revolution to overthrow his regime?

I think it would be our patriotic duty to do so.

Disclaimer for the thought police: I am in no way planning such a coup, this is a hypothetical.

You realize who you would be fighting and how well armed they are?

 

[Romans828]

Sry....... double post

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: conjur
If you feel you were robbed then you just need to get over it. You weren't. Our country has always elected its President via the Electoral College. And, Bush isn't the first President to not have the popular vote.

Yep, just like the German people got over Hitler, Heil Bush!!!

Your constant comparison of Bush to Hitler is stupid, offensive, and beyond the pail. You may be frustrated with Bush but suggetsing he compares to Hitler is out of line, it really is.

Do you know how many people around here lost family members in war to free the world of Hitler.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: conjur
If you feel you were robbed then you just need to get over it. You weren't. Our country has always elected its President via the Electoral College. And, Bush isn't the first President to not have the popular vote.

Yep, just like the German people got over Hitler, Heil Bush!!!

Your constant comparison of Bush to Hitler is stupid, offensive, and beyond the pail. You may be frustrated with Bush but suggetsing he compares to Hitler is out of line, it really is.

Do you know how many people around here lost family members in war to free the world of Hitler.

My comparison is not to WWII and most people would know that (apparently present company not incuded

),
it is to the Regime style of Tactics, Political mayhem and utter brainwashing of the current administration.

The rise of power by such co-horts as A$$croft with the passage of such things as the Patriot Act, Patriot my butt.
I'm not going to go into the myriads of other things that are being debated ad nausium on here everyday.

To borrow from an previous campaign, "It's the Regime Stupid".

 

[Romans828]

I hear you, but its still in poor taste.

Just pointing it out, obviously you are free to continue as you see fit.

You get to say what you want to in America (thank God) even under the oppresive Bush Administration,

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Romans828
I hear you, but its still in poor taste.

Just pointing it out, obviously you are free to continue as you see fit.

You get to say what you want to in America (thank God) even under the oppresive Bush Administration,

I agree it is poor taste, so is the aftertaste of the Bush Regime, time for a change out.

 

[TheGameIs21]

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: conjur
If you feel you were robbed then you just need to get over it. You weren't. Our country has always elected its President via the Electoral College. And, Bush isn't the first President to not have the popular vote.

Correct. However what if the current system has run it's course and is outdated now? Do you agree that methods of goverment could become outdate and should eventually evolve or be replaced?
Assuming a system is right because it has been in place for a couple of hundred years is not correct.

It's [the electoral college] worked perfectly for 228 years. I think we're fine.

slavery worked perfectly 228 years ago too.

and i wouldn't call it working perfectly when there have been 4 elections so far in these 228 years when the popular choice was not elected as the president.

This is not a slam by any means.... I have always been taught by my father that if I am really upset about how something is being done, don't just bitch about it. Actually come up with a better system and present it in an argument. Otherwise I am just bitching.

Outside of the Popular vote, how would you want it done if not by the Electoral?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: conjur
If you feel you were robbed then you just need to get over it. You weren't. Our country has always elected its President via the Electoral College. And, Bush isn't the first President to not have the popular vote.

Correct. However what if the current system has run it's course and is outdated now? Do you agree that methods of goverment could become outdate and should eventually evolve or be replaced?
Assuming a system is right because it has been in place for a couple of hundred years is not correct.

It's [the electoral college] worked perfectly for 228 years. I think we're fine.

slavery worked perfectly 228 years ago too.

and i wouldn't call it working perfectly when there have been 4 elections so far in these 228 years when the popular choice was not elected as the president.

Slavery?!?

WTF?

Come on back down to earth and let's try and have a logical discussion, k?