If Sanders wins Michigan, it will be the greatest polling error/upset ever

[Virge_]

Speculation presented as fact. With a large cow flop of derision right on top.

In 2008 the spread between Clinton & Obama was only 102 pledged delegates, 3% of the total. When the difference is that small neither candidate has a true mandate. Hillary worked hard to have it her way but we all know what happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2008

I figure the Repub convention will be a lot more interesting if the Donald shows up with less than enough pledged delegates to win. That situation could easily shape up to be rife with all sorts of creative subterfuge.

Okay. Lets attempt to view this purely logically.

Please cite a time in history, prior to the current election, where the super-delegate tally for a DNC presidential candidate was overwhelmingly in favor of a single candidate prior to the conclusion of the popular vote.

If you can and it relates, then I can understand why you feel this way but still remain skeptical.

If you cannot, then you are finally forced to recognize the monumentally important variable you seem to disregard every time you convey this point.

 

[Sonikku]

He wins yet he gets fewer delegates. WTF

 

[fskimospy]

I appreciate your opinion on this matter, but that wasn't the agreement. I don't intend to provide you the contact details to allow a future DOX on me to happen.

Either ensure the transaction has privacy and is insured, allow me to do so, or back out. I am being very reasonable, please choose one option and we can happily proceed.

I have no interest in concluding any payment that would identify either you or me. When the time comes we will work out a way you can submit payment anonymously, so don't sweat it. No need to put things in escrow now.

Frankly, I don't even really care about the money and you can keep it if you want. I'll still pay up if I lose, it's just very unlikely that I will. This is what I tried to tell you before you entered into this foolish bet to begin with.

 

[Virge_]

I have no interest in concluding any payment that would identify either you or me. When the time comes we will work out a way you can submit payment anonymously, so don't sweat it. No need to put things in escrow now.

Frankly, I don't even really care about the money and you can keep it if you want. I'll still pay up if I lose, it's just very unlikely that I will. This is what I tried to tell you before you entered into this foolish bet to begin with.

Ok. I will take that as you deferring to me. Please ensure you have a Coinbase (or similar/any service which gives you a BTC wallet or the ability to transfer BTC to a BTC wallet) account created so we can do a same-day BTC transaction (no chance in fluxuation if you go fiat->BTC->fiat). It will be the swiftest way for an anonymous transaction to happen within 10 minutes.

Sound good?

 

[fskimospy]

Ok. I will take that as you deferring to me. Please ensure you have a Coinbase account created so we can do a same-day BTC transaction (no chance in fluxuation if you go fiat->BTC->fiat). It will be the swiftest way for an anonymous transaction to happen within 10 minutes.

Sound good?

I want US currency, not bitcoins. I don't waste my time with that stuff.

 

[Virge_]

I want US currency, not bitcoins. I don't waste my time with that stuff.

You seem to misunderstand.

By using an Exchange you will not be "trusting Bitcoin". You are getting US currency. The process is simple, and is as follows:

Step 1: Loser buys approximately $100 in BTC. (approximate time: instant)
Step 2: Loser sends BTC to winner. (approximate time: 10-30 minutes)
Step 3: Winner sells BTC for USD and has it deposited into their bank. (approximate time: 1-3 days EFT)

Nobody holds Bitcoin. It's used purely as a medium to complete the transaction. The reason BTC is used is because to do the transaction we simply need wallet identifiers and nothing else, verifying it's validity in a swift, secure, and anonymous manner.

If you still insist on deferring for whatever reason (presumption is you are not technical enough for the above steps to be completed, which is understandable) then please provide an alternate method for the secure and anonymous transaction of USD and I'll happily oblidge if it meets my hardening requirements (which are simple, anonymous, secure, and preferably public for validation).

 

[fskimospy]

You seem to misunderstand.

By using an Exchange you will not be "trusting Bitcoin". You are getting US currency. The process is simple, and is as follows:

Step 1: Loser buys approximately $100 in BTC. (approximate time: instant)
Step 2: Loser sends BTC to winner. (approximate time: 10-30 minutes)
Step 3: Winner sells BTC for USD and has it deposited into their bank. (approximate time: 1-3 days EFT)

Nobody holds Bitcoin. It's used purely as a medium to complete the transaction. The reason BTC is used is because to do the transaction we simply need wallet identifiers and nothing else, verifying it's validity in a swift, secure, and anonymous manner.

I don't care about 'trusting' bitcoin or not, it's just an irritating extra step that I'd rather not deal with. The bet was for $100 US, so pay me $100 US. Don't pay me with things I can sell for $100 US.

If you still insist on deferring for whatever reason (presumption is you are not technical enough for the above steps to be completed, which is understandable) then please provide an alternate method for the secure and anonymous transaction of USD and I'll happily oblidge if it meets my hardening requirements (which are simple, anonymous, secure, and preferably public for validation).

Stop with the condescending bullshit. If you're angry because you're losing that's your fault for wasting your money on a bad bet. Again, you can keep your money for all I care.

 

[Virge_]

I don't care about 'trusting' bitcoin or not, it's just an irritating extra step that I'd rather not deal with. The bet was for $100 US, so pay me $100 US. Don't pay me with things I can sell for $100 US.



Stop with the condescending bullshit. If you're angry because you're losing that's your fault for wasting your money on a bad bet. Again, you can keep your money for all I care.

Jesus Christ, this is simple. State a valid way for us to process payment and once we both agree it's a done deal. I made the mistake of trying to make it easier on you but now you're just being intentionally difficult so lets just cut to the chase.

Stop playing word games and beating around the bush and back out if you're going to back out, otherwise throw out a service and lets be done with this back and forth.

I repeat, since you seem to continue to get lost in your own world, that once you have named the service we will use, our bet is valid. Stop stalling and just pick something already.

 

[BoberFett]

Wait what? It was a bet ever since we agreed. Don't try to back out now that Sanders is going down the toilet as predicted.

Typical Shillarybot. Sanders is running a great campaign and picking up momentum, taking votes from Hillary where she was supposed to have a slam dunk win, yet he's "going down the toilet". People like this douchebag are why I say there's no difference between the parties. He's more than happy to have a corrupt piece of shit in office, as long as it's his corrupt piece of shit and not the other team's corrupt piece of shit.

 

[fskimospy]

Jesus Christ, this is simple. State a valid way for us to process payment and once we both agree it's a done deal. I made the mistake of trying to make it easier on you but now you're just being intentionally difficult so lets just cut to the chase.

Stop playing word games and beating around the bush and back out if you're going to back out, otherwise throw out a service and lets be done with this back and forth.

I repeat, since you seem to continue to get lost in your own world, that once you have named the service we will use, our bet is valid. Stop stalling and just pick something already.

Haha, I was trying to be nice and let you off the hook but since you're acting like a petulant child I'm going to take your money. Your fat mouth just cost you $100.

We'll go with your way. Coinbase it is!

 

[fskimospy]

Typical Shillarybot. Sanders is running a great campaign and picking up momentum, taking votes from Hillary where she was supposed to have a slam dunk win, yet he's "going down the toilet". People like this douchebag are why I say there's no difference between the parties. He's more than happy to have a corrupt piece of shit in office, as long as it's his corrupt piece of shit and not the other team's corrupt piece of shit.

ivwshane is very representative of the modern left. Spiteful, hateful, and ugly.

Replace ivwshane with Boberfett and left with right.

 

[SP33Demon]

Why not just do paypal and call it a day. FFS

 

[Virge_]

Haha, I was trying to be nice and let you off the hook but since you're acting like a petulant child I'm going to take your money. Your fat mouth just cost you $100.

We'll go with your way. Coinbase it is!

Done and done. Wager final.

You can pretend to do me a favor all you want, reality is I have no desire to be "off the hook" as you call it, and have only been trying to finalize an agreement to which you have thrown a hissy fit over being too technically illiterate.

With that said, thank you for finally making a decision - I'm used to dealing with women and their indecisiveness so my annoyance has already passed.

BTC transaction it is, Coinbase is what I will use and you are welcome to use any BTC service of your choice (through I recommend Coinbase, it's easy enough to get an account bank-attached and validated within a day or two).

Talk soon, odds are still higher you'll be getting $100 from me, but for all our futures I hope you're wrong and it's the other way around.

 

[Virge_]

Why not just do paypal and call it a day. FFS

Secure, anonymous, and audit-able transaction.

Paypal only meets 2/3rds of the requirements.

 

[fskimospy]

Done and done. Wager final.

You can pretend to do me a favor all you want, reality is I have no desire to be "off the hook" as you call it, and have only been trying to finalize an agreement to which you have thrown a hissy fit over being too technically illiterate.

With that said, thank you for finally making a decision - I'm used to dealing with women and their indecisiveness so my annoyance has already passed.

BTC transaction it is, Coinbase is what I will use and you are welcome to use any BTC service of your choice (through I recommend Coinbase, it's easy enough to get an account bank-attached and validated within a day or two).

It's ironic that you're complaining about me throwing a 'hissy fit' while continually insulting me and trying to compare me to a woman. Grow up.

Talk soon, odds are still higher you'll be getting $100 from me, but for all our futures I hope you're wrong and it's the other way around.

Thanks for your concern about our futures. Maybe Sanders would be doing better if he tried to make policies that were even modestly tethered to reality.

 

[Virge_]

It's ironic that you're complaining about me throwing a 'hissy fit' while continually insulting me and trying to compare me to a woman. Grow up.

Holy shit, you're a man?

I'm sorry.. I seriously just came to the conclusion you were a woman organically due to how much you bitched like one. I just laughed a bit at myself in spite of that, I really should do better about making presumptions.

Genuine apologies. Please accept them, but either way our conversation will be completely civil from now on if you allow.

 

[fskimospy]

Holy shit, you're a man?

I'm sorry.. I seriously just came to the conclusion you were a woman organically due to how much you bitched like one. I just laughed a bit at myself in spite of that, I really should do better about making presumptions.

Genuine apologies. Please accept them, but either way our conversation will be completely civil from now on if you allow.

It's funny that you included an insult in the same post where you offered civil conversation going forward. As for civil conversation, no thanks. I tried to be nice to you repeatedly and you ranted and raved like a child.

From now on I'll just stick to making fun of you about all the money you're losing on bets so bad that an eight year old could have waved you off. You probably look at the Keno boards in Vegas and think "with all these numbers I CAN'T POSSIBLY LOSE", haha.

 

[Virge_]

It's funny that you included an insult in the same post where you offered civil conversation going forward. As for civil conversation, no thanks. I tried to be nice to you repeatedly and you ranted and raved like a child.

From now on I'll just stick to making fun of you about all the money you're losing on bets so bad that an eight year old could have waved you off. You probably look at the Keno boards in Vegas and think "with all these numbers I CAN'T POSSIBLY LOSE", haha.

/shrug.

As you wish. I won't engage any further so you'll have to be satisfied with whatever you get if/when you win our wager.

 

[fskimospy]

/shrug.

As you wish. I won't engage any further so you'll have to be satisfied with whatever you get if/when you win our wager.

Do you ever look at those phones in casinos that let you bypass your credit card cash advance limit and think "With all that extra cash I COULD WIN EVEN MORE"?

 

[BoberFett]

Replace ivwshane with Boberfett and left with right.

*yawn*

And if you think I'm "the right", well you're just a special little guy aren't ya.

 

[Jhhnn]

Okay. Lets attempt to view this purely logically.

Please cite a time in history, prior to the current election, where the super-delegate tally for a DNC presidential candidate was overwhelmingly in favor of a single candidate prior to the conclusion of the popular vote.

If you can and it relates, then I can understand why you feel this way but still remain skeptical.

If you cannot, then you are finally forced to recognize the monumentally important variable you seem to disregard every time you convey this point.

I don't have to do that because superdelegates are not really committed until they actually vote. You might have some sort of half-assed point if Hillary had fewer pledged delegates & Hillary's pledged delegate count combined with her theoretical superdelegate count gave her enough to win the nom but we're nowhere near that.

 

[zinfamous]

wtf are you concerned about being "Doxed" here?

 

[SP33Demon]

It's ironic that you're complaining about me throwing a 'hissy fit' while continually insulting me and trying to compare me to a woman. Grow up.



Thanks for your concern about our futures. Maybe Sanders would be doing better if he tried to make policies that were even modestly tethered to reality.

Very interesting that you translated Virge's comment as him saying you're a woman ("With that said, thank you for finally making a decision - I'm used to dealing with women and their indecisiveness so my annoyance has already passed."). To me, that meant he's comparing your indecision to some of the women he's dealt with. Not that "you are a woman".

Also interesting that you think being a woman is an insult to you. I thought liberals were all about being equal? Apparently you don't practice what you preach if you take someone calling you a woman as an insult. :biggrin:

 

[fskimospy]

*yawn*

And if you think I'm "the right", well you're just a special little guy aren't ya.

Oh you're definitely on the right. It just so happens that you're a hypocrite as well, haha.

 

[fskimospy]

Very interesting that you translated Virge's comment as him saying you're a woman ("With that said, thank you for finally making a decision - I'm used to dealing with women and their indecisiveness so my annoyance has already passed."). To me, that meant he's comparing your indecision to some of the women he's dealt with. Not that "you are a woman".

Also interesting that you think being a woman is an insult to you. I thought liberals were all about being equal? Apparently you don't practice what you preach if you take someone calling you a woman as an insult. :biggrin:

I dont find it to be an insult, but I'm quite confident he meant it as one.