If Obama is not elected, will there be violence in the streets?

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cKGunslinger

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I can't imagine riots in either case. The hot-headedness and passion that exists in this forum is not at all indicative of the average, complacent-if-not-indifferent American.

But I suppose if the media goes ape-shit crazy over some results and throws out stupid things like bringing on "experts" to say, "Boy - I sure hope nobody riots over this," then it's a possibility.
 

miketheidiot

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i think if the polls were predicting a rout (like 15+ points) and somehow it turns up going the other way, and there are all sorts of inconsistencies and irregularities, then maybe.


if obama has a 1-3 point lead and loses in the electoral college,type loss, then no.
 

ranmaniac

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I'm sure there will be isolated incidents regardless of who wins, but depending on how the media reacts, it could mean the difference between a small grass fire, and something along the lines of the LA riots.
 

ProfJohn

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I think if there is a sense that Obama was cheated, whether he was or not doesn't really matter, then we could see some Rodney King style riots.

I lived in the Virginia Beach area when they had the riots years ago. All it took was some bored college kids and some loud music for all hell to break loose. Now imagine if the story line on election night becomes 'Obama cheated by whitey' and I think you could easily see a situation that leads to riots and violence.
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I think if there is a sense that Obama was cheated, whether he was or not doesn't really matter, then we could see some Rodney King style riots.

I lived in the Virginia Beach area when they had the riots years ago. All it took was some bored college kids and some loud music for all hell to break loose. Now imagine if the story line on election night becomes 'Obama cheated by whitey' and I think you could easily see a situation that leads to riots and violence.

Possibly, but it would not really be the fault of the election... We have seen plenty riots over ball games won and lost. Some people are just looking for an excuse.
 

classy

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I believe there will be violence no matter what over this election. How much depends on how close the election is. If it is a narrow win on either side, the other side will feel cheated and violence will be the result, especially if Obama wins. If it is a lopsided win you may read about a few isolated incidents but nothing major. One thing is not in doubt, a different outlook on our country in general will be front and center on Nov 5.
 
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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Doesnt matter who wins, theres going to be riots.

I don't think so. The majority is definitely Obama and the minority is McCain. Knowing this, it would seem more likely that a riot or violence may occur if the voice of the majority is shunned. McCain losing on the other hand would have some grumblings but nothing on the magnitude of the Obama camp. Rightfully so (as stated before) they should stand up and say something. The past two elections have been questionable to say the least.

Hell, people riot when their own sports team wins a basketball game. Why wouldn't they get in a tizzy when their pres choice wins?
 

Specop 007

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Just as I've been saying. I'll bet we see riots regardless of who wins. Its interesting the police in urban areas seem to think roughly along the same lines.

But, as is so often the case, I'm sure many will come along and call me a racist for pointing out the FACT that police are worried about blacks rioting....

Article

Police prepare for unrest
By Alexander Bolton
Posted: 10/21/08 07:58 PM [ET]
Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.


Public safety officials said in interviews with The Hill that the election, which will end with either the nation?s first black president or its first female vice president, demanded a stronger police presence.

Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in urban areas (following professional sports events) and also on Internet rumors.


Democratic strategists and advocates for black voters say they understand officers wanting to keep the peace, but caution that excessive police presence could intimidate voters.


Sen. Obama (Ill.), the Democratic nominee for president, has seen his lead over rival Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) grow in recent weeks, prompting speculation that there could be a violent backlash if he loses unexpectedly.


Cities that have suffered unrest before, such as Detroit, Chicago, Oakland and Philadelphia, will have extra police deployed.


In Oakland, the police will deploy extra units trained in riot control, as well as extra traffic police, and even put SWAT teams on standby.


?Are we anticipating it will be a riot situation? No. But will we be prepared if it goes awry? Yes,? said Jeff Thomason, spokesman for the Oakland Police Department.


?I think it is a big deal ? you got an African-American running and [a] woman running,? he added, in reference to Obama and GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin. ?Whoever wins it, it will be a national event. We will have more officers on the street in anticipation that things may go south.?


The Oakland police last faced big riots in 2003 when the Raiders lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the Super Bowl. Officials are bracing themselves in case residents of Oakland take Obama?s loss badly.


Political observers such as Hilary Shelton and James Carville fear that record voter turnout could overload polling places on Election Day and could raise tension levels.


Shelton, the director of the NAACP?s Washington bureau, said inadequate voting facilities is a bigger problem in poor communities with large numbers of minorities.


?What are local election officials doing to prepare for what people think will be record turnout at the polls?? said Shelton, who added that during the 2004 election in Ohio voters in predominantly black communities had to wait in line six to eight hours to vote.


?On Election Day, if this continues, you may have some tempers flare; we should be prepared to deal with that but do it without intimidation,? said Shelton, who added that police have to be able to maintain order at polling stations without scaring voters, especially immigrants from ?police states.?

(Continued at link)


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Jiggz

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Doesnt matter who wins, theres going to be riots.

I don't think so. The majority is definitely Obama and the minority is McCain. Knowing this, it would seem more likely that a riot or violence may occur if the voice of the majority is shunned. McCain losing on the other hand would have some grumblings but nothing on the magnitude of the Obama camp. Rightfully so (as stated before) they should stand up and say something. The past two elections have been questionable to say the least.

I don't get the purpose of the OP's thread! If he's so absolutely sure that the majority are for Obama and absolutely sure that the minority are McCain, what other discourse does he want? An assurance that we all agree that Obama is the clear and majority winner and that if he losses we should got out on the streets and riot? Patronize him with his absolute thinking? What exactly do you want us to do? What kind of discourse do you want when you have already made a firm conclusion that Obama is going to win! If you're trying to rally us behind you, well you are absolutely right we are behind you! In fact well behind you. As soon as we see you out there on the street rioting we're still behind you, literally! Geez! I can't believe you even call this a "reasoned" discourse!
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: Jiggz
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Doesnt matter who wins, theres going to be riots.

I don't think so. The majority is definitely Obama and the minority is McCain. Knowing this, it would seem more likely that a riot or violence may occur if the voice of the majority is shunned. McCain losing on the other hand would have some grumblings but nothing on the magnitude of the Obama camp. Rightfully so (as stated before) they should stand up and say something. The past two elections have been questionable to say the least.

I don't get the purpose of the OP's thread! If he's so absolutely sure that the majority are for Obama and absolutely sure that the minority are McCain, what other discourse does he want? An assurance that we all agree that Obama is the clear and majority winner and that if he losses we should got out on the streets and riot? Patronize him with his absolute thinking? What exactly do you want us to do? What kind of discourse do you want when you have already made a firm conclusion that Obama is going to win! If you're trying to rally us behind you, well you are absolutely right we are behind you! In fact well behind you. As soon as we see you out there on the street rioting we're still behind you, literally! Geez! I can't believe you even call this a "reasoned" discourse!

He is a big time libertopian and he doesn't believe in the federal government. He wants to see all kinds of uprising against the government in hopes of replacing it with tons of NWO libertarian wet dreams. That is all this is about.
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Doesnt matter who wins, theres going to be riots.

I don't think so. The majority is definitely Obama and the minority is McCain. Knowing this, it would seem more likely that a riot or violence may occur if the voice of the majority is shunned. McCain losing on the other hand would have some grumblings but nothing on the magnitude of the Obama camp. Rightfully so (as stated before) they should stand up and say something. The past two elections have been questionable to say the least.

Hell, people riot when their own sports team wins a basketball game. Why wouldn't they get in a tizzy when their pres choice wins?

I'm pretty sure sports has about 100x the popularity as politics in most American households.
 

Chadder007

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They said there would be riots if Kerry lost to Bush also..... The Dems seem to want to play this scare tactic year after year now.
 

SSSnail

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What is this? Either Oblahma win or riots? I thought wealthy educated folks won't result to violence, my how time has changed.
 

Fern

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I think it's appropriate that they prepare, I do not, however, forsee Obama losing.

I can image overloaded polling places, that could be a problem.

I've seen the winning side's fans riot after a sporting event, any possibility of something similar after an Obama victory?

Fern
 

halik

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Heh i don't think black people care that much, judging by the historical turnout.
 

cliftonite

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Originally posted by: Fern
I think it's appropriate that they prepare, I do not, however, forsee Obama losing.

I can image overloaded polling places, that could be a problem.

I've seen the winning side's fans riot after a sporting event, any possibility of something similar after an Obama victory?

Fern

Why wouldnt something similar happen if McCain were to win?
 

StageLeft

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I say this is done every election and the onus is on somebody to prove me wrong, since I think it's an absolute given.
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
What is this? Either Oblahma win or riots? I thought wealthy educated folks won't result to violence, my how time has changed.

The wealthy educated folks will not riot if Obama wins. Those, living on section 8 subsidies who were looking for those "nice" tax credits, even though they don't pay any taxes are the ones who will be angry. They could potentially start a riot, head for their local electronics store and start looting. Always looking for a handout ...
 

DarrelSPowers

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
What is this? Either Oblahma win or riots? I thought wealthy educated folks won't result to violence, my how time has changed.

I believe the phrase you're looking for is "resort to violence" but I could be wrong, I'm quite uneducated and very poor.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: CitizenKain
You are really itching for a race war aren't you.

And THATS the problem.

You STILL hold on to the outdated thought that this is a race war, just as those depe south people hold on to their old beliefs.

This has little to do with race and a hell of a lot more to do with class. Rarely, rarely does the middle class riot.