If Kerry wins and my taxes go up

[Tom]

theblackbox-

Depending on what your business is your business taxes may go down under Kerry, assuming his plan to rearrange tax breaks to favor businesses that create jobs here is achieved. I think his ideas on healthcare are more likely to help a small business owner then Bush's too.

 

[theblackbox]

doesn't consumerism spur jobs though? otherwise the retail sector would be very small, as no new items would be on the market.

An example is the computer accounting industry.
As of last year, user saturation for accounting programs like peachtree and quickbooks was well over 70%. There is very little business in the new business market where people that do not have accounting programs need them, so the industry is trying to find new ways of pleasing the saturated market, or go belly up like other parts of the computer industry have or are at this point. Consumerism drives technology and improvements. Do you not think that consumerism has made fusetalk what it is, and put anand and anandtech what he is and what it is today. Without that consumerism you seem to loathe, we would all be sitting around unable to debate or talk because the need would not be there.

in which many people are pursuing careers they don't want to and as a result we have a fairly dissatisified population

Why are people doing something they don't want? Here in america when you go to college or the job market, the government does not tell you what you can or can not do, it is the choice of the individual, are you saying that we should not allow the individual to decide for themselves, as they will surely choose something they do not want to do and become dissatisfied? Thats an odd way to think of things.

I'm glad we have a good consumer market, and that people can buy whatever they want. I believe you should live within your means, but i believe people are free to make their own choices, and if they choose to be in debt and ruin their life, that is their choice.

And i am glad that we have that choice. I hope that never changes.

I'm not saying earning should be capped, because I don't think it should be - at least not from the govnerment. I'm just pointing out that people have RIDICULOUSLY skewed views of what's 'required' to live.

Who sets a standard on whats required to live? I don't hate a rich person because they have more money, a bigger house, or a nicer car then me. If you do, maybe it's not them you hate, but it's you yourself that you hate (not directed at author of statement but in general). People seem always to envy money and items.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Kerry will raise taxes on big corporations by closing tax loopholes, and the ultra wealthy like him and his wife.

Dream On

 

[piasabird]

If Kerry wins the Balance of Power may suffer greatly for the Democratic Side. Someone will have to replace Kerrry and Edwards in Congress. Most likely it will not matter much. The world will still go on how it will.

Our legislators were not able to establish a free health care system under Clinton's 8 years of office, so you might ask yourself why that is??? Obviously good health care accessible by all is a good idea in a conceptual kind of way but the application of such a task by our form of government would not go over well with the legislators. No one wants to pay for it and no one wants to tell people they cant see the doctor they want to see. Short of Socialized Medicine where every doctor works for the federal government, I do not see a way to achieve it.

 

[TBone77]

Originally posted by: Isla
I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you.

Ultimately, a LOT of changes will have to be made to get us out of the various messes our country is in. Everyone will have to sacrifice a little, but hopefully the sacrifices we all make will put us on more solid ground collectively AND individually.

It will be better than this quicksand we've been stuck in for the past 4 years.

I agree... which is why I was VERY surprised to see Kerry look right into the camera in the 2nd debate: "No new taxes"

I don't see how either candidate could keep that promise. It's inevitable.

 

[ReiAyanami]

easy, no new taxes. he is simply repealing bush's irresponsible DOUBLE tax cuts for the rich. kenneth lay deserves a big tax cut for his hard work shredding all those documents. kenny boy

 

[TBone77]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
easy, no new taxes. he is simply repealing bush's irresponsible DOUBLE tax cuts for the rich. kenneth lay deserves a big tax cut for his hard work shredding all those documents. kenny boy

Sorry, no matter how you slice it, new taxes are new taxes. If I pay more in taxes today than I paid yesterday, I have new taxes.

Semantics will not excuse a broken promise. Not by a longshot. New taxes are necessary; it was a stupid promise to make and if he wins this election, it could easily cost him a second term... just like Bush Sr.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

If Kerry wins and my taxes go up

...thank the Republican Congress.

 

[TBone77]

Originally posted by: ELP

If Kerry wins and my taxes go up

...thank the Republican Congress.

...are we already making excuses?

 

[Steeplerot]

If I have to pay taxes to help my country out of this mess and back on track I can do some belt-tightening.
I don't mind taxes as long as they are helping us and not being used to bomb children across the world.
I really do not see how he said no new taxes either. If he said "Mr. President, I HAVE to raise some of our peoples taxes cuz you screwed us and now we have no choice."
I would have been fine with that.
This is one of the things that bugged me about the debates (that and not telling us his plan for bringing the soldiers home ASAP)

Nonetheless with all the vietnam era talk of how he stood up for his fellow soldiers to bring them home I am sure he is waiting to get briefing from Pentagon when he is in office before he comes up with a plan.
I'd rather have a realistic planned military action then the half assed trigger happy mess or making stuff up to get elected. A captain doesen't march into a situation blindfolded another good reason to have a officer for president.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: TBone77

Originally posted by: ELP

If Kerry wins and my taxes go up

...thank the Republican Congress.

...are we already making excuses?

He can't do it by himself can he?

Checks and balances, my friend, something we don't have at the moment.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Beowulf

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: TranceNation


poor guy, now he won't be able to buy his bmw/mercedes...

or instead of a 200 foot yacht, only get 150 footer.

You guys are messed up. I got no money but am not stupid I rather bust my ass off for a benzo anyday than conform to what I can afford. Don't you guys have goals in life don't you want to make money and improve your standard of living. I used to shop at goodwill and buy ol beat up nike's I don't want to go back to that I can only improve.

I'm pretty happy right now. My car runs. I've got a beautiful fiance and I'm doing ok. I'd be unhappy busting my ass just afford a benz that I don't even want. My goal is to be happy, and few "things" make me any happier.

You're the one who sounds like you're messed up to me.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Beowulf
Yeah.....or you can just make more money thats the beauty of the USA. Now it would suck to have to pay more of it away in taxes for BS. BTW I'm not talking about happiness alright you don't have to be unhappy to want the best stuff in life. People always assume that though.

And you don't have to want the 'best stuff' in life to be happy.

 

[Strk]

If you're self-employed or a small business owner and are incapable of getting your reported income below 200k, you are either very wealthy or you have a terrible accountant.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: TBone77

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
easy, no new taxes. he is simply repealing bush's irresponsible DOUBLE tax cuts for the rich. kenneth lay deserves a big tax cut for his hard work shredding all those documents. kenny boy

Sorry, no matter how you slice it, new taxes are new taxes. If I pay more in taxes today than I paid yesterday, I have new taxes.

Semantics will not excuse a broken promise. Not by a longshot. New taxes are necessary; it was a stupid promise to make and if he wins this election, it could easily cost him a second term... just like Bush Sr.

Kerry is unlikely to get a second term even if he wins. Things are just too fvcked up now and unless he pulls off a miracle he'll likely take the blame for it. Plus, most of his plans will be blocked by a Republican congress which will appear to many of the uninformed that he "did not fulfil his promise" which will of course lose him some support.

As for the tax promise...I thought he only promised not to raise taxes on the middle class. At the very least, I thought he was pretty clear in that he was going to roll back the Bush tax cuts. But, with the fat deficit here...something's going to have to give sooner or later.

 

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