If I Only had a Brain...

[BonzaiDuck]

You have too much courage than I do. Not in a million years am I going to inject anything in my nasal cavity. Nope. Too risky.

It just pushes salt water in one nostril and out the other. Salt Water! I don't see any risk with that. In and out. You just close your mouth, push the button and feel it work. The spent salt-water ends up in a reservoir with the boogers and snot. Pour it out, rinse the reservoir -- DONE.

There was a time when I had an abscess in my gum -- an infection. Such infections then cause inflammation of the sinuses, which then clog up with mucous and create pain and sinus headache. Until I got to the dentist, I was using the NAVAGE regularly to clear the sinuses and eliminate -- temporarily -- the pain.

 

[igor_kavinski]

There was a time when I had an abscess in my gum -- an infection. Such infections then cause inflammation of the sinuses, which then clog up with mucous and create pain and sinus headache. Until I got to the dentist, I was using the NAVAGE regularly to clear the sinuses and eliminate -- temporarily -- the pain.

You are adventurous. More than the typical person

 

[BonzaiDuck]

You are adventurous. More than the typical person

I would urge you to spend the Benjamin and try it. I believe you would be pleasantly surprised. If you ever went swimming and got water in your nose, the salt-water flush is much more pleasant than that.

Anyway -- that's it. Talking about it over a few exchanges here, I'm going to DO IT this morning. It hadn't been a regular habit of mine for a while.

 

[igor_kavinski]

If you ever went swimming and got water in your nose, the salt-water flush is much more pleasant than that.

Ah. That explains it. I can't swim. The few times I've got water down my nose, I did not enjoy it one bit. Can't imagine forcing any water through my nasal cavity, let alone salt water.

And I know you mean well but I don't intend to try it ever. I may experiment with supplements but not with water going into any orifices. Once had some insect buzz inside my ear. Remedy called for pouring warm oil into the ear. I decided that was too risky so poured some water instead. Got an ear infection for which had to see the doctor. Never again.

 

[balloonshark]

I was using regular nose drops and night but during the day my nose would swell and I had trouble breathing. I saw an ENT and he put me on Flonase and told me to wait 15 minutes and then use regular nose drops. I'm supposed to be taking the drops twice daily but only do it before bed. He also recommended that I irrigate my sinuses twice a week.

I've used the squeeze type of irrigation but you can't use it if your nose is clogged. I accidentally did that and it hurt my ears. I'm currently using a netti pot and I make my own saline solution.

Irrigation feels weird at first but if you keep your mouth open (*Navage may be different) and keep your head tilted forward and to the side you should be fine. Sometimes the solution gets in your mouth. Just spit it out if that happens.

Make sure to use distilled water and saline solution!

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I was using regular nose drops and night but during the day my nose would swell and I had trouble breathing. I saw an ENT and he put me on Flonase and told me to wait 15 minutes and then use regular nose drops. I'm supposed to be taking the drops twice daily but only do it before bed. He also recommended that I irrigate my sinuses twice a week.

I've used the squeeze type of irrigation but you can't use it if your nose is clogged. I accidentally did that and it hurt my ears. I'm currently using a netti pot and I make my own saline solution.

Irrigation feels weird at first but if you keep your mouth open (*Navage may be different) and keep your head tilted forward and to the side you should be fine. Sometimes the solution gets in your mouth. Just spit it out if that happens.

Make sure to use distilled water and saline solution!

I actually came to think it felt pleasant. The saline goes in one nostril and out the other, and there aren't any uncomfortable effects. You're not going to choke. It's just saline water going in, and saline with boogers and snot going out.

The worst that ever happened to me was from warming the water too much. So 35 seconds in the microwave and no more.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Who is this "nexgi1" -- interrupting our discussion about BoomerD's health with his "Webcam Girls Live" post?

 

[balloonshark]

I actually came to think it felt pleasant. The saline goes in one nostril and out the other, and there aren't any uncomfortable effects. You're not going to choke. It's just saline water going in, and saline with boogers and snot going out.

The worst that ever happened to me was from warming the water too much. So 35 seconds in the microwave and no more.

It does feel a bit foreign when you start the process but that feeling goes away super quick. I also microwave the distilled water for 30 or so seconds. I think my microwave is 1000 watts.

 

[lxskllr]

Neti pots are a thing, and pretty cheap. Same deal. Flushes out the nose. You should be careful putting liquids deep in your head. Distilled water's a good idea. It's unlikely anything would happen from tap water, but there's a non zero chance you'll introduce something nasty, especially if you're on a well.

I've personally never used one, but they're known by the nasal snuff crowd. I wouldn't say they're widely used there or popular, but they're known.

 

[esquared]

These are also cheaper than neti pots.
I have them and used them for a couple months when I had a bad sinus infection.

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[esquared]

This is the video I watched to learn the proper way to flush.
Good video.

 

[BoomerD]

I think the woman in the Flonase commercial has nice gams.

But here's another suggestion. NAVAGE

You have to buy (order from Amazon, etc.) the salt-water pods, and there's no way to mix your own and load the NAVAGE with it. But -- not expensive, and it works great.

When you use it, warm up 225 to 275 ml of water in the microwave for NO MORE than 35 seconds, then fill the NAVAGE and insert the sealed salt-water pod. The nasal attachment can reverse the flow by twisting it 180-degrees. If the saltwater solution seems yet too warm, then let it rest for about 3 to 5 minutes and resume your nasal flush. This thing will help keep your sinuses clear, and reduce nasal obstructions like BOOGERS and SNOT. 👌

The device could cost as much as $100, but I bought mine in 2019 and it's still working great.

As for the ice-cream problem, what's wrong with Sherbet? Orange? Lime? Strawberry?

Nope, nope, nope...tried a Neti pot...25-30 years ago. Felt like I was gonna drown myself. Not trying again.
She can eat Sherbet...but doesn't really care for it. There are some lactose-free ice creams on the market, some made with coconut milk and the like. Not particularly appetizing for her...and since I don't have the lactose problem...I AIN"T EATING THAT SH*T!

 

[igor_kavinski]

Not particularly appetizing for her...and since I don't have the lactose problem...I AIN"T EATING THAT SH*T!

Why isn't she taking lactase?

 

[BoomerD]

For those advocating neti pots and the like...I suppose it can work well if done right...but occasionally something like this pops up:

What to know about another dangerous amoeba linked to neti pots and nasal rinsing

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday published a report that for the first time connects Acanthamoeba infections to use of neti pots and other nasal rinsing devices.

www.pbs.org

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/03/1160980794/neti-pot-safety-brain-eating-amoeba

I mean...as the title of this thread indicates...a brain-eating amoeba would starve to death...but it might adapt to something else.

 

[lxskllr]

Yea, that's why I mentioned distilled water. It never hurts, and I'd be especially cautious if I lived in third world(south USA).

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Nope, nope, nope...tried a Neti pot...25-30 years ago. Felt like I was gonna drown myself. Not trying again.
She can eat Sherbet...but doesn't really care for it. There are some lactose-free ice creams on the market, some made with coconut milk and the like. Not particularly appetizing for her...and since I don't have the lactose problem...I AIN"T EATING THAT SH*T!

That NETI Pot thing doesn't seem to work the same way. The NAVAGE gently forces water into one nostril and sucks it out the other. I'm guessing it's a totally different experience, and even not as messy. But -- each to his own.

 

[esquared]

That NETI Pot thing doesn't seem to work the same way. The NAVAGE gently forces water into one nostril and sucks it out the other. I'm guessing it's a totally different experience, and even not as messy. But -- each to his own.

Going from nostril to nostril is easy. What that doesn't do is clear the mucous from post nasal drip that happens when you have a sinus infection
Clearing your nostrils doesn't clear the mucous in your throat.

The video I linked to above shows how to pour the liquid in your nose and have it come out your mouth. Sounds hard but its really not.
Watch the video, its about 4 minutes long.
Post #86.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Going from nostril to nostril is easy. What that doesn't do is clear the mucous from post nasal drip that happens when you have a sinus infection
Clearing your nostrils doesn't clear the mucous in your throat.

The video I linked to above shows how to pour the liquid in your nose and have it come out your mouth. Sounds hard but its really not.
Watch the video, its about 4 minutes long.
Post #86.

Actually, it helps do that as well. I can't explain it, but there's no post nasal drip to make a drip. the saline is going in one nostril, into the nasal cavity and out the other nostril. That's the way it seems to work.

I'm not aggressively promoting NAVAGE, but I use it, and it keeps me clear. I don't have sinus infections anymore. It's been about five years with NAVAGE and "none".

 

[BoomerD]

So…a couple of months ago, “She Who Must Be Obeyed” demanded I talk to my doc about some odd pain and weakness in my lower legs. He sent me for an “ an “Ankle Brachial Index” test. Basically, it compares blood pressure between the ankles and arms. Diagnosis “suggests” possible peripheral artery disease. I guess being fat might not be good for you after all.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I guess being fat might not be good for you after all.

You might be addicted to eating some stuff that's not good for you. The solution is to obviously cut back on that stuff slowly, increasing the time period between meals gradually, until you can manage 36 hours or more between meals. Once your body gets used to using up its fat stores, you will stop feeling hunger that much and you will kinda feel like you have some superpower where food isn't as important for you as it is for some other people. I kinda chuckle at people who eat three meals a day, worrying that skipping a meal might affect their health or special bodily functions like sex drive etc. Well, they are mostly the ones who are overweight. Go figure.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

You might be addicted to eating some stuff that's not good for you. The solution is to obviously cut back on that stuff slowly, increasing the time period between meals gradually, until you can manage 36 hours or more between meals. Once your body gets used to using up its fat stores, you will stop feeling hunger that much and you will kinda feel like you have some superpower where food isn't as important for you as it is for some other people. I kinda chuckle at people who eat three meals a day, worrying that skipping a meal might affect their health or special bodily functions like sex drive etc. Well, they are mostly the ones who are overweight. Go figure.

I probably agree with that. I had always had a ravenous appetite when I was younger, and with a fast metabolism, never came close to obesity. Today, my BMI is too close to the obesity threshold, but receding.

Long ago and after my retirement, I became a "snacker". Last night I fixed 5 lbs of chuck roast in a pot roast with small potatoes, pearl onions, shallots, carrots, celery and Anaheim peppers. Now that my diabetes meds have been doubled, I'm not so shy about red meat.

I became worried about the possibility of peripheral artery disease, but my walking regimen has eliminated that worry. At least for now.

Boomer -- are you capable of regular walking exercise? I worry about friends with ankle-joint problems so severe that their mobility is limited. One friend in that category tells me that some gyms have equipment that helps circumvent these disabilities.