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mindless1

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Nah, alcohol isn't the cause...but it might trigger something. I rarely ever drink.
So possible solutions are bouncing off of you and not considered as something to try? Now I feel like someone pushing 15 year old chamomile tea. :)

Note that I was only mentioning alcohol as evidence that you might have a vasodilation issue, that most people don't get headaches from a couple drinks, and that you are consuming the coffee that has this effect too. The key is to understand what is happening through causative agents and make as many positive changes as possible. That might not be a miracle cure, but could help.

People who haven't been in a spine injuring event may be able to do things that you can't, that it's the cumulative effect. It doesn't matter what the average person can do, only the cause and effect on your well being.

I would keep careful logs of all factors mentioned. This has gone on long enough and you deserve some remedy. If doctors aren't helping then what remains besides DIY? Asking here? Okay, here we are,. though an appropriate group on reddit might have more expertise in this.

Just sayin', you seem to be passive at this point but you started the topic.
 

BoomerD

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So possible solutions are bouncing off of you and not considered as something to try? Now I feel like someone pushing 15 year old chamomile tea. :)

Note that I was only mentioning alcohol as evidence that you might have a vasodilation issue, that most people don't get headaches from a couple drinks, and that you are consuming the coffee that has this effect too. The key is to understand what is happening through causative agents and make as many positive changes as possible. That might not be a miracle cure, but could help.

People who haven't been in a spine injuring event may be able to do things that you can't, that it's the cumulative effect. It doesn't matter what the average person can do, only the cause and effect on your well being.

I would keep careful logs of all factors mentioned. This has gone on long enough and you deserve some remedy. If doctors aren't helping then what remains besides DIY? Asking here? Okay, here we are,. though an appropriate group on reddit might have more expertise in this.

Just sayin', you seem to be passive at this point but you started the topic.
Passive? I dunno about that, but at this point, I've just about given up on finding an actual medical cause. COULD some of it be from vasodilation? I suppose so, but the symptoms don't really point at that. (although the caffeine being a "fix" albeit a temporary one, does indicate that it MIGHT be)
 

BonzaiDuck

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Vasodilation doesn't seem to logically implicate such symptoms, or you would think it would work to the better and not to worsen the symptoms you experience.

You would also have considered and then dismissed sinus congestion -- at least by now. But if otherwise, obtain a Navage device and flush your sinuses with warm salt-water. Or just see if it makes you feel better.

I wouldn't otherwise possibly know what would resolve the cause of your pain or otherwise relieve it.
 

mindless1

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Passive? I dunno about that, but at this point, I've just about given up on finding an actual medical cause.

That's what makes it passive.

I wish you luck but I'd leave no stone unturned if I was going through that, it would be my #1 mission all day long.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Just me, but I can imagine having Boomer's symptoms and trying a couple Tramadol tabs and a THC gummi.

I'm not recommending it; I just think I might try it myself.
 
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I would recommend 5-day Avocado fast but I don't know how seniors deal with artificial starvation...

(The MUFAs in Avocado will fuel the brain but the rest of the body will have to depend on its fat stores and autophagy so even if he doesn't feel hungry, his body will be working in starvation mode)
 

jmagg

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Small amounts of medical cannabis helps my chronic pain greatly. Might be something to look into if you haven't already.
 
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BoomerD

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Small amounts of medical cannabis helps my chronic pain greatly. Might be something to look into if you haven't already.
Nah, the magic herb ain't for me. I despise the smell and taste, and DO NOT like the buzz.

Just me, but I can imagine having Boomer's symptoms and trying a couple Tramadol tabs and a THC gummi.

I'm not recommending it; I just think I might try it myself.
Tramadol is a low-level opioid. So far, the only thing they do is make me stupider than normal. (and I'm allergic to codeine and hydrocodone/vicodin. (but CAN take them with benadryl) However, they don't really do anything for the headaches. Not a fan or believer in CBD or THC.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Dear gawd...my neck already makes a wide range of cracks and pops when I move it...I can't imagine the sounds it would make if I did that. :oops:
Do you walk for exercise? If you do an hour's walk in the morning, is your pain worse or better for the remainder of the day?
 

jmagg

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I also use Meloxicam, which is a NSAID . It's the only anti-inflammatory that doesn't affect my gut and works well. It seems to somewhat mute the clicks and pops.
 

BoomerD

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Do you walk for exercise? If you do an hour's walk in the morning, is your pain worse or better for the remainder of the day?
I wish I could walk for an hour...15 minutes and I'm calling a cab for a ride home. (wife doesn't drive since her stroke)
 

BonzaiDuck

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I wish I could walk for an hour...15 minutes and I'm calling a cab for a ride home. (wife doesn't drive since her stroke)
Do you have COPD like I do? They say someone over 70 should be able to do a mile in 20 minutes. On a good day, I do it in 30. Other times -- 35. I suppose if I take a nice rest, I could do a second mile -- and I've done that.

This sort of scares me. I saw my lung function improve over the last year and a half. I'll have to evaluate a bit more before I conclude I can still get better.
 

BoomerD

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Because of sweating? Maybe wear something with a more breathable fabric for yourDo you have COPD like I do? They say someone over 70 should be able to do a mile in 20 minutes. On a good day, I do it in 30. Other times -- 35. I suppose if I take a nice rest, I could do a second mile -- and I've done that.
LOL...no. Because of fucked up knees and back.

This sort of scares me. I saw my lung function improve over the last year and a half. I'll have to evaluate a bit more before I conclude I can still get better.
No COPD that I know of...I actually breathe pretty well...for a fat man. Just fucked up knees and back. I can't walk through a grocery store more than a little bit. I have to have one of the "cripple carts" when we do our regular shopping.
 
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I can't walk through a grocery store more than a little bit. I have to have one of the "cripple carts" when we do our regular shopping.
You need to find the will to avoid further disability. Eat smaller meals. Reduce calories gradually till you get to 1500 per day. Stay there for a week or two. Then do a few cheat days if you want. Rinse. Repeat. You will start feeling the difference. I was down for 23 hours with such bad headache that I didn't eat or drink anything. My mobility actually improved.
 

BonzaiDuck

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LOL...no. Because of fucked up knees and back.


No COPD that I know of...I actually breathe pretty well...for a fat man. Just fucked up knees and back. I can't walk through a grocery store more than a little bit. I have to have one of the "cripple carts" when we do our regular shopping.
Igor gives good advice, but at our age, we may not have the stamina or endurance to follow it. Myself -- I offer you the suggestion to get a big bottle of Glucosamine Chondroitin at COSTCO, and take the recommended two tabs daily.

There's no other explanation in my own regard: After a cortisone shot in my knuckle for temporary relief of Trigger Finger last October, the TF came back. The Glucosamine can only be the singular means by which I got rid of it. I don't do finger exercises or more than I've ever done on this keyboard. My diet hasn't changed that much. It has to be the Glucosamine. I only have some hope that it might help with your knees and back.

If you try it and it doesn't work for you, well -- it won't hurt you. I think that quantity of the tablets has a price-tag of around $30. I just ordered a fresh bottle after six months religiously popping the two per day.
 
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BoomerD

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Catch-22. You need 90 minutes walk daily to REDUCE your backpain.


Knees? Try long stretches of backward walking.
Not sure what backwards walking will do for blown ACL and meniscus in both knees...

You need to find the will to avoid further disability. Eat smaller meals. Reduce calories gradually till you get to 1500 per day. Stay there for a week or two. Then do a few cheat days if you want. Rinse. Repeat. You will start feeling the difference. I was down for 23 hours with such bad headache that I didn't eat or drink anything. My mobility actually improved.
Sheesh...you sound like my doctor. I don't pay any attention to what he says either. :p

Igor gives good advice, but at our age, we may not have the stamina or endurance to follow it. Myself -- I offer you the suggestion to get a big bottle of Glucosamine Chondroitin at COSTCO, and take the recommended two tabs daily.

There's no other explanation in my own regard: After a cortisone shot in my knuckle for temporary relief of Trigger Finger last October, the TF came back. The Glucosamine can only be the singular means by which I got rid of it. I don't do finger exercises or more than I've ever done on this keyboard. My diet hasn't changed that much. It has to be the Glucosamine. I only have some hope that it might help with your knees and back.

If you try it and it doesn't work for you, well -- it won't hurt you. I think that quantity of the tablets has a price-tag of around $30. I just ordered a fresh bottle after six months religiously popping the two per day.

I've tried the glucosamine/chondroitin regimen before. Didn't seem to do much...so I quit...probably after a couple of weeks. (wait...what did you say about stamina and endurance? :p )
Unfortunately, I know pretty much what's wrong with the knees. I had an ACL graft and meniscectomy in 2004...the graft failed about 5 years ago...and the cartilage in the knee just keeps getting worse. (it was already almost bone-on-bone after the surgery) The other knee...torn ACL and meniscus tears.
 
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I've tried the glucosamine/chondroitin regimen before. Didn't seem to do much...so I quit...probably after a couple of weeks
Can you commit to supplemental powdered bone broth soup? Any good brand you can find. Take it regularly. And do the backward walking. The body has immense capability to heal. You just need to trust it. And perseverance is key.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Can you commit to supplemental powdered bone broth soup? Any good brand you can find. Take it regularly. And do the backward walking. The body has immense capability to heal. You just need to trust it. And perseverance is key.
What he describes is probably beyond improvement with bone broth or glucosamine. I CAN say that I noticed the disappearance of my Trigger Finger about three weeks or so into my use of the supplement, but he needs more attentions -- possibly surgery? -- to fix his knee.
 

Greenman

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Can you commit to supplemental powdered bone broth soup? Any good brand you can find. Take it regularly. And do the backward walking. The body has immense capability to heal. You just need to trust it. And perseverance is key.
It's wreaked knees. There is no juice or dust that's going repair a shredded meniscus. I'll also note that walking backward is a bad idea for old people.