If I go into McDonald's and order a large fry....

[SaltyNuts]

but I tell them I want the fries RAW, straight out the bag, do they have to sell them to me? I saw some pure 100% lard the other day at the store (honestly I don't think I've seen that for like 30 years, but I never looked for it either I suppose), and I want to get their raw fries and cook them up in some lard to see if I can recall the taste of the days before they betrayed us and switched to crummy vegetable oils and crap.

If they will sell them to me raw, anything else besides the lard that I need to try and recreate the full experience? Any special type of "salt" or anything else they use? Any special temperature to cook them at? I want the PERFECT 1982 MickeyD's french fries....

Thank you!!!

 

[Torn Mind]

The actual fat they used was beef tallow.

 

[SaltyNuts]

The actual fat they used was beef tallow.

FUK, its never fuking easy. International transport, purified free fatty acids, McD's fries, it doesn't matter, it always has to be difficult for some reason. I'm sure beef tallow costs like twice as much LOL. Can I at least get that at a supermarket?

 

[Torn Mind]

FUK, its never fuking easy. International transport, purified free fatty acids, McD's fries, it doesn't matter, it always has to be difficult for some reason. I'm sure beef tallow costs like twice as much LOL. Can I at least get that at a supermarket?

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Would be worth it to shift to home cooked fries in saturated fat since the vegetable oils in McDs are subjected to treatment that will make the veggie oils oxidized, rancid, and full of cancerous and inflammatory byproducts.

And McDonalds is poor value for the money anyway.

 

[SaltyNuts]

Thank you Torn Mind! I guess step one is for me to try and get the fries in their raw form, and presumably they will be OK in my freezer for a few days (wrapped in aluminum foil) while I order the beef tallow and wait for it to arrive? Thanks!!!

 

[SaltyNuts]

By the way, why do you say McD's is bad value for the money Torn Mind? If I can get a Double stack and fries for $2, how is that a bad value? You mean as compared if you made it all at home? I would get that, but compared to any other restaurants its at LEAST a decent value, no?

Thanks!!!

 

[sdifox]

You have a better chance of getting a gallon of Margarita from McD than their uncooked fries.

 

[brianmanahan]

what in the

 

[Torn Mind]

By the way, why do you say McD's is bad value for the money Torn Mind? If I can get a Double stack and fries for $2, how is that a bad value? You mean as compared if you made it all at home? I would get that, but compared to any other restaurants its at LEAST a decent value, no?

Thanks!!!

Yeah, I was mainly referring to home cooked and other supplies bought from the grocery store.

I wasn't aware of that promotion, but from a price per dollar standpoint, it indeed isn't bad; They're probably selling it at or below cost.

 

[rmacd02]

Uh, wouldn't McDonald's raw fries be just plain raw cut potatoes? Don't know why you'd spend extra for them at McDonald's.

 

[WelshBloke]

You have a better chance of getting a gallon of Margherita from McD than their uncooked fries.

Yeah. I'd imagine that fast food places probably aren't that keen on selling raw product from a liability POV!
Mind you if you're looking for an employee that DGAF then MacDonalds is probably the place to try!

 

[Iron Woode]

If I go into KFC and order Chicken....

but I tell them I want the chicken RAW, straight out the bag, do they have to sell them to me? I saw some pure 100% lard the other day at the store (honestly I don't think I've seen that for like 30 years, but I never looked for it either I suppose), and I want to get their raw chicken and cook them up in some lard to see if I can recall the taste of the days before they betrayed us and switched to crummy vegetable oils and crap.

If they will sell them to me raw, anything else besides the lard that I need to try and recreate the full experience? Any special type of "salt" or anything else they use? Any special temperature to cook them at? I want the PERFECT 1982 KFC chicken....

Thank you!!!

That's how stupid this thread is.

 

[DigDog]

you can make yourself better mcd fries than mcd can.
1. potatoes, cut
2. briefly cook in 190f water - use beef stock cubes to add taste; you can also add sugar.
3. when soft but not breaking apart (varies based on potato type) pull and cool, then freeze
4. fry

freezing is fundamental, it lacerates the cell walls even further, allowing the hot oil to seep into the fry and the water vapour to readily escape.
this shit is loaded with fat and horribly bad for you.

 

[sdifox]

Yeah. I'd imagine that fast food places probably aren't that keen on selling raw product from a liability POV!
Mind you if you're looking for an employee that DGAF then MacDonalds is probably the place to try!

You missed this gem I guess?

Taco Cabana FREAKING SUCKS....

I go there tonight. Drive through. They have some guy there taking the order on some tablet, you don't even get up to the menu with the speaker like has been the case at drive throughs for centuries. So I order some fajitas, half pound beef, half pound chicken. Some refried beans (they don't...

forums.anandtech.com

 

[zinfamous]

FUK, its never fuking easy. International transport, purified free fatty acids, McD's fries, it doesn't matter, it always has to be difficult for some reason. I'm sure beef tallow costs like twice as much LOL. Can I at least get that at a supermarket?

beef tallow is 1000x easier to make than your stupid and useless fatty acid soap project.

Why not just make that?

 

[zinfamous]

Uh, wouldn't McDonald's raw fries be just plain raw cut potatoes? Don't know why you'd spend extra for them at McDonald's.

no, they'd likely be seasoned, boiled, and then frozen first. plain raw potatoes tossed into hot oil is not how you make fries. That's why In n Out makes the objectively worst fries in the business.

See DigDog's post above.

 

[Torn Mind]

Uh, wouldn't McDonald's raw fries be just plain raw cut potatoes? Don't know why you'd spend extra for them at McDonald's.

Not quite. As zin and DigDog mentioned above, there's a bit more than that. McD's actually has put the entire process out to the public now.

McDonald's Reveals Exactly How Your Beloved Fries Are Made

abcnews.go.com

.

 

[MrSquished]

You can wash potatoes, cut them, but then you gotta soak them in water for a while to remove starch. Then you can drain them, rinse them off, and fry them up. We did a double fry - five guys does a double fry.

 

[Captante]

what in the

OP's user-name is also a remarkably apt description of his mental state?

 

[Captante]

You can wash potatoes, cut them, but then you gotta soak them in water for a while to remove starch. Then you can drain them, rinse them off, and fry them up. We did a double fry - five guys does a double fry.

I've made fries at home literally thousands of times and I've almost never bothered using anything but potatoes, oil and salt. (I add seasoning post cooking)

Boiling/soaking sliced potatoes prior to deep-frying is not required to make fries... straight from the cutting board into the pre-heated oil comes out great. If things are getting burned/blackened in the fryer the oil is too hot.

To be fair I'm not trying to copy McDog's wimpy shoe-string style fries though.

 

[Torn Mind]

OP's user-name is also a remarkably apt description of his mental state?

Actually, wanting to make a homemade and healthier version...if not better version...of one of the finest-tasting junk foods in the world is not that nutty, especially once you realize the chemicals that arise from subjecting veggie oil to heat in the restaurant version will give anyone pause.

Frontiers | “Real-World” Evaluation of Lipid Oxidation Products and Trace Metals in French Fries From Two Chain Fast-Food Restaurants

The differences in lipid oxidation product and heavy metal concentrations of French fry samples found between two fast-food restaurants in the UK were invest...

www.frontiersin.org

 

[Captante]

Actually, wanting to make a homemade and healthier version...if not better version...of one of the finest-tasting junk foods in the world is not that nutty, especially once you realize the chemicals that arise from subjecting veggie oil to heat in the restaurant version will give anyone pause.

Frontiers | “Real-World” Evaluation of Lipid Oxidation Products and Trace Metals in French Fries From Two Chain Fast-Food Restaurants

The differences in lipid oxidation product and heavy metal concentrations of French fry samples found between two fast-food restaurants in the UK were invest...

www.frontiersin.org

This being one of OP's "saner" contributions has no bearing on my thinking here!

And even the healthiest fries possible are still terrible for you. (sorry ... this makes me sad too!)

 

[MrSquished]

Better off just cutting your own fries, soaking them, and getting the beef tallow for frying purposes.

 

[Torn Mind]

This being one of OP's "saner" contributions has no bearing on my thinking here!

And even the healthiest fries possible are still terrible for you.

Depends on the context. If you're already far gone and got insulin resistance and/or damaged insides, the starch bomb+fat will not help matters.

But homemade fries will still grant a lot of the vitamins in the potatoes and "fat" used. Like if you use grass-fed butter for the frying, the fat soluble vitamins would be present.

I have teeth concerns, so I'd avoid the fries due to the starch content, not the fat content. Or if I do eat them, many would consider me bizarre if I cut them up further with knife and fork before swallowing whole.

If anything, eating fatty has not harmed me in the slightest. My triglyceride/HDL ratio has improved from 1.7 down two years ago to 1.2 this year. But I only eat micronutrient-nutritious, non-inflammatory fatty foods like pasture-raised eggs, grass-fed butter, fatty fish, the occasional 73% lean/27% fat ground beef.

 

[Captante]

Depends on the context. If you're already far gone and got insulin resistance and/or damaged insides, the starch bomb+fat will not help matters.

But homemade fries will still grant a lot of the vitamins in the potatoes and "fat" used. Like if you use grass-fed butter for the frying, the fat soluble vitamins would be present.

I have teeth concerns, so I'd avoid the fries due to the starch content, not the fat content. Or if I do eat them, many would consider me bizarre if I cut them up further with knife and fork before swallowing whole.

If anything, eating fatty has not harmed me in the slightest. My triglyceride/HDL ratio has improved from 1.7 down two years ago to 1.2 this year. But I only eat micronutrient-nutritious, non-inflammatory fatty foods like pasture-raised eggs, grass-fed butter, fatty fish, the occasional 73% lean/27% fat ground beef.

I prefer my fries in peanut oil personally although I rarely eat potatoes (aside from baked) or really deep-fried food of any kind for that matter.

The other thing I find potatoes do no matter how they're prepared is aggravate the neuropathy in my feet like no other food does causing pain and cramping when trying to sleep. This is possibly due to a blood-sugar spike per my MD however pasta/other carbs don't have the same effect at all.