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If elected, which John McCain will become president?
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Vic
Elite Member
We could talk IF's forever.
If all McCain was talking about was a military base in Basra, he might have my support.
But he's not, and it's intentionally misleading on his part to pretend that he is when his actual agenda from his own website is Surge Part II.
It makes me wonder... will we still be talking about military bases while our bombs are falling on Tehran?
bamacre
Lifer
Getting a war in Iraq was easy as pie for Bush. The Dem's were pissing in their pants at the idea.
And getting it past these people, well, McCain won't have any problems here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig
I'm not sure but McCain is far worse than Kerry and its been so blatant and shameful that people that supported him in 2000 must be appalled at what he's doing. He's simply unpredictable at this point and with Lieberman acting as his minder, only bad things can come from his administration.
ProfJohn
Lifer
I think McCain could be a far more successful President than you liberals think.
He has a record of working with Democrats to accomplish stuff. The people in congress will remember this and will work with McCain to get bills passed.
Obama on the other hand has no track record of working with Republicans which means the Republicans in congress are going to be far less likely to want to listen to Obama or work with him. This could result in grid lock in which nothing meaningful gets done.
There is historical precedence to what I say.
During Clinton's first two years the Republicans refused to work with and the results were a disaster for the Democrats in the 1994 election. Afterwards Clinton worked with the new Republican leadership and a lot was accomplished.
Post 9-11 Republicans and Democrats worked together to pass a lot of bills, but post 2004 election things with the war got bitter and nothing meaningful has come out of Bush's second term.
He has a record of working with Democrats to accomplish stuff. The people in congress will remember this and will work with McCain to get bills passed.
Obama on the other hand has no track record of working with Republicans which means the Republicans in congress are going to be far less likely to want to listen to Obama or work with him. This could result in grid lock in which nothing meaningful gets done.
There is historical precedence to what I say.
During Clinton's first two years the Republicans refused to work with and the results were a disaster for the Democrats in the 1994 election. Afterwards Clinton worked with the new Republican leadership and a lot was accomplished.
Post 9-11 Republicans and Democrats worked together to pass a lot of bills, but post 2004 election things with the war got bitter and nothing meaningful has come out of Bush's second term.
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