We could talk IF's forever.Originally posted by: Genx87
If peace existed in Iraq tomorrow we would be in Iraq for years if not decades to come. Our sphere of influence is nearly everywhere.
I disagree he was intentionally misleading. He was very clear in what he meant and that was not 100 years of war but 100 years of presence in a volatile and strategically important part of the world.Originally posted by: Vic
I'm sure that has something to do with the fact that situation in Iraq is not similar to that in Japan, Germany, or SK.
So, it's not that McCain's comments were incorrectly attributed, but that he was being intentionally misleading in his use of analogy.
You honestly believe McCain wants and thinks we will be fighting for 100 years? A 100 year war? Give me a break.Originally posted by: Vic
We could talk IF's forever.Originally posted by: Genx87
If peace existed in Iraq tomorrow we would be in Iraq for years if not decades to come. Our sphere of influence is nearly everywhere.
If all McCain was talking about was a military base in Basra, he might have my support.
But he's not, and it's intentionally misleading on his part to pretend that he is when his actual agenda from his own website is Surge Part II.
It makes me wonder... will we still be talking about military bases while our bombs are falling on Tehran?
Sigh... no, I don't.Originally posted by: Genx87
You honestly believe McCain wants and thinks we will be fighting for 100 years? A 100 year war? Give me a break.Originally posted by: Vic
We could talk IF's forever.Originally posted by: Genx87
If peace existed in Iraq tomorrow we would be in Iraq for years if not decades to come. Our sphere of influence is nearly everywhere.
If all McCain was talking about was a military base in Basra, he might have my support.
But he's not, and it's intentionally misleading on his part to pretend that he is when his actual agenda from his own website is Surge Part II.
It makes me wonder... will we still be talking about military bases while our bombs are falling on Tehran?
:laugh: :thumbsup:Originally posted by: Vic
Whoa, looks it must have been "hacked" by liberals...
I think he wants to surge in Iraq. Going after Iran I highly doubt. I just dont see how he would get that by a Democratic congress or the American people.Originally posted by: Vic
Sigh... no, I don't.Originally posted by: Genx87
You honestly believe McCain wants and thinks we will be fighting for 100 years? A 100 year war? Give me a break.Originally posted by: Vic
We could talk IF's forever.Originally posted by: Genx87
If peace existed in Iraq tomorrow we would be in Iraq for years if not decades to come. Our sphere of influence is nearly everywhere.
If all McCain was talking about was a military base in Basra, he might have my support.
But he's not, and it's intentionally misleading on his part to pretend that he is when his actual agenda from his own website is Surge Part II.
It makes me wonder... will we still be talking about military bases while our bombs are falling on Tehran?
What I really believe is that he wants to escalate the already unpopular conflict in the ME while at the same time fooling the American people into believing that it would be no different than our bases in Japan, Germany, and SK.
Getting a war in Iraq was easy as pie for Bush. The Dem's were pissing in their pants at the idea.Originally posted by: Genx87
Going after Iran I highly doubt. I just dont see how he would get that by a Democratic congress or the American people.
The point is that he would if he could.Originally posted by: Genx87
I think he wants to surge in Iraq. Going after Iran I highly doubt. I just dont see how he would get that by a Democratic congress or the American people.Originally posted by: Vic
Sigh... no, I don't.Originally posted by: Genx87
You honestly believe McCain wants and thinks we will be fighting for 100 years? A 100 year war? Give me a break.Originally posted by: Vic
We could talk IF's forever.Originally posted by: Genx87
If peace existed in Iraq tomorrow we would be in Iraq for years if not decades to come. Our sphere of influence is nearly everywhere.
If all McCain was talking about was a military base in Basra, he might have my support.
But he's not, and it's intentionally misleading on his part to pretend that he is when his actual agenda from his own website is Surge Part II.
It makes me wonder... will we still be talking about military bases while our bombs are falling on Tehran?
What I really believe is that he wants to escalate the already unpopular conflict in the ME while at the same time fooling the American people into believing that it would be no different than our bases in Japan, Germany, and SK.
This was hot off the heels of 9-11. After 6+ years of occupation that is clearly unpopular. The Dems would have to commit politcal suicide to grant any wish McCain "may" have at striking Iran.Originally posted by: bamacre
Getting a war in Iraq was easy as pie for Bush. The Dem's were pissing in their pants at the idea.Originally posted by: Genx87
Going after Iran I highly doubt. I just dont see how he would get that by a Democratic congress or the American people.
And getting it past these people, well, McCain won't have any problems here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig
I am saying if he truely wants to attack Iran(I dont really believe he does unless provoked) he cant.Originally posted by: Vic
The point is that he would if he could.Originally posted by: Genx87
I think he wants to surge in Iraq. Going after Iran I highly doubt. I just dont see how he would get that by a Democratic congress or the American people.Originally posted by: Vic
Sigh... no, I don't.Originally posted by: Genx87
You honestly believe McCain wants and thinks we will be fighting for 100 years? A 100 year war? Give me a break.Originally posted by: Vic
We could talk IF's forever.Originally posted by: Genx87
If peace existed in Iraq tomorrow we would be in Iraq for years if not decades to come. Our sphere of influence is nearly everywhere.
If all McCain was talking about was a military base in Basra, he might have my support.
But he's not, and it's intentionally misleading on his part to pretend that he is when his actual agenda from his own website is Surge Part II.
It makes me wonder... will we still be talking about military bases while our bombs are falling on Tehran?
What I really believe is that he wants to escalate the already unpopular conflict in the ME while at the same time fooling the American people into believing that it would be no different than our bases in Japan, Germany, and SK.
QFT!Originally posted by: bamacre
I hope we never find out.
So you're saying that "Straight Talk Express" is bent, broken and shattered.Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Hmm, sounds like he might be a politician.
If the question is about Obama, yes. If it's about Hillary, the answer is no.Are you suggesting the candidate you support is above that?
With Lieberman's hand up his ass, I don't think he'll need too hard an evidence to attack Iran.Originally posted by: Genx87
I am saying if he truely wants to attack Iran(I dont really believe he does unless provoked) he cant.Originally posted by: Vic
The point is that he would if he could.Originally posted by: Genx87
I think he wants to surge in Iraq. Going after Iran I highly doubt. I just dont see how he would get that by a Democratic congress or the American people.Originally posted by: Vic
Sigh... no, I don't.Originally posted by: Genx87
You honestly believe McCain wants and thinks we will be fighting for 100 years? A 100 year war? Give me a break.Originally posted by: Vic
We could talk IF's forever.Originally posted by: Genx87
If peace existed in Iraq tomorrow we would be in Iraq for years if not decades to come. Our sphere of influence is nearly everywhere.
If all McCain was talking about was a military base in Basra, he might have my support.
But he's not, and it's intentionally misleading on his part to pretend that he is when his actual agenda from his own website is Surge Part II.
It makes me wonder... will we still be talking about military bases while our bombs are falling on Tehran?
What I really believe is that he wants to escalate the already unpopular conflict in the ME while at the same time fooling the American people into believing that it would be no different than our bases in Japan, Germany, and SK.
obama is above flip-flopping? doubt it.Originally posted by: Harvey
If the question is about Obama, yes. If it's about Hillary, the answer is no.
I'm not sure but McCain is far worse than Kerry and its been so blatant and shameful that people that supported him in 2000 must be appalled at what he's doing. He's simply unpredictable at this point and with Lieberman acting as his minder, only bad things can come from his administration.Originally posted by: ElFenix
obama is above flip-flopping? doubt it.Originally posted by: Harvey
If the question is about Obama, yes. If it's about Hillary, the answer is no.
I suggest you sniff at the 3 shit-piles again. McCain's only foreign policy is to drop bombs and his domestic agenda is non-existent.Originally posted by: Nebor
Doesn't matter. He's better than any of the alternatives. It's hold my nose and vote time.![]()
to get back to the OP, I hope it's the cute one.Originally posted by: Dari
which John McCain will become president?
He's a maverick. Don't you get that? A maverick.Originally posted by: Vic
I suggest you sniff at the 3 shit-piles again. McCain's only foreign policy is to drop bombs and his domestic agenda is non-existent.Originally posted by: Nebor
Doesn't matter. He's better than any of the alternatives. It's hold my nose and vote time.![]()
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Look who's trolling... again. Is that all you know?Originally posted by: Vic
The McSame who wants 100 years of war is the one who would become President.
Like James Garner or Mel Gibson?Originally posted by: Nebor
He's a maverick. Don't you get that? A maverick.Originally posted by: Vic
I suggest you sniff at the 3 shit-piles again. McCain's only foreign policy is to drop bombs and his domestic agenda is non-existent.Originally posted by: Nebor
Doesn't matter. He's better than any of the alternatives. It's hold my nose and vote time.![]()