If Big Tobacco decide they want to sell marijuana

[BoomerD]

They'd have to kill all the bible-thumpers who believe that all drugs are the tools of Satan before you'd ever get pot legalized...but alcohol is OK!

 

[TheGizmo]

wow you guys have no idea what you're talking about. i'm not even gonna bother with this thread.. go learn some facts before you open your fat mouths.

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: HotChic
If they could get it legalized, it'd be done already. Too much profit to be made.

Exactly...it's not for lack of desire, but ability.

Would be great though - divert our resources on the "war on drugs" to the more important drugs.

Oh but I know, marijuana is a gateway drug! Well, alcohol is a gateway to marijuana, coffee is a gateway to alcohol, soda is a gateway to coffee, water is a gateway to soda, and living is a gateway to water.

Therefore, lets ban life itself.

haha while I agree with you about points 1 and 2, I think that alcohol and marijuana are both gateway drugs if abused. To me it's not about physical addiction but the feeling. That being said I think pot should be legalized and taxed a lot so they can lower taxes for the rest of us and concentrate on meth and e like you stated.

They should allow Ecstasy to be used in clinics to treat psychological disorders like depression like they used to before they banned it. It works wonders.

 

[rbV5]

Why would big tobacco kill the golden goose?😉

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: Kanalua
mj (for the smoking and getting high) just does not have the historical backing that alcohol and tobacco do. Would never be widely legalized like alcohol and tobacco (or even peyote).

Actually cannabis has significant historical backing for all kinds of uses, especially as a medicine (including being smoked). The problem is that cannabis smoked for recreation has a historical background filled with lies and association with the 'wrong' types of people.

Before the reefer madness era it was mainly blacks and mexicans. Then in the 60/70's it was the counter culture hippies. The fact that it was associated with these people made it easy to demonize and play on white americas racial fears/prejudices.

To the op: I don't think it would matter if some powerful industry decided they wanted pot legal. There are to many other industries that don't, especially the prison and law enforcement "industry". I also doubt the alcohol industry would welcome the competition. Plus the the 'fact' that pot is associated with the 'wrong' crowd still lingers in the minds of many older conservatives.

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: rbV5
Why would big tobacco kill the golden goose?😉

They could probably make a killing off of pot and traditional cigs at the same time. I've noticed that a large percentage of pot smokers are also cigarette smokers. I think this might be because teenagers often try and cover up the smell of pot with cigarettes and eventually develop the habit.

The tobacco companies would most likely mix pot with tobacco and some other nasty ingredients like in modern cigs. This is actually a popular thing in places like england where they almost always mix pot and tobacco, theres a word for it but I can't recall what it is.

 

[Kanalua]

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: Kanalua
mj (for the smoking and getting high) just does not have the historical backing that alcohol and tobacco do. Would never be widely legalized like alcohol and tobacco (or even peyote).

Actually cannabis has significant historical backing for all kinds of uses, especially as a medicine (including being smoked). The problem is that cannabis smoked for recreation has a historical background filled with lies and association with the 'wrong' types of people.

Before the reefer madness era it was mainly blacks and mexicans. Then in the 60/70's it was the counter culture hippies. The fact that it was associated with these people made it easy to demonize and play on white americas racial fears/prejudices.

No doubt that mj has a history in the United States, I would not consider it as significant as tobacco and alcohol. Compared to tobacco, the history of mj (for getting high) pales... MJ was not able to survive efforts to tax and illegalize. Alcohol is probably the biggest survivor, surviving a constitutional outlawing! Mj is used, by the numbers, by whites to get high - more in number than any other ethnic or racial group in the US - I would argue that any racial barrier to the legalization of mj are long gone.

Simply having a tobacco company switch to mj will not lead to mj being legalized. The legalization of tobacco and the failed efforts to make tobacco illegal have not succeeded or failed because of Big tobacco. The same argument is true for opium or cocaine (history & current political/legal situation).

 

[Eeezee]

Never, too many anti-drug morons don't realize that tobacco and marijuana are alike with health problems.

 

[Chaotic42]

If they legalized marijuana, Taco Bell would become larger than Microsoft.

 

[alexjohnson16]

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: HotChic
If they could get it legalized, it'd be done already. Too much profit to be made.

Exactly...it's not for lack of desire, but ability.

Would be great though - divert our resources on the "war on drugs" to the more important drugs.

Oh but I know, marijuana is a gateway drug! Well, alcohol is a gateway to marijuana, coffee is a gateway to alcohol, soda is a gateway to coffee, water is a gateway to soda, and living is a gateway to water.

Therefore, lets ban life itself.

haha while I agree with you about points 1 and 2, I think that alcohol and marijuana are both gateway drugs if abused. To me it's not about physical addiction but the feeling. That being said I think pot should be legalized and taxed a lot so they can lower taxes for the rest of us and concentrate on meth and e like you stated.

Tax a lot? It should be taxed whatever they need to allow it, control it, etc. It shouldn't be taxed more to lower taxes for anyone else.

Tell that the the state governments which already or are planning to tax the hell out of cigarettes.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

What's with the desire to legalize pot? Not like it stops the potheads now...

 

[j00fek]

we wish

 

[eplebnista]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
If they legalized marijuana, Taco Bell would become larger than Microsoft.

lol

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: JS80
Evil Christian Conservative Republicans run big tobacco. They'll never legalize weed :roll:

Ummm, it is because they are evil that they would legalize weed, if they were the ones selling it.
Since its already 2007 and it hasnt happened yet, I would say its not going to happen.
They've have plenty of time to "encourage" politicians to do it.
I guess they just dont see it as a viable market.

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: SSSnail

Originally posted by: JS80
Evil Christian Conservative Republicans run big tobacco. They'll never legalize weed :roll:

But, there's a greater force at work here...

I, am greater then God 😱

 

[ch33zw1z]

ch33zw1z < God

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: JS80
Evil Christian Conservative Republicans run big tobacco. They'll never legalize weed :roll:

Ummm, it is because they are evil that they would legalize weed, if they were the ones selling it.
Since its already 2007 and it hasnt happened yet, I would say its not going to happen.
They've have plenty of time to "encourage" politicians to do it.
I guess they just dont see it as a viable market.

lol, it's not "legal" because the FDA claims there's no medical use for it, BUT there's actually people that have Federal scrips for it.

Not only is there viable medical use for MJ, it has many other uses. among them: paper, clothing, rope, natural fuels, AND able to be harvested more than twice as much as anything we use today.

Also, many states are opening medical MJ programs...registered patients can attain scrips via State gov't, but can still be prosecuted Federally

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: JS80
Evil Christian Conservative Republicans run big tobacco. They'll never legalize weed :roll:

😛


What happened to "We're against marijuana. Stay the course!"

We were never "stay the course."

Besides, the Neo-Cons should love to make it legal. Where's all this personal freedom they like to talk about?

Originally posted by: eakers
The problem with pot is that it is very easy to grow and process, unlike tobacco. So, if they legalize it, they won't be able to tax it because everyone will have a little garden or basement full.

Possibly. People pay crazy amounts of money for coffee at Starbucks or Dunkin' Donuts, when coffee can be made at home for much less money. People also buy vegetables at the store, when growing them at home isn't too difficult. Want apples? Plant an apple tree, or buy one of those miniature things that some gardening suppliers sell, and grow it on a porch or in a sunroom. People will pay 3-digit prices for designer pants when a $20 pair will do the same job, without some company's logo embroidered on it. "Our pants are worth this much money because we told you that they are, and you believed us. You actually believed us."

So there would still be the convenience of just going to the store and buying pre-rolled joints with a big brandname stamped on the package, rather than going to the trouble of growing the plants yourself at home.

Originally posted by: BoomerD
They'd have to kill all the bible-thumpers who believe that all drugs are the tools of Satan before you'd ever get pot legalized...but alcohol is OK!

Just get the pope some, he'll probably say that they found some new scripture, or reinterpreted something else, and hey, it's ok now!

 

[DainBramaged]

It will be legalized when it will be legalized, regardless of Big Tobacco. I'm guessing around 25 years.

 

[mercanucaribe]

There's too much to lose politically by legalizing marijuana. It has nothing to do with making money.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
What's with the desire to legalize pot? Not like it stops the potheads now...

Because hemp/cannabis has other viable uses, particularly medical uses, besides just getting some losers high. Your question should be, why have we outlawed such a valuable resource just because we're afraid some losers might abuse it?



edit: on topic, Big Tobacco does not, contrary to popular opinion, have the political clout to make cannabis legal.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
What's with the desire to legalize pot? Not like it stops the potheads now...

Because hemp/cannabis has other viable uses, particularly medical uses, besides just getting some losers high. Your question should be, why have we outlawed such a valuable resource just because we're afraid some losers might abuse it?

How so? So far as I can tell, all the seemingly good arguments for legalizing are cooked up by potheads. If you know of some good reasons beyond over generalized arguments, please share.

There isn't much stopping it from being used medically - as with many many other drugs, and as far as industrial cannabis, there is a pretty big difference there considering it is a non-psychoactive variety of cannabis.

Oh and in case you didn't notice, this thread is about "Big Tobacco" and marijuana - clearly the argument here is legalize it in order to obtain it and smoke it to get high.

You can come up with any other conspiracy theory you want to make yourself feel better if that's what it takes.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
What's with the desire to legalize pot? Not like it stops the potheads now...

Because hemp/cannabis has other viable uses, particularly medical uses, besides just getting some losers high.

Losers such as Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Bill Clinton.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

How so? So far as I can tell, all the seemingly good arguments for legalizing are cooked up by potheads. If you know of some good reasons beyond over generalized arguments, please share.

What about the ability of people to choose what they put into their own body? Do you own yourself, or does the government own you?

I can understand not being able to smoke up in the presence of others, but if you're in your own home, alone, then why shouldn't you be allowed to do it? I feel that why a person does alone, in their own house, is nobody else's business.

 

[Rebasxer]

People would still pay for the convenience of pre rolled weed. Rolling your own cigarettes is much cheaper than buying them, but it takes effort. Same would be applied for weed.