If America is the greatest country on Earth...

[Harvey]

I don't hate anyone, except self righteous, pompous progressives.

But you love self righteous, pompous, bigoted right wingnut jackasses who would destory the Constitution they claim they want to preserve... but only for themselves... and then, only until they find the next group of American citizens who call them out for their mindless hate and bigotry. :thumbsdown:

Why do you?

You are the one who posts your hateful bigotry all over P&N. I could post links to plenty of examples, but I don't have to because you've made the point with your posts in this one.

 

[xj0hnx]

You are the one who posts your hateful bigotry all over P&N. I could post links to plenty of examples, but I don't have to because you've made the point with your posts in this one.

Go ahead and try dimwit. Post all my hateful bigoted comments.

 

[xj0hnx]

Because there were plenty of examples of this kind of behavior before 9/11,

Such as ...

 

[Moonbeam]

Go ahead and try dimwit. Post all my hateful bigoted comments.

You can tell a bigot but you can't tell him much.

 

[xj0hnx]

You can tell a bigot but you can't tell him much.

You can feel free to got to posting up all my bigoted comments too. How do the say? Put up or shut up?

 

[Red Dawn]

Well were are a great nation as far as wealth and military power go, probably the greatest in that sense. As a People? I'd say were are about average, maybe a little more self absorbed and selfish than the average. We are also very glutinous.

 

[Moonbeam]

You can feel free to got to posting up all my bigoted comments too. How do the say? Put up or shut up?

That's bigot talk. The wise know you can't put up to a bigot because when you show a bigot he's a bigot he sees a great man. In short, Sir, you are completely fucked; there's no hope for you. You will know you have a chance when you go back yourself and post your own examples to yourself. The only escape for a bigot is serious intention. A request to put up or shut up only shows aggressive bigoted intention.

 

[Harvey]

Go ahead and try dimwit. Post all my hateful bigoted comments.

We can start with your first post in this thread:

Shouldn't America be an example of freedom and tolerance?

To a point. There comes a point where enough is enough, and they can destroy us.

Who is this undefined "they," exactly where is that undefined "point," and what constitutes the undefined "enough" to which you refer?

Post proof, including facts and supporting links to support your point.

Finding all of your bigotry could constitute a lifetime career. Posting all of it could take up an entire forum and most of wikipedia. Finding a wealth of significant examples took only minutes.

Here are just a few in another thread in which you spew your hate, but, as in this thread, you don't post a single fact, quote or link to support your bigotry because you can't.

Post #60:

In the world of give and take, the world of people of diversity living together, compromise is the key. There is a compromise, but the Imam doesn't want it, therefore he isn't about "healing wounds" or creating dialogue.

You post no links or quotes to prove your malicious slur.

It's about OUR Constitution, not Saudi Arabia's. You have neither the brains nor the balls to support the rights guaranteed to ALL American citizens under OUR Constitution. All you can do is spew your hate.

Post #65:

The President is right.
The mosque has every right to be there like it or not.

Right, I think we've established that, but just because they have a right to do something doesn't make it a good idea. Neo-Nazi's have the right to speak of hating Jews, and minorities, is it a good idea?

It's a better idea than leaving bigots like you to decide who can and cannot exercise their First Amendment right to free speech.

Post #71:

But wait, isn't the origin and epicenter of Islam, Saudi Arabia? Got eye rolls big enough for your reasoning?

Which is exactly the point, if there's no tolerance in Muslim countries for other religions, what the hell makes people think they want tolerance here?

Where's your proof that the majority of them don't?

Post #82:

Did Jews, or minorities behead any Neo-Nazis?

Did ALL, or even most Muslims in the U.S. attack Americans, let alone behead them?

Post #118:

Did Islam change when it came to America? Is it a different brand of Islam?

Different from what? Christians or Jews or any other religion that's dogmatic and arrogant enough to believe that theirs is the only true belief and that all others are wrong?

All of them are entitled to believe that. None of them is entitled to commit acts of violence against others for not accepting their beliefs, and under our Constitution, none of them is entitle to enact laws that restrict the Constutional rights of members of other religions.

You can search the thread and the forums for more... And that's MISTER dimwit to you.

 

[cwjerome]

Shouldn't America be an example of freedom and tolerance?

The OP is terribly flawed, but to answer the last question: Yes.

But Moonbeam is wrong when he talks about Americans and fear. Humans can think when they're scared, and to whatever extent Americans are fearful, thinking can still happen. On the other hand when you are angry you cannot think... people must set aside the militant part of the brain when making decisions. That goes for a few in this country and many more around the world.

The US is the most powerful force in the history of the world... a monumental, ongoing human endeavor and the most important formal institution on earth. In this regard, our national character is extremely important as both a cause and effect of our current position. When Lincoln, Madison, and the greats referenced the Spirit (or "genius") of the American people they are addressing the things that make us who we are. Not the crude things like 3 branches of government, English language, and liking jazz. It's the deeper things that truly make us, us. The US Constitution can give order and form to the character of the American people, but what is truly written on the hearts of the people?

The Russian spies in the news recently was a fascinating anthropological event. People like those spies want to find our strength... want to understand the strength of the American people. They don't want to bury us, they want to understand us to best us. They want to understand our spirit and character, figure us out. This is quintessential Aristotle: to understand something you must live it. You can't observe Athens from a hill and expect to learn about the people... you must live amongst them. These Russians weren't after secrets, they were looking to understand this great people... what makes them tick.

Our greatness lies in our spirit. If you have to become Sparta to defeat Sparta, you've already lost. Betraying our conscience damages us far more than whatever outside entity threatens us. The answer is not to be naive, it's to become what we really are even better. American must be the example.

 

[xj0hnx]

This is the best fail I can do

Now go find my bigoted comments, still waiting ...

 

[MJinZ]

I'm an atheist and I still think those are pretty good ideas to live by. What are your ideals? You have us all interested in what you stand up for.

Pretty sure he stands for straight polygamous marriage. :hmm:

 

[xj0hnx]

Pretty sure he stands for straight polygamous marriage. :hmm:

I don't stand for it, but I don't stand against it like you bigot.

 

[Harvey]

Now go find my bigoted comments, still waiting ...

Already posted a few, your lying and denials notwithstanding. If you can't see it, didn't your mother ever warn you, if you didn't stop that, you'd go blind? D:

 

[dmcowen674]

If America is the greatest country on Earth.....

Please keep up, it used to be the greatest country on Earth...

Republicans changed it to third world status for their rich friends.

 

[xj0hnx]

Already posted a few, your lying and denials notwithstanding. If you can't see it, didn't your mother ever warn you, if you didn't stop that, you'd go blind? D:

You didn't post anything except proof that you are a delusional emo boy.

 

[Moonbeam]

The OP is terribly flawed, but to answer the last question: Yes.

But Moonbeam is wrong when he talks about Americans and fear. Humans can think when they're scared, and to whatever extent Americans are fearful, thinking can still happen. On the other hand when you are angry you cannot think... people must set aside the militant part of the brain when making decisions. That goes for a few in this country and many more around the world.

The US is the most powerful force in the history of the world... a monumental, ongoing human endeavor and the most important formal institution on earth. In this regard, our national character is extremely important as both a cause and effect of our current position. When Lincoln, Madison, and the greats referenced the Spirit (or "genius") of the American people they are addressing the things that make us who we are. Not the crude things like 3 branches of government, English language, and liking jazz. It's the deeper things that truly make us, us. The US Constitution can give order and form to the character of the American people, but what is truly written on the hearts of the people?

The Russian spies in the news recently was a fascinating anthropological event. People like those spies want to find our strength... want to understand the strength of the American people. They don't want to bury us, they want to understand us to best us. They want to understand our spirit and character, figure us out. This is quintessential Aristotle: to understand something you must live it. You can't observe Athens from a hill and expect to learn about the people... you must live amongst them. These Russians weren't after secrets, they were looking to understand this great people... what makes them tick.

Our greatness lies in our spirit. If you have to become Sparta to defeat Sparta, you've already lost. Betraying our conscience damages us far more than whatever outside entity threatens us. The answer is not to be naive, it's to become what we really are even better. American must be the example.

Hehe, you think but you don't introspect or you would know that thought is fear. Thought tries to end fear but because thought is fear a snake eats its tail. This has been know for centuries. Cowards die many times before their deaths..... And anger is just fear, the attempt to hold it out of consciousness.

 

[Harvey]

Already posted a few, your lying and denials notwithstanding. If you can't see it, didn't your mother ever warn you, if you didn't stop that, you'd go blind? D:

You didn't post anything except proof that you are a delusional emo boy.

You asked for quotes showing that you're a bigot, and I posted them, and the best you can manage is to continue the same lies, denials and petty name calling.

Prove your statement with facts, quotes and links or you're still lying and denying the truth -- that your own posts show you for the bigot you are.

 

[Darwin333]

... why do we insist on stooping down to third-world levels of hatred to get our points across? Looking through these threads I see comments supporting the Qu'ran burnings, about not allowing mosques to be built until churches are built in Saudi Arabia, "Everyone Draw Muhammad Day," etc. If you feel that you as a Christian American are so much better than these people, why do you support the very same hatred these "lesser people" support? Shouldn't America be an example of freedom and tolerance?

You contradict yourself. People are perfectly free to burn their Qu'ran or their Bibles in our country and they should be free to do so. As far as "tolerance", that really depends on the very specific things you think we should be tolerant of. We should tolerate the freedoms of other Americans especially when we disagree with them (such as burning the American Flag, even though I disagree with you for doing it, I will defend your right to do it). Some things we should not tolerate though, it depends on the specific "thing".

 

[Darwin333]

Please keep up, it used to be the greatest country on Earth...

Republicans changed it to third world status for their rich friends.

I honestly would like to buy you a plane ticket to a country that has a "third world status". I have been to a few and you are truly insane if you think we are anywhere close to that. Our poor folk are friggen kings compared to real 3rd world poor folk.

 

[Darwin333]

America is a land of freedom and freedom of speech and with this you get hatred comments about other people but again you can't blame the hole country for this.

I disagree and frankly you can blame me for those "hatred comments" because I truly believe in free speech and will defend it.

Unfortunately, most people don't realize what the real intent behind "free speech" is. Here is a small clue, "free speech" isn't about protecting popular speech.

 

[xj0hnx]

You asked for quotes showing that you're a bigot, and I posted them, and the best you can manage is to continue the same lies, denials and petty name calling.

Prove your statement with facts, quotes and links or you're still lying and denying the truth -- that your own posts show you for the bigot you are.

There's no quotes there of bigotry.

In the world of give and take, the world of people of diversity living together, compromise is the key. There is a compromise, but the Imam doesn't want it, therefore he isn't about "healing wounds" or creating dialogue.

Right, I think we've established that, but just because they have a right to do something doesn't make it a good idea. Neo-Nazi's have the right to speak of hating Jews, and minorities, is it a good idea?

Which is exactly the point, if there's no tolerance in Muslim countries for other religions, what the hell makes people think they want tolerance here?

Did Jews, or minorities behead any Neo-Nazis?

Did Islam change when it came to America? Is it a different brand of Islam?

Your demented take on them doesn't constitute bigotry. You are the leftist version of Spidey07, even other leftist here laugh at you and your insane ramblings.

 

[piasabird]

The Jews were tolerant all the way into the gas chambers and then they were incinerated. This is what happens to the tolerant! Have you learned nothing from history?

Is it really asking too much to ask for a muslim country to allow christian churches if they want to build mosque's in the United States. All we are asking is for freedom of religion in all countries. If that is not allowed then we are just allowing invaders that want to kill all non-muslims a foothold in the United States. Are you so stupid you can not see that? We should treat foreigners in our country using the laws of their country, if that is too harsh they can leave. So we should not allow Saudia Arabia to build their racist Mosques in the United States.

 

[Moonbeam]

The Jews were tolerant all the way into the gas chambers and then they were incinerated. This is what happens to the tolerant! Have you learned nothing from history?

Is it really asking too much to ask for a muslim country to allow christian churches if they want to build mosque's in the United States. All we are asking is for freedom of religion in all countries. If that is not allowed then we are just allowing invaders that want to kill all non-muslims a foothold in the United States. Are you so stupid you can not see that? We should treat foreigners in our country using the laws of their country, if that is too harsh they can leave. So we should not allow Saudia Arabia to build their racist Mosques in the United States.

Why the fuck do you even call yourself an American you third world twit.

 

[Orignal Earl]

The Jews were tolerant all the way into the gas chambers and then they were incinerated. This is what happens to the tolerant! Have you learned nothing from history?

Is it really asking too much to ask for a muslim country to allow christian churches if they want to build mosque's in the United States. All we are asking is for freedom of religion in all countries. If that is not allowed then we are just allowing invaders that want to kill all non-muslims a foothold in the United States. Are you so stupid you can not see that? We should treat foreigners in our country using the laws of their country, if that is too harsh they can leave. So we should not allow Saudia Arabia to build their racist Mosques in the United States.

Ok, let me see if I got this right, what your basically saying is

I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay,
I sleep all night and I work all day.
Chorus: He's a lumberjack and he's okay,
He sleeps all night and he works all day.
I cut down trees, I eat my lunch,
I go to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays I go shopping

And hav
e buttered scones for tea.
Mounties: He cuts down trees, he eats his lunch,
He goes to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays he goes shopping
And has buttered scones for tea.
Chorus: He's a lumberjack and he's okay,
He sleeps all night and he works all day.
I cut down trees, I skip and jump,
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing,
And hang around in bars.
Mounties: He cuts down trees, he skips and jumps,
He likes to press wild flowers.
He puts on women's clothing,
And hangs around in
bars.
Chorus: He's a lumberjack and he's okay,
He sleeps all night and he works all day.
I cut down trees, I wear high heels,
Suspendies and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie,
Just like my dear pappa.
Mounties: He cuts down trees, he wears high heels?
Suspendies...and a bra?
...he's a lumberjack and he's okay,
He sleeps all night and he works all day.
...he's a lumberjack and he's OKAAAAAAAAAAYYY.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

We should be such a tolerant and accepting society that we should allow another culture to steam roll over our own cultural Western values and ideals to appease them. That works out to an awesome conclusion OP.