Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
I'm so tired of hearing that revisionist crap. You judge historical figures by the world they lived in, not the one you live in. Everyone of their class and means owned slaves. Not everyone voluntarily freed those slaves upon their own death, or wrote the Declaration of Independence (the first draft of which called slavery an "abomination" that must be ended), or defeated the preeminent great power of the age before refusing the absolute power that most men, including me, would have taken in a heartbeat.
Don't believe the PC bullshit. Washington and Jefferson were better men than you, me, or any president this or any other country has had in our lifetimes. And I find it especially ironic that you would attack them for owning slaves or commiting genocide (which neither of them did) after what you posted, which basically amounts to abolishing freedom of religion, nuking historical cities, undoing the Constitution, and institutionalizing racism all over again.
Slavery and genocide aren't revionism, they're historical fact. I don't believe the PC BS about the founding fathers, nor do I worship them like you seem to do. They were humans, and had the same virtues and faults that we do now.
Anyway, what would you do? Re-double airport security efforts?
Exactly, they were men, not mythological figures that need to be completely discounted for being less than perfect. I'm not the one who sees them as such...thats all the new-age lesbian social history professors who try to project their own self-important utopian bullshit hundreds of years into the past, and write volumes of complete drivel about how Richard Lionheart was a homo just because he didn't love his arranged-marriage wife or father a child. I never felt the need to deify them in the first place, hence no need to change history to match my own granola bar version of reality. Don't worry, if you went to college within the last 10 years, I won't hold it against you that all you were taught is this trendy politically-motivated PC claptrap that suggests we use modern liberal standards to judge the first Homo Sapien in his natural habitat.
To answer your question, I certainly would become more extreme if the OP happened...but I would not be willing to live in Soviet Russia just because some illiterate, subhuman, madrassa-deeducated Islamist rapist and child-killer was threatening my life. I'd rather take my chances with a gun and some ideals than let those ignorant brainwashed savages scare me into becoming like them.
I did not intend my response to your post to be insulting in any way...but like I said, I think some things are worth dying for.