If a place charges $1.00 for delivery do you have to pay tip?

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Hossenfeffer

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Any of the pizza places that I order from here are within maybe 1/2 mile of me. There's no way in hell that I'm gonna drop more than a buck or two on a tip, and only then because it's become some sort of social norm. It's yet another way that the damn tipping mentality has pervaded our culture ;) It used to be you would tip someone to insure good service (translation: -beforehand-)

Say I order a small pizza ($5 for the sake of argument) he delivers. I tip maybe a buck.

Why, for the love of all that is holy, should I bump the tip up solely because the bill is more expensive? So I buy 2 larges, it gets over $20. He's carrying 2 slightly larger boxes up the steps instead of just one. Big deal.

It's not my responsibility to pay the driver's wage. If the pizza places owners want to "assume" that people will get tipped well, that's a problem between the owner and the driver, not me. That being said, I've never stiffed a driver.
 

AgentBehemoth

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I live a 200 yards from the joint and I would never give more than (a dollar) for trucking my pie across the street unless it happens to be over.50+ I'll give him the change too. My drivers call me Mr. Behemoth and are constantly bringing me coupons and always with a smile.

These pizza places sell delivery which is included in the price whether they say it's in the price or not, if you don't think so we can jerk some of their old commercials out and check them out. The only reason I tip the driver is because he got off his lazy ass and brought me my pie so that I didn't have to do it's not because he privided me a service I should tip for because that's in the cost of the pie.
If you are looking to make a good living delivering pizzas then I think the co-op teacher at school fvcked you because just like MickyDs, BKing, and Wendys you are just a scrubb doing a scrubb job and you should expect compensation to match that, if you want Dr. pay get a degree and become a Doc.


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tk149

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I tip based on how much the bill is, and how much work I think the delivery guy has to do. If it's bad traffic/raining/snowing, I tip more. If I ordered a lot of stuff, I tip more. If the guy is late, I tip less. My baseline tip is around $3 to $5. I subtract the delivery charge from that amount.
 

TravisT

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I tip, but not near as much as some of you mentioned. Think about it, on average and on a busy night like Friday, say it takes a delivery driver 15 minutes per delivery (Which its probably more than that, buti 'll give you the benefit of the doubt)

He gets paid $6 per hour from his employer, he get $3 for every delivery. He's making well over what I made working at a fast food restraunt.

I'm just trying to keep educated community priority on the high paying jobs by only giving $1 or $2 everytime they deliver to my house.
 

Pepsi90919

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If the guy is late, I tip less.
why? what if it's not his fault? what do you think he does, sits on his ass for 15 minutes while the pizza sits on the top of the oven?


COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS. it's late because the store got backed up and couldn't find another driver. or it's late because he had to deliver somewhere far away and yours had to sit around for a bit while he doubled the speed limit trying to get back to the store to take yours.


it's not late because of anything that can be helped, believe me.
 

alkemyst

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As an ex delivery driver....also all of this my family did before I became one so I learned.

No matter what the restaurant charges...time it takes (unless you know the driver screwed up), tip at least $3....I tip $5 or at least 15% if it's a party order. my $5 tip applies to food just for me $7-10 up to about $30, then I add on a little more....sure it's the same trip, but less the driver can fit in his car.

Delivery charges are going to become popular...esp with pizza..there has been a lot of talk about it since frozen pizza's are getting better.

regardless if you are ordering pizza or a high ticket item....a delivery is a delivery. I delivered Chinese food and averaged $2, my pizza delivering friends got the change ($19.45 = .55 cent tip to driver).

have your stuff together when I knock on the door....don't tell me my 'husband' just ran to the store for drinks with the checkbook and should be back soon. After you order don't leave until the pizza comes, if you arent going to be home in 5 mins don't order. It's usually 30 mins or less....not 30mins on the dot. :(

If you have a big property with a gate and no intercom....be waiting...it sucks to sit honking my horn or calling your number while you surf the net on my cell while fending off the three 1/2 bear and 1/2 rottweilers you got trying to jump your fence and eat me.

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TravisT

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
If the guy is late, I tip less.
why? what if it's not his fault? what do you think he does, sits on his ass for 15 minutes while the pizza sits on the top of the oven?


COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS. it's late because the store got backed up and couldn't find another driver. or it's late because he had to deliver somewhere far away and yours had to sit around for a bit while he doubled the speed limit trying to get back to the store to take yours.


it's not late because of anything that can be helped, believe me.

In most cases I agree with you. But bad service is bad service, regardless. And your employees (waitresses/waiters/deliverers as well as your business in general) have to pay for it. You want a good healthy business, give good business to the customers (Get their food to them in a timely manner, be polite, ect ect).

Its not a matter of bashing the people who deliver the pizza, its a matter of sending a message back with that deliverer to the local pizza restraunt.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: TravisT
I tip, but not near as much as some of you mentioned. Think about it, on average and on a busy night like Friday, say it takes a delivery driver 15 minutes per delivery (Which its probably more than that, buti 'll give you the benefit of the doubt)

He gets paid $6 per hour from his employer, he get $3 for every delivery. He's making well over what I made working at a fast food restraunt.

I'm just trying to keep educated community priority on the high paying jobs by only giving $1 or $2 everytime they deliver to my house.

Travis, seriously you never cease to spew idiotic stuff

When I was a driver I got $3.50 per hour....that was decent, considering restaurant work with tips is not minimum wage material.

When you worked at a fast food restaurant you had no constant wear and tear on your car, that is a direct effect of delivery work....more maintenance, shellrock roads will also ruin tires quickly....think about it....someone delivers food as a service, not a charity.

Where do you get $3 per delivery from????? $3 per delivery was an excellent delivery day....it was rare....$2 on average if you are lucky (restaurant delivery pay + tip)

Based on you logic: $6 per hour + ($3 per delivery * 4 * hours worked (AVE 4-5)) = $72 to $90 before taxes, before gas, before tires, before oil changes, etc.....

considering also that you at most get 3 decent nights a week, maybe 4


 

TravisT

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Originally posted by: alkemyst

Travis, seriously you never cease to spew idiotic stuff

When I was a driver I got $3.50 per hour....that was decent, considering restaurant work with tips is not minimum wage material.

I know for a fact that at the local 'Pizza Hut' here the delivery people get paid $6.

When you worked at a fast food restaurant you had no constant wear and tear on your car, that is a direct effect of delivery work....more maintenance, shellrock roads will also ruin tires quickly....think about it....someone delivers food as a service, not a charity.

Yes, and I don't get paid for my wear and tear on my car from work and back... Am I missing out?

Where do you get $3 per delivery from????? $3 per delivery was an excellent delivery day....it was rare....$2 on average if you are lucky (restaurant delivery pay + tip)

I didn't say thats average, i said according to you guys on average they SHOULD be getting that. Read, learn, then reply.

Based on you logic: $6 per hour + ($3 per delivery * 4 * hours worked (AVE 4-5)) = $72 to $90 before taxes, before gas, before tires, before oil changes, etc.....

considering also that you at most get 3 decent nights a week, maybe 4

Cry me a river, thats still more than what I got when I worked at a fast food restraunt and I didn't complain.

 

bcterps

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
If the guy is late, I tip less.
why? what if it's not his fault? what do you think he does, sits on his ass for 15 minutes while the pizza sits on the top of the oven? COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS. it's late because the store got backed up and couldn't find another driver. or it's late because he had to deliver somewhere far away and yours had to sit around for a bit while he doubled the speed limit trying to get back to the store to take yours. it's not late because of anything that can be helped, believe me.

I could really care less why it's late, if it's late, then I will tip less. It's their job to get it to you in a timely manner. 30 minutes is reasonable, 45 is not unless they have specifically told you it will take that long, or the weather is bad, etc. It's also why I rarely order delivery to begin with, I'd rather pick it up anyways because it's faster and my food is fresher.
 

amcdonald

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You people are crazy for tipping so much.
Here's some advice.
Quit complaining about your crappy job. Everyone knows delivering pizzas sucks.
Its like complaining about being a waiter or a dishwasher.
 

Thraxen

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Yes, and I don't get paid for my wear and tear on my car from work and back... Am I missing out?

What? Driving to and from work is not even close to driving your car for a living.
 

Chrono

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I usually tip at restaurants at a constant 15% for good service. For pizza deliveries on the otherhand, I don't think that much because why should I give someone more than a dollar that drove 3-5 blocks to get to my house? Being in the delivery business, you've agreed to use your vehicle to make deliveries. I'm sure you're compensated by the restaurant itself usually per mile. I used to drive and do consulting jobs that would might be 5 miles to even 50 miles away, you don't see me complaining about driving there. My employer just reimburst me per mile. True, I didn't like it, but I didn't make a big fuss about the the amount he gave me per mile. I got 29 cents per mile, which isn't much at all.
 

TravisT

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Yes, and I don't get paid for my wear and tear on my car from work and back... Am I missing out?

What? Driving to and from work is not even close to driving your car for a living.

Okay, i will give you that. Although I didn't get a pay increase for the wear and tear on my body during physical labor at the fast food restraunt. :(
 

ChefJoe

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I dream of 30 minutes or less. The local Papa Johns (previously mentioned as charging $1.50 delivery fee for my house 2-3 miles from the store) always quotes 45 minutes or more... and rarely comes faster. I think they're seriously understaffed.
 

Lucky

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Originally posted by: Chrono
I usually tip at restaurants at a constant 15% for good service. For pizza deliveries on the otherhand, I don't think that much because why should I give someone more than a dollar that drove 3-5 blocks to get to my house? Being in the delivery business, you've agreed to use your vehicle to make deliveries. I'm sure you're compensated by the restaurant itself usually per mile. I used to drive and do consulting jobs that would might be 5 miles to even 50 miles away, you don't see me complaining about driving there. My employer just reimburst me per mile. True, I didn't like it, but I didn't make a big fuss about the the amount he gave me per mile. I got 29 cents per mile, which isn't much at all.

I drive ~1500 miles a month in the current job and only get paid .25/mile, well under the federal standard of .36/mile. Sucks, and all it does is bring my income to a liveable amount while putting wear on my car.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: ChefJoe
I dream of 30 minutes or less. The local Papa Johns (previously mentioned as charging $1.50 delivery fee for my house 2-3 miles from the store) always quotes 45 minutes or more... and rarely comes faster. I think they're seriously understaffed.

Well, cosidering most orders are 10-15 minutes old when they come out of the oven, it's almost impossible to make it in less than 30 minutes unless you're the drivers only delivery, or the first house he has to go to.
 

TravisT

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Originally posted by: Lucky


I drive ~1500 miles a month in the current job and only get paid .25/mile, well under the federal standard of .36/mile. Sucks, and all it does is bring my income to a liveable amount while putting wear on my car.

Solution: Go to school? Get a better job? I realize there are circumstances that may prevent this, and if you are already in school, then your making the right sacrifices to have to keep from doing this the rest of your life. :)

 

Lucky

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
If the guy is late, I tip less.
why? what if it's not his fault? what do you think he does, sits on his ass for 15 minutes while the pizza sits on the top of the oven?


COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS. it's late because the store got backed up and couldn't find another driver. or it's late because he had to deliver somewhere far away and yours had to sit around for a bit while he doubled the speed limit trying to get back to the store to take yours.


it's not late because of anything that can be helped, believe me.




the driver is a representative of the store. the store has told me I'd get my pie in 40 minutes. Driver takes an hour and 20 minutes. I tip less, yes, because he is still a representative of the store and the store screwed up by not getting me the pizza in time.

gives the delivery guy incentive not to lie on the phones and to get there on time.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: Chrono I usually tip at restaurants at a constant 15% for good service. For pizza deliveries on the otherhand, I don't think that much because why should I give someone more than a dollar that drove 3-5 blocks to get to my house? Being in the delivery business, you've agreed to use your vehicle to make deliveries. I'm sure you're compensated by the restaurant itself usually per mile. I used to drive and do consulting jobs that would might be 5 miles to even 50 miles away, you don't see me complaining about driving there. My employer just reimburst me per mile. True, I didn't like it, but I didn't make a big fuss about the the amount he gave me per mile. I got 29 cents per mile, which isn't much at all.
I drive ~1500 miles a month in the current job and only get paid .25/mile, well under the federal standard of .36/mile. Sucks, and all it does is bring my income to a liveable amount while putting wear on my car.

I put almost 3k miles on my car in city driving every month, but I don't get paid per mile. I get paid 80 cents per pizza run, which could include 3 deliveries at one time.

Now, here's the kicker, papa johns will only let me claim a certain number of miles per day (for IRS tax purposes) - saw I drive 120miles, they'll only claim 40.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
If the guy is late, I tip less.
why? what if it's not his fault? what do you think he does, sits on his ass for 15 minutes while the pizza sits on the top of the oven? COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR HEADS. it's late because the store got backed up and couldn't find another driver. or it's late because he had to deliver somewhere far away and yours had to sit around for a bit while he doubled the speed limit trying to get back to the store to take yours. it's not late because of anything that can be helped, believe me.
the driver is a representative of the store. the store has told me I'd get my pie in 40 minutes. Driver takes an hour and 20 minutes. I tip less, yes, because he is still a representative of the store and the store screwed up by not getting me the pizza in time. gives the delivery guy incentive not to lie on the phones and to get there on time.

But it's not always a lie
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Say you call up an order a pizza, at the same time, a business orders 35 pies. If their order goes in before yours, your order is almost guaranteed to be a little late. The person (phone girls at my store) taking orders might not have know that that order was going in, etc.
 

Lucky

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: Chrono I usually tip at restaurants at a constant 15% for good service. For pizza deliveries on the otherhand, I don't think that much because why should I give someone more than a dollar that drove 3-5 blocks to get to my house? Being in the delivery business, you've agreed to use your vehicle to make deliveries. I'm sure you're compensated by the restaurant itself usually per mile. I used to drive and do consulting jobs that would might be 5 miles to even 50 miles away, you don't see me complaining about driving there. My employer just reimburst me per mile. True, I didn't like it, but I didn't make a big fuss about the the amount he gave me per mile. I got 29 cents per mile, which isn't much at all.
I drive ~1500 miles a month in the current job and only get paid .25/mile, well under the federal standard of .36/mile. Sucks, and all it does is bring my income to a liveable amount while putting wear on my car.

I put almost 3k miles on my car in city driving every month, but I don't get paid per mile. I get paid 80 cents per pizza run, which could include 3 deliveries at one time.

Now, here's the kicker, papa johns will only let me claim a certain number of miles per day (for IRS tax purposes) - saw I drive 120miles, they'll only claim 40.


That's impossible! How could they legally do this? If you drive that much then start deducting it as a business expense. .36/mile.

 

Lucky

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I realize it's not always a lie. But if you wait 60 minutes at a restraunt where it normally takes 15 to be served, do you not complain? tip less? Of course, the waiter should have been more on top of your stuff and fought to get their customers food out faster. If you fail to keep up on the orders coming in and let my order fall to the bottom, it's not my fault and your tip certainly isnt going to be as good. Surely as a delivery driver even you cannot honestly say that, from a customers perspective, that they should be as traditionally obligated to leave the same amount of tip for a late delivery as for an on-time one.