IE7 Blows

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: archcommus
Wow, here come the misinformed FF zealots again. Some things will never change. At least there are a few saints in here who use FF but admit it's mostly due to their habits and that IE is actually just fine.

For all of you who don't know sh!t:
- IE7 does have extenions, they're just call add-ons instead
- With one single add-on IE7 CAN block flash ads and normal ads, AND support retrieving recently closed tabs
- IE7 on default without add-ons can save/restore a session
- Tabs can be turned OFF, the menu bar can be turned back ON, and using a single add-on the menu bar can even be moved back to the familiar IE6 position
- Add-ons can be had to add script support, mouse gestures, spell checking, and inline searching
- For most users it's exremely stable and loads faster than other browsers. Even if this IS because things are pre-loaded in the OS, who the fvck cares? It still benefits me!

Do I need to continue? Sheesh.

FF has thousands of extensions, and if you really want to add something that's not there yet, or modify something so that it works better; with a little programming expertise, you probably can. IE will never be able to compete with OSS for extensions.

So Can FF

FF also stores sessions by default.

Disabling Tabs and bringing back IE6 is even worse, and is irrelevant.

And FF has a spellchecker. Beat that.

Your post is pointless. The thread topic is "IE7 Blows," and people were agreeing with that and mentioning reasons such as IE7 lacking certain features. I was proving that wrong. Of course I know FF does those things as well, that doesn't make IE suck.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: archcommus
Wow, here come the misinformed FF zealots again. Some things will never change. At least there are a few saints in here who use FF but admit it's mostly due to their habits and that IE is actually just fine.

For all of you who don't know sh!t:
- IE7 does have extenions, they're just call add-ons instead
- With one single add-on IE7 CAN block flash ads and normal ads, AND support retrieving recently closed tabs
- IE7 on default without add-ons can save/restore a session
- Tabs can be turned OFF, the menu bar can be turned back ON, and using a single add-on the menu bar can even be moved back to the familiar IE6 position
- Add-ons can be had to add script support, mouse gestures, spell checking, and inline searching
- For most users it's exremely stable and loads faster than other browsers. Even if this IS because things are pre-loaded in the OS, who the fvck cares? It still benefits me!

Do I need to continue? Sheesh.

FF has thousands of extensions, and if you really want to add something that's not there yet, or modify something so that it works better; with a little programming expertise, you probably can. IE will never be able to compete with OSS for extensions.

So Can FF

FF also stores sessions by default.

Disabling Tabs and bringing back IE6 is even worse, and is irrelevant.

And FF has a spellchecker. Beat that.

Your post is pointless. The thread topic is "IE7 Blows," and people were agreeing with that and mentioning reasons such as IE7 lacking certain features. I was proving that wrong. Of course I know FF does those things as well, that doesn't make IE suck.

IE7 blows because it's ruled by MS, and thus as long as you use it you will be subject to the whims of (aka you will be the b!tch of) MS.

My philosophy is that if there's an equivalent OSS software out there, there's no reason to use a closed source competitor.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: archcommus
Wow, here come the misinformed FF zealots again. Some things will never change. At least there are a few saints in here who use FF but admit it's mostly due to their habits and that IE is actually just fine.

For all of you who don't know sh!t:
- IE7 does have extenions, they're just call add-ons instead
- With one single add-on IE7 CAN block flash ads and normal ads, AND support retrieving recently closed tabs
- IE7 on default without add-ons can save/restore a session
- Tabs can be turned OFF, the menu bar can be turned back ON, and using a single add-on the menu bar can even be moved back to the familiar IE6 position
- Add-ons can be had to add script support, mouse gestures, spell checking, and inline searching
- For most users it's exremely stable and loads faster than other browsers. Even if this IS because things are pre-loaded in the OS, who the fvck cares? It still benefits me!

Do I need to continue? Sheesh.

FF has thousands of extensions, and if you really want to add something that's not there yet, or modify something so that it works better; with a little programming expertise, you probably can. IE will never be able to compete with OSS for extensions.

So Can FF

FF also stores sessions by default.

Disabling Tabs and bringing back IE6 is even worse, and is irrelevant.

And FF has a spellchecker. Beat that.

Your post is pointless. The thread topic is "IE7 Blows," and people were agreeing with that and mentioning reasons such as IE7 lacking certain features. I was proving that wrong. Of course I know FF does those things as well, that doesn't make IE suck.

IE7 blows because it's ruled by MS, and thus as long as you use it you will be subject to the whims of (aka you will be the b!tch of) MS.

My philosophy is that if there's an equivalent OSS software out there, there's no reason to use a closed source competitor.

You forgot to replace all the S's with $'s.
:roll:

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: nkgreen
Opera > FF > IE

QFT, newest version of opera dominates everything out on the market, it's ashame it took them so long to get v9 out because it's overall way more stable and uses much less memory than firefox.

 

[sindows]

IE7 isn't too bad, I've never had a problem with it. I think the problem lies with user error

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: slag

Originally posted by: daveshel
I hate the way M$ keeps trying to shove IE down my throat. I remember Netscape and what M$ did to kill them and will never willingly use IE, no matter how many Firefox features they steal.

How exactly are they shoving it down your throat?

It comes packaged with MS operating systems. Big suprise there, sure they want you to use it, but you are free to download any of the other tens of browsers and use them. XP will even ask you if you want to use that new browser as your default?

Its no different than any other OS coming preloaded with a browser. How else are you going to go out on the web to download a browser if one doesn't come preloaded? The majority of people have no idea of what FTP is or how to use it from a dos shell/box so thats out of the question.

M$ called it a critical update. Users who used Windows Update but didn't adjust the default settings got it seemingly without choosing to get it.

 

[OutHouse]

the Borg is strong in this one.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: pontifex
i don't know how any of you get anything done.

UPS damaged my package! UPS sucks!
My Western Digital HD died! WD sucks!
Game X has a bug! Game Company Y sucks!
My Ferrari got a flat! Ferrari sucks!
I got the flu! My body sucks!
Its raining out! God sucks!
Leaves fall in my yard! Trees suck!
My shoes came untied! Shoe Company A sucks!

Congrats on never having any problems with it. I guess that proves it is a 100% flawless product. :roll:

i'm sorry, show me where i said it was flawless?

 

[DigitalWanksta]

Originally posted by: Kev
What a huge step backwards. Aside from tabbed browsing, it is worthless. It's incredibly slow, and crashes at least twice a day. And I use firefox most of the time too.

Yeah this rant sucked, but not as much as IE7

Firefox

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: archcommus
Wow, here come the misinformed FF zealots again. Some things will never change. At least there are a few saints in here who use FF but admit it's mostly due to their habits and that IE is actually just fine.

For all of you who don't know sh!t:
- IE7 does have extenions, they're just call add-ons instead
- With one single add-on IE7 CAN block flash ads and normal ads, AND support retrieving recently closed tabs
- IE7 on default without add-ons can save/restore a session
- Tabs can be turned OFF, the menu bar can be turned back ON, and using a single add-on the menu bar can even be moved back to the familiar IE6 position
- Add-ons can be had to add script support, mouse gestures, spell checking, and inline searching
- For most users it's exremely stable and loads faster than other browsers. Even if this IS because things are pre-loaded in the OS, who the fvck cares? It still benefits me!

Do I need to continue? Sheesh.

FF has thousands of extensions, and if you really want to add something that's not there yet, or modify something so that it works better; with a little programming expertise, you probably can. IE will never be able to compete with OSS for extensions.

So Can FF

FF also stores sessions by default.

Disabling Tabs and bringing back IE6 is even worse, and is irrelevant.

And FF has a spellchecker. Beat that.

Your post is pointless. The thread topic is "IE7 Blows," and people were agreeing with that and mentioning reasons such as IE7 lacking certain features. I was proving that wrong. Of course I know FF does those things as well, that doesn't make IE suck.

IE7 blows because it's ruled by MS, and thus as long as you use it you will be subject to the whims of (aka you will be the b!tch of) MS.

My philosophy is that if there's an equivalent OSS software out there, there's no reason to use a closed source competitor.

Okay, so you openly state your reasons for hating IE have NOTHING to do with the actual credibility or features of the software. In other words a totally pointless argument. So because it's not open source it "blows"? I guess that means Windows blows, too, as well as Office and Money. Yep, because if I use them I'm Microsoft's BITCH.

Heh.

 

[Fritzo]

I'm not too fond of Vista so far. I use IE7 every day though and have no problems.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: archcommus
Wow, here come the misinformed FF zealots again. Some things will never change. At least there are a few saints in here who use FF but admit it's mostly due to their habits and that IE is actually just fine.

For all of you who don't know sh!t:
- IE7 does have extenions, they're just call add-ons instead
- With one single add-on IE7 CAN block flash ads and normal ads, AND support retrieving recently closed tabs
- IE7 on default without add-ons can save/restore a session
- Tabs can be turned OFF, the menu bar can be turned back ON, and using a single add-on the menu bar can even be moved back to the familiar IE6 position
- Add-ons can be had to add script support, mouse gestures, spell checking, and inline searching
- For most users it's exremely stable and loads faster than other browsers. Even if this IS because things are pre-loaded in the OS, who the fvck cares? It still benefits me!

Do I need to continue? Sheesh.

FF has thousands of extensions, and if you really want to add something that's not there yet, or modify something so that it works better; with a little programming expertise, you probably can. IE will never be able to compete with OSS for extensions.

So Can FF

FF also stores sessions by default.

Disabling Tabs and bringing back IE6 is even worse, and is irrelevant.

And FF has a spellchecker. Beat that.

Your post is pointless. The thread topic is "IE7 Blows," and people were agreeing with that and mentioning reasons such as IE7 lacking certain features. I was proving that wrong. Of course I know FF does those things as well, that doesn't make IE suck.

IE7 blows because it's ruled by MS, and thus as long as you use it you will be subject to the whims of (aka you will be the b!tch of) MS.

My philosophy is that if there's an equivalent OSS software out there, there's no reason to use a closed source competitor.

Okay, so you openly state your reasons for hating IE have NOTHING to do with the actual credibility or features of the software. In other words a totally pointless argument. So because it's not open source it "blows"? I guess that means Windows blows, too, as well as Office and Money. Yep, because if I use them I'm Microsoft's BITCH.

Heh.

I sense hostility. Have fun.

And yes, Windows blows. Unix variants are much more superior in terms of efficiency, speed, security, and if you take the time to learn, they also become easier to use.

And don't throw that "well if it was popular it's security would suck" crap out. The fact that it's Open Source all but guarantees (in the case of the larger distros) that patches will be out long before a large corporation could produce them, and will be of higher quality.

The only reason Unix isn't more popular is because most people are too stupid to actually care to know what they're using. All they care about is the end result, which is, in this case an easy to use workable computer that does sh!t for them. They want a black box and are too lazy to investigate the workings of said box.

Well, that's my rant on Windows.

There's also nothing that MS Office or Money can do that their OSS equivalents can't.

You obviously don't know enough about programming to understand the values of OSS software and the advantages that come with said values. But I suppose ignorance is bliss. Enjoy.

 

[SampSon]

Both Vista and IE7 aren't that great. Once again MS "fixed" something that didn't need to be fixed.

 

[Razgriz]

IE7 is slow for me and crashes sometimes. I only use it when necessary, otherwise I use Firefox.

 

[SmoochyTX]

I have preferred IE7 over FF ever since IE7 was released and FF2 wouldn't install properly (at all really) for me on my home computer or work computer. It's fast for me, I like the new interface, and I love the add-ons.

To be completely fair, I think it's crashed twice on me since I installed it. I also have a problem with Java that I haven't been able to figure out that keeps sound from being played in streams and apps. But I hardly ever need that so when I do I use FF1.5 for that. Overall, I prefer IE7 over FF and Opera.

 

[SuperSix]

Originally posted by: pontifex
IE7 > FF

mine never crashes or gives me problems. loads faster than FF too.

Yep - your machine sucks

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: nkgreen
Opera > FF > IE

..will windows update work with it??

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: archcommus
- Tabs can be turned OFF, the menu bar can be turned back ON, and using a single add-on the menu bar can even be moved back to the familiar IE6 position

How can you get IE7 to look like IE6/FF

 

[GoingUp]

As far as im concerned the biggest internet related thing that blows right now is Adobes lack of Flash plugin support for 64bit browser

 

[GoingUp]

As far as rendering a page goes, IE7 does a lot better job. From my web design point of view, its leaps and bounds ahead of IE 6/5.5

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Opera >> IE7 > Firefox > IE6

- JaAG

 

[w3stfa11]

IE7 is terribly slow on Vista. If I could, I'd go back to IE6. Either way, I'd still use Firefox.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: archcommus
- Tabs can be turned OFF, the menu bar can be turned back ON, and using a single add-on the menu bar can even be moved back to the familiar IE6 position

How can you get IE7 to look like IE6/FF

I guess you can't put them on one line like that. I was referring to the default IE6 layout, which is pretty much like your first pic.

Originally posted by: irishScott
I sense hostility. Have fun.

And yes, Windows blows. Unix variants are much more superior in terms of efficiency, speed, security, and if you take the time to learn, they also become easier to use.

And don't throw that "well if it was popular it's security would suck" crap out. The fact that it's Open Source all but guarantees (in the case of the larger distros) that patches will be out long before a large corporation could produce them, and will be of higher quality.

The only reason Unix isn't more popular is because most people are too stupid to actually care to know what they're using. All they care about is the end result, which is, in this case an easy to use workable computer that does sh!t for them. They want a black box and are too lazy to investigate the workings of said box.

Well, that's my rant on Windows.

There's also nothing that MS Office or Money can do that their OSS equivalents can't.

You obviously don't know enough about programming to understand the values of OSS software and the advantages that come with said values. But I suppose ignorance is bliss. Enjoy.

Actually, I am a programmer at a software company. I do understand the values of open source software and I like using it when I can. But you have to admit that from an end user perspective, who the hell cares if it's open source or not. All that matters is that the software does the job and that the price is right. If it's open source and free, great. If not, the price needs to be reasonable. I use free/open source when I can, but mostly I don't because the open source version is NOT equivalent to the retail versions. I've tried Open Office and it doesn't compare to MS Office 2007. I don't know of any open source financial management software but if there is any I'd be really surprised if it integrated with my banks and accounts like Money does. I also don't use any operating system besides Windows because I play games, plain and simple.

Don't get me wrong, I love that open source software exists and I appreciate it. It's necessary and helpful for competition and innovation. But when a retail copy does the job better for me, I use it. What's so hard to understand about that?

 

[middlehead]

Never had a problem with IE7, but I haven't been compelled to switch from Firefox either.

 

[soydios]

IE7 is fine. I prefer it much more over IE6, because it's much cleaner and has tabbed browsing. Irrespective, Firefox is still my choice, because I have it all customized just how I like it.

And honestly, stop bashing Vista if you aren't using it. Vista Ultimate 64-bit is running better on my machine than XP Pro 32-bit was.