Idea for dealing with homeless population - "tag and tase".

[VirtualLarry]

Idea for dealing with homeless population - "tag and tase".

Make "camping" on the street within city limits illegal (which may in fact be unconstitutional. But many locales are doing this now).

If arrested 2-3 times for this offense, require legally "tagging" the human with a radio-transmitter / RFID, like they do for migratory animals.

Erect a "Homeless paradise" on the outskirts of town, outside of city limits. Provide running water, toilet, respite from direct sunlight. Banish the arrested and tagged homeless there.

If a tagged homeless person wanders onto city limits, taser them and ship them back out to "paradise".

This is basically the premise of the movie "Demolition Man", watch it.

Edit: Not sure that this treatment is appropriate for those that served this country in the armed forces.

This thread falls below fails to clear the very low bar of OT as acceptable. It also pegs both the irony and the "lack of self awareness" meter.

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[Naer]

brilliant

 

[Ken g6]

It is about time for that idea to be tried and fail.

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine accidentally predicted the 2020s by writing about the 1990s

Income inequality, homelessness, and other social ills of the 2020s — predicted by TV writers looking out their windows in 1995.

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[Dr. Detroit]

I thought we were shipping em to an island and letting them fend for themselves - we can make food drops, then live stream the violence and charge people to watch it.

Brilliant!

 

[WelshBloke]

This is basically the premise of the movie "Demolition Man", watch it.

Movies like that are supposed to be a warning not a plan!

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

It would be more humane to just cull them.

 

[mikeymikec]

Edit: Not sure that this treatment is appropriate for people, regardless of their past

FTFY

 

[pete6032]

Idea for dealing with homeless population - "tag and tase".

Make "camping" on the street within city limits illegal (which may in fact be unconstitutional. But many locales are doing this now).

If arrested 2-3 times for this offense, require legally "tagging" the human with a radio-transmitter / RFID, like they do for migratory animals.

Erect a "Homeless paradise" on the outskirts of town, outside of city limits. Provide running water, toilet, respite from direct sunlight. Banish the arrested and tagged homeless there.

If a tagged homeless person wanders onto city limits, taser them and ship them back out to "paradise".

This is basically the premise of the movie "Demolition Man", watch it.

Edit: Not sure that this treatment is appropriate for those that served this country in the armed forces.

Would you be homeless if you didn't have disability assistance?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Would you be homeless if you didn't have disability assistance?

Probably. In that vein, what to do about homeless with jobs?

 

[Brainonska511]

Why not simply build housing of all types so that overall priced go down instead of suggesting monstrous policies?

 

[VirtualLarry]

90 yr old minister and some of his church goers arrested for feeding homeless

So they said in an article a while back that this was affecting wheels on meals, and organizations who go out and feed the homeless on the streets who are starving. Florida just made good on their promise and arrested this minister and some of his church congregation who were with him trying to...

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This is from P&N 2014, and was suggested by the forum.

 

[mikeymikec]

VL, what's the point in this thread?

 

[VirtualLarry]

VL, what's the point in this thread?

Another one of my pointless off-the-shelf musings. You gotta admit though, "tag and tase" does have a certain cachet to it, kind of like "drill baby, drill".

 

[jmagg]

Probably be easier to taze first /s.
Build more shelters.

 

[VirtualLarry]

They aren't "civilized" humans, that are ready and acclimated to get back into society. They have a lot more in common with feral animals.

Putting them in a "camp" (without any razor-wire or walls, they would be free to travel, just not into the zones with "proper civilized society"), but provide them with running water and sanitation facilities seems to be the most humane thing that you could do for them.

 

[Brainonska511]

They aren't "civilized" humans, that are ready and acclimated to get back into society. They have a lot more in common with feral animals.

This is gross.

These people are humans that happen to be without proper shelter - I think we can show them a little sympathy and try to improve the situation overall instead of looking to foist them somewhere else so they become someone else's problem. Furthermore, homeless is largely driven by housing costs, not personality or health flaws like mental illness or addiction (it's why places like West Virginia, with huge addiction issues have really low homelessness rates)

 

[pete6032]

Probably. In that vein, what to do about homeless with jobs?

Well I like your idea, but I think we should also start tagging people who are at risk of being homeless too. That way if they fall into homelessness then we don't have to go out and find them and tag them. I would classify at risk as having a job that pays below poverty or being on government assistance.

 

[K1052]

People who would rather turn the country into a fascist state than build more homes are something else.

 

[Red Squirrel]

There should be help available to get off drugs and get back on their feet, but those who refuse should be driven out. If you or me decided to go camping randomly in town they'd fine us pretty quick, so why should those people get away with it. Heck even on your own land you're not even allowed to setup a tent or camper. IMO that is ridiculous. At very least allow it on land you own. If you buy land but can't afford to build yet you should be allowed to live in a camper or build a small cabin.

There should also be a lower barrier of entry to housing in general. There needs to be more cheap land available that is unorganized township, so you buy it and can build what you want without no one being in your way. No permits or any of that BS.

There's plenty of minimum wage jobs out there so no excuse to be jobless, the problem is that it's just not enough to pay for housing and costs of living as is. Those costs need to be brought down and barrier of entry smaller.

 

[Brainonska511]

There should be help available to get off drugs and get back on their feet, but those who refuse should be driven out. If you or me decided to go camping randomly in town they'd fine us pretty quick, so why should those people get away with it. Heck even on your own land you're not even allowed to setup a tent or camper. IMO that is ridiculous. At very least allow it on land you own. If you buy land but can't afford to build yet you should be allowed to live in a camper or build a small cabin.

There should also be a lower barrier of entry to housing in general. There needs to be more cheap land available that is unorganized township, so you buy it and can build what you want without no one being in your way. No permits or any of that BS.

There's plenty of minimum wage jobs out there so no excuse to be jobless, the problem is that it's just not enough to pay for housing and costs of living as is. Those costs need to be brought down and barrier of entry smaller.

FFS. People that need social services shouldn't be shuttled off to the middle of nowhere. We should just allow density in our cities. We used to do this with single-room occupancy, and apartments in general, then we decided these were bad things and make shocked faces that housing is now really expensive

 

[Red Squirrel]

FFS. People that need social services shouldn't be shuttled off to the middle of nowhere. We should just allow density in our cities. We used to do this with single-room occupancy, and apartments in general, then we decided these were bad things and make shocked faces that housing is now really expensive

Doesn't need to be middle of nowhere, could just be on the outskirts of town.

 

[Brainonska511]

Doesn't need to be middle of nowhere, could just be on the outskirts of town.

Spreading people out is a bad thing. You think traffic is bad now, wait till you increase the sprawl even more.

 

[WelshBloke]

They aren't "civilized" humans, that are ready and acclimated to get back into society. They have a lot more in common with feral animals.

Putting them in a "camp" (without any razor-wire or walls, they would be free to travel, just not into the zones with "proper civilized society"), but provide them with running water and sanitation facilities seems to be the most humane thing that you could do for them.

Dude seriously?
Lots of people would say the same about you and your situation.
We call those people Nazis.

You, of all people, should have some sense of empathy and understanding from a "but for the grace of god go I" perspective.

 

[sandorski]

No. We need to bring back the idea that Everyone has intrinsic value. All people need to be lifted up and not just those deemed worthy.

 

[manly]

OP appears qualified to be HUD Director in the next Republican administration.