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Idaho Fish And Game Official Under Fire Over African Hunting Trip

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The reason is the same reason we like better graphics and controls in video games. The more realistic the action, the more we enjoy things.

Would you rather watch porn in low def, 5fps?

Indeed, it's good we can agree the comparison was ineffectual
 
I have known people that kill for the enjoyment of killing. I can also say that the vast majority of "hunters" I have known enjoy hunting for the test of ability and not the death. I also have only known hunters that use the animal for food and other things. Its not that they needed it to live, but enjoyed the meat and enjoyed sharing it.

So, killing because you like to eat that animal appears a lot closer than I think it appears to others. I would also point out that factory farming is far worse than what most hunters do.


Be a better test of ability if the animals could shoot back.
 
No. Your presumption is that they like the danger. What they like is that animals are more difficult to hunt.

Again though, hunting is not for me. I'm a video game guy.

No I simply think that it would be a good test of a hunter's "abilities" if he/she was hunting something that could shoot back. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar bunky.
 
Fuck this guy and his family. Worthless scum. I hope he and his family die just as painfully and slowly as the animals he killed did.
 
I saw an exterminator trap the mom raccoon, place the cage near the foundation where she was nested and one by one shoot the baby raccoons as they left to see mom.

*I didn’t hire this guy, I just witnessed it
**yes raccoons are vermin and need to go but man that’s a cruel way to do it

Up here in the city they're all protected, exterminator move them to parks at least 2km away and release.
 
No I simply think that it would be a good test of a hunter's "abilities" if he/she was hunting something that could shoot back. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar bunky.

By that logic, a person that wants to race cars as a test of skill should also try and do a painting as its harder and even more of a test of skill.

Your point is absurd.
 
The reason is the same reason we like better graphics and controls in video games. The more realistic the action, the more we enjoy things.

Would you rather watch porn in low def, 5fps?


Not really. A realistic video game would be, like, a washing-up simulator, or a commuting-according-to-the-rules-of-the-road-in-congested-traffic simulator*. Generally the point of them is fantasy, to do things one can't do in the real world due to the likely awfulness of the consequences. Even photo-realistic graphics or physics isn't necessarily desirable - stylized and artistic imagery can be more interesting than photo-realism.

I'd rather shoot invading multi-tentacled aliens (with nil adverse consequences) than some harmless wildlife (and then have to worry what value I might have removed from the world by doing so)..

* OK, some video games _are_ a bit like this and some people seem to like them. But those people are freaks, dammit.
 
Not really. A realistic video game would be, like, a washing-up simulator, or a commuting-according-to-the-rules-of-the-road-in-congested-traffic simulator*. Generally the point of them is fantasy, to do things one can't do in the real world due to the likely awfulness of the consequences. Even photo-realistic graphics or physics isn't necessarily desirable - stylized and artistic imagery can be more interesting than photo-realism.

I'd rather shoot invading multi-tentacled aliens (with nil adverse consequences) than some harmless wildlife (and then have to worry what value I might have removed from the world by doing so)..

* OK, some video games _are_ a bit like this and some people seem to like them. But those people are freaks, dammit.

But, I think you get my point. Some people want reality, some want fantasy, some want something different. The goal is not about killing.

As for realistic, the point is to trick the mind into believing what is being done is reality. Some people have the ability to put themselves into a fantasy world and for a time believe. Others get torn out of that realm by small non-congruent details. If you are a tech person, which seems reasonable considering you are on this forum, then you likely get annoyed when watching some movies and or TV shows. "Zoom in on that fly in the robbery video. There it is, in the reflection of the fly's eye is the vin number from the car he drove. We got him!". We know that is stupid because we know the reality of current technology, and it takes away from the story to some degree when they do it. Others do not have that reaction.

So, to me hunting can be for things other than getting enjoyment from the killing. Again, its not for me as its not something I would enjoy, but, I can at least understand it.
 
By that logic, a person that wants to race cars as a test of skill should also try and do a painting as its harder and even more of a test of skill.

Your point is absurd.

You're either pretending that you don't understand or you really are not particularly bright. You don't need to let me know which it is.
 
So you are demanding the constitution recognise the right to arm bears?

I don't have any issues with this

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IDK if any of you guys have ever been out on FBLM land out in Idaho or Utah but the people who live in these backwoods places shoot at EVERYTHING. I used to hike around the wasatch range and every time I came upon an old campsite of "hunters" there would be like 10,000 shells of all different calibers and trees would be shattered all over the place. It was clear these people were going out and buying hundreds of $ worth of ammunition and literally dumping lead into random trees for amusement.


These people in Idaho are so bored, they will do anything for entertainment. And they have TONS of guns. So they shoot stuff ALL THE TIME. I bet this trip to go shoot random african animals was this guys life dream. That's what you dream about out there: Slaughtering exotic animals for fun.

Strange people out there on the colorado pleateau
 
The reason is the same reason we like better graphics and controls in video games. The more realistic the action, the more we enjoy things.

Would you rather watch porn in low def, 5fps?

Yeah, just like fortnite is ultra-realistic....
 
No I simply think that it would be a good test of a hunter's "abilities" if he/she was hunting something that could shoot back. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar bunky.

Or allowed just a knife.

Let that dentist douchebag fight that lion with just a knife.
 
By that logic, a person that wants to race cars as a test of skill should also try and do a painting as its harder and even more of a test of skill.

Your point is absurd.
Says the dumbass who is trying to compare playing a video game to hunting and killing living creatures in real life...
 
Yeah, just like fortnite is ultra-realistic....

Some like fantasy that is not real, some like reality. I personally don't play fortnite, but, I do play fantasy games. I have also played racing sims with a racing wheel and had far more fun because it felt more real. It was still very far away from real, as go karts was far more real than the sim and I enjoyed it far more than the sim.

Was your point that because some people like fantasy that nobody likes realistic?
 
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