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Ichiro breaks record.

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Just got back from the game. Without a doubt, the best baseball game I've ever seen. The whole place was going crazy when he came up to bat, flashbulbs were cycling across the stadium with each swing and it was just incredibly loud when he tied the record. The place EXPLODED when he broke it (literally, what with the fireworks and all).

EE!
CHEE!
ROW!
 
hes one player i think that most people can agree is a true baseball player.. all about the fundamentals still.. great fielder, great arm, great hitter.. can get on base anyway he needs to, bunting, steals bases.. and so forth...
i'm glad he broke the record, congrats ichiro!...
 
Originally posted by: Gurck
From what I hear, he's known about and followed only sparingly in Japan, while Hideki Matsui is regarded as a national hero. Go figure 😛

I dunno about sparingly -- he's always had a huge media following here (I mean, in 2001, there was supposedly a reward being offered in Japan for a naked picture of him). From ESPN: "About 115 journalists from Japan were credentialed for the three-game series. The 30-year-old Suzuki, a four-time All-Star, was a huge star in Japan during his nine seasons with Orix in Japan's Pacific League. He got 1,278 hits playing in his home country, and he left Japan with a .353 hitting average." Doesn't sound like that small of a following, but Matsui might be more popular.
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
it will have an astericx next to it because he did it in a 164 game season and not 150 game season

at 150 games he wasent close to the record

Blah blah blah. I'd like to see Sisler get that many hits against today's pitchers. Its just as impressive, if not moreso.
 
Originally posted by: Strang
Just got back from the game. Without a doubt, the best baseball game I've ever seen. The whole place was going crazy when he came up to bat, flashbulbs were cycling across the stadium with each swing and it was just incredibly loud when he tied the record. The place EXPLODED when he broke it (literally, what with the fireworks and all).

EE!
CHEE!
ROW!

😀
 
Originally posted by: HermDogg
Originally posted by: Anubis
it will have an astericx next to it because he did it in a 164 game season and not 150 game season

at 150 games he wasent close to the record

Blah blah blah. I'd like to see Sisler get that many hits against today's pitchers. Its just as impressive, if not moreso.

Yeah, back in those days there were only a handful of pitchers and they threw pretty much two types of pitches. So Sisler had an easier time getting to know the pitchers and how to beat them.
 
Originally posted by: nitsuj3580
I really think if he has another solid 5-6 years (hit .300+, around 200 hits, gold glove defense), he deserves to be the first Japenese player to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

Led the Mariners to most wins in a season, MVP, Rookie of the Year, 3-time gold glove winner, single-season hits record, most hits in a 4 year span record, batting titles. In only 4 years! If Kirby Puckett can make it with a short career, Ichiro should be able to.

Puckett stopped playing due to injury. Ichiro is going to have to do it for more than 5-6 years to get into the HOF.
 
I'm happy to see that he broke the record, but I think you also have to take into account that the guy who had the record played in less games too. I think his average was over .400 while Ichiro's is like.372 right now or something. In anycase, :beer: for Ichiro!
 
Originally posted by: Gurck
:thumbsup:, congrats to him. He's a great player and deserves more credit than he gets. From what I hear, he's known about and followed only sparingly in Japan, while Hideki Matsui is regarded as a national hero. Go figure 😛

One reason Matsui is so well regarded in Japan is because he embodies humility. You don't hear one bad thing about him and he carries himself very well.

It doesn't hurt that he was a homerun champion there either.

Universally
homeruns > singles.
 
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Gurck
:thumbsup:, congrats to him. He's a great player and deserves more credit than he gets. From what I hear, he's known about and followed only sparingly in Japan, while Hideki Matsui is regarded as a national hero. Go figure 😛

One reason Matsui is so well regarded in Japan is because he embodies humility. You don't hear one bad thing about him and he carries himself very well.

It doesn't hurt that he was a homerun champion there either.

Universally
homeruns > singles.

Chicks dig the long ball. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
it will have an astericx next to it because he did it in a 164 game season and not 150 game season

at 150 games he wasent close to the record

get your facts straight...

these days it is a 162 game season, then it was 154

either way, Ichiro KICKS ASS!

plus look at it this way, he is playing in a time where the pitcher rarely throws 100 pitches in a game, there are relievers and closers. back in Sisslers' day the pitcher would be the pitcher for the whole game and sometimes throw a double header. think about having to hit against some guy who has thrown 150 or so pitches already...alot easier to hit than someone that goes a batter or two every few games.
not saying that Sissler wasn't great, but don't be a JACKASS and try to take anything away from one of the best players around in this day and age....
 
Originally posted by: isasir
Originally posted by: HermDogg
Originally posted by: Anubis
it will have an astericx next to it because he did it in a 164 game season and not 150 game season

at 150 games he wasent close to the record

Blah blah blah. I'd like to see Sisler get that many hits against today's pitchers. Its just as impressive, if not moreso.

Yeah, back in those days there were only a handful of pitchers and they threw pretty much two types of pitches. So Sisler had an easier time getting to know the pitchers and how to beat them.

Plus it was all white people back then. Ichiro's record is legit.
 
congrats to ichiro, he deserves it. guy plays his heart out night after night. now i just need baseball to give me another .400 hitter. c'mon baseball!
 
Originally posted by: GroundZero
plus look at it this way, he is playing in a time where the pitcher rarely throws 100 pitches in a game, there are relievers and closers. back in Sisslers' day the pitcher would be the pitcher for the whole game and sometimes throw a double header. think about having to hit against some guy who has thrown 150 or so pitches already...alot easier to hit than someone that goes a batter or two every few games.
untrue

All teams had relievers back then and they used them, go look up the IP for the relievers on some of those teams. The starters were averaging 120-130 pitches per start, which is essentially what they did up through the 70's. The notion that starters were gassed by the 6th and the manager just sat and twidled his thumbs while the opposition teed off is false.

There are a lot of different points that can argued for either player. Ichiro's record is going to be tough to break, last I checked it looked like he was on pace to break the all-time record for AB's as well. The next guy to be able to challenge this will almost have to be a leadoff hitter in order to get enough AB's, and then be able to bat .375+ and play nearly every single game of the year. That type of player doesn't come around too often, the best hitters on a baseball team are usually placed in the 2-4 spots like Sisler was (he mostly batted 3rd that year).
 
Originally posted by: Strang
Originally posted by: Gurck
From what I hear, he's known about and followed only sparingly in Japan, while Hideki Matsui is regarded as a national hero. Go figure 😛

I mean, in 2001, there was supposedly a reward being offered in Japan for a naked picture of him

That's just because they wanted to see if he was anatomically correct. Dude's a freaking alien or at least a robot.

Congrats to Ichiro, though. Especially considering he's been out there busting his ass every game when he really hasn't had any reason to play since May.
 
Originally posted by: SludgeFactory
There are a lot of different points that can argued for either player. Ichiro's record is going to be tough to break, last I checked it looked like he was on pace to break the all-time record for AB's as well. The next guy to be able to challenge this will almost have to be a leadoff hitter in order to get enough AB's, and then be able to bat .375+ and play nearly every single game of the year. That type of player doesn't come around too often, the best hitters on a baseball team are usually placed in the 2-4 spots like Sisler was (he mostly batted 3rd that year).

Yep. Ichiro is almost on pace to break the AB record - he is on pace for 704. The record? 705.

Not only does the player need to get a whole lot of at bats, have a nice average, and play a lot of games, but he also needs to barely even take a walk to get this record.
 
Originally posted by: raystorm
Congrats to Ichiro. He's a hitting machine. Can you imagine if he started his career here instead of Japan??

Originally posted by: yankeesfan
I wish he hadn't. 🙁 I like old baseball records and hope they never get broken.

Well..you know what they say... records are made to be broken. I know some baseball certain records are so special. Some records like the strikeout record and maybe even DiMaggio's hitting streak may never be broken though.

Wasn't the strikeout record just broken days ago by Adam Dunn?
 
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: raystorm
Congrats to Ichiro. He's a hitting machine. Can you imagine if he started his career here instead of Japan??

Originally posted by: yankeesfan
I wish he hadn't. 🙁 I like old baseball records and hope they never get broken.

Well..you know what they say... records are made to be broken. I know some baseball certain records are so special. Some records like the strikeout record and maybe even DiMaggio's hitting streak may never be broken though.

Wasn't the strikeout record just broken days ago by Adam Dunn?

Yeah. Maybe he meant a pitching strikeout record.
 
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: raystorm
Congrats to Ichiro. He's a hitting machine. Can you imagine if he started his career here instead of Japan??

Originally posted by: yankeesfan
I wish he hadn't. 🙁 I like old baseball records and hope they never get broken.

Well..you know what they say... records are made to be broken. I know some baseball certain records are so special. Some records like the strikeout record and maybe even DiMaggio's hitting streak may never be broken though.

Wasn't the strikeout record just broken days ago by Adam Dunn?

I think he means strikeouts in a career by a pitcher, which is held by Nolan Ryan with 5714 strikeouts.
 
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