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hal2kilo

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Jaskalas

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This murder actually seems to have convinced my neighbor across the street to remove his Trump flag from his yard
Got just under 3 years to forget about it and for the media to tell him POC are eating dogs and cats and stealing his job.
After Jan 6th, their shame is demonstrated by hours, if not by mere minutes. Propaganda heals all critical thinking.

If anything, the neighbor just doesn't want people to know where to retaliate.
 

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Speaking of the need for retaliation... Minneapolis remains under siege by Nazi SS.
The American people are being trampled. And no one is coming to their defense.
That appears to be a theme in western Democracies. Inaction at all costs.

Mayor Frey: "You cannot drag pregnant women through the snow. You're not allowed to take teenagers out of their car and detain them when they are in fact American citizens. That is against the law in every state. That is against our US Constitution."


 
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Trump DOJ refuses to investigate the murder of Renee Good


And a follow up:

https://www.ms.now/news/doj-civil-rights-division-officials-quit-harmeet-dhillon
 

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Since Greenman certainly won't be acknowledging that the head of the DHS put a Nazi slogan on her podium, I'll give a response in his voice a go:

That might be messed up if it is even a true picture, but I haven't seen the other side of the story. The simple reality is that those are just words. She probably didn't even know that those words were used in that order by Nazis to warn citizens against interfering with Nazis by referencing the slaughter of an entire village in revenge for the death of one Nazi.

Look, mistakes will be made, some agents will go overboard, clergyman will be shot in the face and American citizens will be killed by ICE. I never doubted that there would be mistakes made, sometimes very serious mistakes. Sometimes ICE will have to go house to house in American cities depriving American citizens of their Constitutional rights and threatening them with execution in order to find illegal aliens hiding in the attic. Does anything make you think that's going to be a smooth and trouble free operation? A mess this huge isn't going to be cleaned up without collateral damage, it stinks, and I really do hope anyone who loses their life by getting in the way of an absolutely immune federal force learns their lesson, but it is going to happen.


- Not actually Greenman, or...?
 

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One of two things or a combination of both.

1. They're not being told the same story, shown the same evidence as you are
2. They're fine with you (a member of the opposing team) getting shot in the face for no real reason at all. I guess this is on the path to being ok with having extermination camps for the undesirables. Endlosung.
 
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dank69

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You need to understand, Schumers just thinking about what the average American family that’s super conservative hates him and is imaginary wants and they want ICE.
How dare Democrats not give Republicans the sound bite of them calling for defunding "law enforcement"?

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wtf is wrong with the vast majority of republicans
Too late to turn back now, they'd have to admit they were wrong about a lot of things and they'd rather kill us all than go through with that.
 

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Getting lost in all the MN focused coverage is that ICE is also spreading out into other, less publicized locations.

They are here locally in WV and causing similar problems. A new tactic is DUI-like checkpoints on major arteries. And they are asking for ID randomly. They even got a fire dept to assist in one raid by using a ladder truck to arrest roofers that were on the job.
 

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How dare Democrats not give Republicans the sound bite of them calling for defunding "law enforcement"?


Too late to turn back now, they'd have to admit they were wrong about a lot of things and they'd rather kill us all than go through with that.
Call ICE what they are - the gestapo. They are not law enforcement in any sense. They are disappearing and death squads.

Agree on the second part - i suspect the vast majority of magats are in for the long haul
 

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Call ICE what they are - the gestapo. They are not law enforcement in any sense. They are disappearing and death squads.

Agree on the second part - i suspect the vast majority of magats are in for the long haul
He did call out ICE in that video. They aren't law enforcement which is why I put it in quotes, but the GOP equates them with law enforcement, so to them defunding ICE is defunding "law enforcement," and that is how it will be spun.
 
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The difference between you and I is that I don't blame Democrats for not being able to counter the multi-billion dollar industry of conditioning people from birth to hate Democrats and vote GOP.
So the Democrats are just the victims. They don't really make many mistakes they're just victims. This is unreal. The difference between you and I is that I exist in reality in politics, and you are excusing one of the most pathetic opposition parties as a bunch of helpless people that can't do anything to Buck the system. And after all their corruption and mistakes have been laid out in clear form over the years. That's amazing.

But,

So how did Obama win and have a majority in both houses? I thought Democrats couldn't counter that multi-billion dollar industry according to your quote above.
He did call out ICE in that video. They aren't law enforcement which is why I put it in quotes, but the GOP equates them with law enforcement, so to them defunding ICE is defunding "law enforcement," and that is how it will be spun.
lol The last years have shown quite clearly that one major reason the Dems fail is because they are and have been playing a game the Republicans haven't and aren't playing anymore, like a bunch of clueless idiots, and the Dems pathetic messaging, wimpiness, lack of any real leadership, being beholden to old ways of thought like you are saying here, and dislike of actual progressive things to message with, due to their corruption - are their major flaws and why they are such a failure of an opposition party.
 
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