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fskimospy

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It's just another case where the Federal government is doing a rug pull: making people who are here legally suddenly undocumented. It's cruelty, and it's almost certainly because DHS can't actually find enough people to deport (surprising no one); so beyond being filled with cruel psychopaths, they're also just trying to juice the deportation numbers with these shenanigans.
All true but probably also almost certainly has the long term effect of decreasing immigration more generally. Who wants to immigrate to a country where you can be randomly arrested and tortured? Would you?

We will feel the negative effects of this for the rest of our lives as it takes years and decades to build up trust and almost no time to destroy it.

All those smart doctors, scientists, engineers, etc. that the US used to poach from the rest of the world are going somewhere else now. If anyone thinks it’s a good idea to have fewer exceptional people coming to your country you’re in for a rude awakening.
 
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All true but probably also almost certainly has the long term effect of decreasing immigration more generally. Who wants to immigrate to a country where you can be randomly arrested and tortured? Would you?

We will feel the negative effects of this for the rest of our lives as it takes years and decades to build up trust and almost no time to destroy it.

All those smart doctors, scientists, engineers, etc. that the US used to poach from the rest of the world are going somewhere else now. If anyone thinks it’s a good idea to have fewer exceptional people coming to your country you’re in for a rude awakening.
Yes, also this. The people in charge have done massive damage to the country in the long term for nothing in return.
 

mikeymikec

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This seems to be doing the rounds on social networks:

But from what I can see from YouTube:

It looks like a whole bunch of what's being asserted wasn't said, the last vaguely truthful bit is Leavitt saying, "... they're all criminals". Does anyone here know any better?
 

fskimospy

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This seems to be doing the rounds on social networks:

But from what I can see from YouTube:

It looks like a whole bunch of what's being asserted wasn't said, the last vaguely truthful bit is Leavitt saying, "... they're all criminals". Does anyone here know any better?
Yes, most don't have any criminal convictions at all.


I think what's happening here is pretty clear - they were given a quote of X people arrested per day. Arresting criminals is hard because they are trying to evade you - arresting people here lawfully who are just showing up for their scheduled court appearance is easy.

It's evil and laziness both wrapped together.
 

mikeymikec

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Yes, most don't have any criminal convictions at all.


I think what's happening here is pretty clear - they were given a quote of X people arrested per day. Arresting criminals is hard because they are trying to evade you - arresting people here lawfully who are just showing up for their scheduled court appearance is easy.

It's evil and laziness both wrapped together.

I meant the whole alleged exchange in that FB post, because when I first read it, I wondered if a US journalist really played hardball with the administration, then when I watched the video, it seemed like it was mostly made up.
 

fskimospy

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I meant the whole alleged exchange in that FB post, because when I first read it, I wondered if a US journalist really played hardball with the administration, then when I watched the video, it seemed like it was mostly made up.
Oh sorry, I deleted Facebook a long time ago (look how fancy I am) so I can't read links there.

But yes, US journalists are and have been largely worthless for decades in that they don't require anyone to actually answer questions.
 
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I meant the whole alleged exchange in that FB post, because when I first read it, I wondered if a US journalist really played hardball with the administration, then when I watched the video, it seemed like it was mostly made up.
The pictures are not from the video you linked (she's wearing a different outfit), so it may be a different exchange? But, being FB, it's also entirely possible that it's basically fanfic.
 

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Indus

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The roaches aren't the only things that come out at night.

Sadly plenty of neighbors despite the tariffs and all the shit keep raving about ICE and saying ICE is not deporting enough criminals..

Yep plenty of NIMBY libs feel that way!

I don't know if it's a fuck you to the dem party or they're really on MAGA train or how they justify it. I just know they're pro-ICE because they keep saying that.
 

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Roger Wilco

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Sadly plenty of neighbors despite the tariffs and all the shit keep raving about ICE and saying ICE is not deporting enough criminals..

Yep plenty of NIMBY libs feel that way!

I don't know if it's a fuck you to the dem party or they're really on MAGA train or how they justify it. I just know they're pro-ICE because they keep saying that.

The amusing part is that nobody actually wants to join ICE, thus the removal of age restrictions. Americans are a bunch of pussies, on the left and the right. All bark no bite.
 
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The amusing part is that nobody actually wants to join ICE, thus the removal of age restrictions. Americans are a bunch of pussies, on the left and the right. All bark no bite.

umm dude.. I've gotten text messages from neighbors with details on how to get a job for ICE and to send the scum back to where they belong!

So assuming they looked it up.. they must be interested.

It's like everyone's seen RAMBO and they all want to be Teasle!
 
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Roger Wilco

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umm dude.. I've gotten text messages from neighbors with details on how to get a job for ICE and to send the scum back to where they belong!

So assuming they looked it up.. they must be interested.

It's like everyone's seen RAMBO and they all want to be Teasle!

Forcing FEMA employees to join and begging grandpas to join doesn’t seem to suggest they are hitting their recruitment goals.

Have any of these neighbors joined ICE themselves, or are they just pussy cheerleaders?
 
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Forcing FEMA employees to join and begging grandpas to join doesn’t seem to suggest they are hitting their recruitment goals.

Have any of these neighbors joined ICE themselves, or are they just pussy cheerleaders?

I'll bet a dime on being the cheerleaders and smiling ear to ear when they see the vids!
 
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Probably can't get a job in Hollywood.

Don't forget Scott Baio!

I actually used to like the guy growing up.. didn't know he was such a douchebag.

One of my favorite movies growing up was Zapped.. if you know you know.. but way to ruin it for your fans Scott!

Motherfucker should been the one playing Buddy on Charles in Charge.. not Willy Aames!