ICE fires first shot.

[WelshBloke]

It's also bullshit, people absolutely did criticize Obama, as I provided evidence for.

Yeah, I was trying to stay away from the "do I agree with this in principle" side of it as I didn't think that there'd be common ground there!

 

[Heartbreaker]

Female atty wins the dick measuring contest with Ice goon.

I love these everyday heroes, standing up to the goons and thugs.

 

[trenchfoot]

This whole post is an accidental indictment of how Trump's government is pointlessly cruel and incompetent since Obama achieved much higher numbers without mass oppression and executing American citizens on the street.

Trump's sadistically perverted persona is manifested in those knuckle dragging murderers he's been hiring. It's him personified in every one of them. And I'm certain Trump is getting off from virtually seeing himself in them doing what he'd very much like to do himself. For him it's like Jan. 6th all over again 'cept it's being played out every day everywhere and anywhere a blue state is conveniently available for the picking.

He is truly a sick man that got put where he is from a whole lot of sick people seeing themselves in him just like him seeing himself in his hired killers.

 

[nakedfrog]

Yeah, I was trying to stay away from the "do I agree with this in principle" side of it as I didn't think that there'd be common ground there!

Well, good luck finding common ground with a fascist, I suppose, not sure I see it happening

 

[RnR_au]

This whole post is an accidental indictment of how Trump's government is pointlessly cruel and incompetent since Obama achieved much higher numbers without mass oppression and executing American citizens on the street.

Just curious. How many Americans did immigration officials execute under Obama during their work on deporting illegal immigrants?

 

[allisolm]

The US agents who were involved in the shooting of Pretti have been placed on leave, which is, according to a US Customs and Border Protection spokesman, standard procedure.

Really? I did some checking, and, as far as I can tell the agent who killed Renee Good is not on leave and is not even being investigated.

Standard procedure, my a**.

US agents who shot Minneapolis man Alex Pretti placed on leave

The killing of the ICU nurse, as well as that of Renee Good by an ICE agent, has sparked nationwide outrage.

www.scmp.com

 

[WelshBloke]

Trump's sadistically perverted persona is manifested in those knuckle dragging murderers he's been hiring. It's him personified in every one of them. And I'm certain Trump is getting off from virtually seeing himself in them doing what he'd very much like to do himself. For him it's like Jan. 6th all over again 'cept it's being played out every day everywhere and anywhere a blue state is conveniently available for the picking.

He is truly a sick man that got put where he is from a whole lot of sick people seeing themselves in him just like him seeing himself in his hired killers.

It's like he's doing everything in a rush because he knows his time is limited! 🤞

 

[WelshBloke]

Well, good luck finding common ground with a fascist, I suppose, not sure I see it happening

Ouch!

 

[nakedfrog]

Just curious. How many Americans did immigration officials execute under Obama during their work on deporting illegal immigrants?

I know of one, there may be others? Circumstances were a rather a bit different in that case.

 

[Brainonska511]

The US agents who were involved in the shooting of Pretti have been placed on leave, which is, according to a US Customs and Border Protection spokesman, standard procedure.

Really? I did some checking, and, as far as I can tell the agent who killed Renee Good is not on leave and is not even being investigated.

Standard procedure, my a**.

US agents who shot Minneapolis man Alex Pretti placed on leave

The killing of the ICU nurse, as well as that of Renee Good by an ICE agent, has sparked nationwide outrage.

www.scmp.com

Allegedly placed on leave would be a better description. We have no idea who the agents were and the administration constantly lies.

 

[hal2kilo]

The US agents who were involved in the shooting of Pretti have been placed on leave, which is, according to a US Customs and Border Protection spokesman, standard procedure.

Really? I did some checking, and, as far as I can tell the agent who killed Renee Good is not on leave and is not even being investigated.

Standard procedure, my a**.

US agents who shot Minneapolis man Alex Pretti placed on leave

The killing of the ICU nurse, as well as that of Renee Good by an ICE agent, has sparked nationwide outrage.

www.scmp.com

Yea, I noticed there was no mention of her in this statement.

 

[cytg111]

https://bsky.app/profile/did%3Aplc%3A4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc%2Fpost%2F3mdieilmlxs2u

just following orders didn't help at nuremburg either kristi....

This her?

 

[cytg111]

So .. to my awareness there is not really a messaging app out there right now that US intelligence cant snoop on if they want to... But I guess you gonna need one sooner rather than later.

 

[Pontius Dilate]

Greenman's return to the thread certainly delivers. He says with a straight face, "How is it oppressive government when they're enforcing the law? Obama did the same thing and no one said a word."

I searched for Obama officials declaring that ICE had absolute immunity for anything they did. I've searched for when Obama sent groups of masked ICE agents to rove into American cities with irregular uniforms without warrants or individual identification accosting American citizens on the street demanding proof of citizenship.

I've searched for how many American citizens ICE murdered under the Obama administration, on camera, one of whom had already been disarmed of his legally carried 2nd amendment firearm and was on his hands and knees when he was shot multiple times in the back execution style. I've searched for when Obama told elected Republican representatives that he would call off ICE if they gave him the state's voter information, implying that finding illegal immigrants wasn't ever really the goal.

Seems like Republicans would have been screaming with existential butthurt about oppressive government had any of these things happened under Obama, but oddly I can't find a mention of any of it anywhere. Does Greenman know he's lying, or is he so isolated and pig-ignorant that he just assumes what he's told is true without even trying to validate any of it, or confirm for himself what might actually be happening in this country? I have given up hope of ever knowing.

 

[nakedfrog]

So .. to my awareness there is not really a messaging app out there right now that US intelligence cant snoop on if they want to... But I guess you gonna need one sooner rather than later.

To my knowledge they cannot actually gain access to the content of Signal messages, but they can tell that you're using Signal.

Greenman's return to the thread certainly delivers. He says with a straight face, "How is it oppressive government when they're enforcing the law? Obama did the same thing and no one said a word."

I searched for Obama officials declaring that ICE had absolute immunity for anything they did. I've searched for when Obama sent groups of masked ICE agents to rove into American cities with irregular uniforms without warrants or individual identification accosting American citizens on the street demanding proof of citizenship.

I've searched for how many American citizens ICE murdered under the Obama administration, on camera, one of whom had already been disarmed of his legally carried 2nd amendment firearm and was on his hands and knees when he was shot multiple times in the back execution style. I've searched for when Obama told elected Republican representatives that he would call off ICE if they gave him the state's voter information, implying that finding illegal immigrants wasn't ever really the goal.

Seems like Republicans would have been screaming with existential butthurt about oppressive government had any of these things happened under Obama, but oddly I can't find a mention of any of it anywhere. Does Greenman know he's lying, or is he so isolated and pig-ignorant that he just assumes what he's told is true without even trying to validate any of it, or confirm for himself what might actually be happening in this country? I have given up hope of ever knowing.

That's why I asked if he was doing a bit or if he actually believed it. No response, I think "intentionally ignorant" is probably most accurate, he simply decides what he thinks is true and believes that, he is not easily swayed by verifiable facts from independent sources, he mostly prefers sources that confirm his pre-existing belief.

 

[cytg111]

To my knowledge they cannot actually gain access to the content of Signal messages, but they can tell that you're using Signal.

Yes. And then all they really have to do is access your phone.

 

[esquared]

Yes. And then all they really have to do is access your phone.

But in Signal, you can have messages deleted by a set time. Such as a day, a week etc.
How would anyone recovery deleted Signal messages if they are off your phone?

 

[Brainonska511]

But in Signal, you can have messages deleted by a set time. Such as a day, a week etc.
How would anyone recovery deleted Signal messages if they are off your phone?

The reality is that Signal is likely going to be fine for most people. People are overblowing the need for "operational security", and such talk discourages people from joining protests.

 

[brycejones]

This whole post is an accidental indictment of how Trump's government is pointlessly cruel and incompetent since Obama achieved much higher numbers without mass oppression and executing American citizens on the street.

That's a bid deep for @Greenman to grasp.

 

[Perknose]

Philly DA Larry Krasner launches launches national DA coalition to battle Trump, prosecute ICE misconduct

"District Attorney Larry Krasner is organizing a crew to advance his frequent vow to prosecute any federal law enforcement officials who commit crimes.

Krasner and eight other progressive prosecutors from across the country have founded a coalition with the aim of helping each other litigate such cases, and raising funds to counter the U.S. Justice Department’s efforts to quash them."

Larry Krasner is a stand up guy and an absolute warrior for justice.

 

[cytg111]

But in Signal, you can have messages deleted by a set time. Such as a day, a week etc.
How would anyone recovery deleted Signal messages if they are off your phone?

Unless Signal features "undocumented features" - it cant.
But it wouldnt be too hard to detect a signal message going going to your phone, all they would have to do is access the message before you have a chance to delete it... I figure that is pretty easily automated.

edit: but there is ways around that, lets circle back to that if you get to that point.

 

[cytg111]

That's a bid deep for @Greenman to grasp.

It is amazing to watch green++ just move their "moral line in the sand" each time Fox++ says jump.
I figure it's like with religion for some folks, no thinking required, just do as your told. Easy life.

 

[HomerJS]

They can't. It's theater and will end up causing even more problems when people of limited understanding start thinking ICE agents are criminals. They'll start doing even stupider things than they already are and more of them will end up getting shot.
The place to fight against ICE is congress and the courts.

The Congress people like you voted for are just traitorous cowards. That’s why this continues

 

[HomerJS]

This is the kind of shit regimes do when they know they're doing wrong. And it's going to backfire like almost everything else these thugs do.

https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3mdj52ti2ck2r

Add her face to the wall of heroes

 

[Paratus]

But in Signal, you can have messages deleted by a set time. Such as a day, a week etc.
How would anyone recovery deleted Signal messages if they are off your phone?

Here’s the problem. If the person you are sending the signal to has hardware that is compromised then they can get your information that way.

Could google use android to take secret screenshots when Signal is in use on an Android phone?

Hell MS Copilot comes right out and records everything you do on your laptop if you don’t inhibit that function. Could those records be grabbed by MS or the Feds?

Signal is good and fine for most people but it does have some attack vectors.

Quite frankly you want ops sec.

• Get an arduino or ESP 32 and use an antenna and the A to D converter to record and convert some nice random static to random numbers.
• Store a TB worth on a micro SD card
• Give your bud a copy
• Use SD card random numbers starting with first digit to encrypt your message - preferably on a laptop that is not connected to the internet.
• Send message via whatever means your want. Electronic or snail mail.
• Friend decrypts using his SD card copy of numbers on an unconnected laptop.
• As long as numbers are truly random it’s unbreakable without a copy of the numbers.