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nakedfrog

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I seem to recall a study at one point that linked those that self identified as conservative/republican with a measurable difference in the fear functions of the brain.

But yes, the whole recent crumbling of their gun support does point out that they're just terrified of everything. They don't actually believe in the 2A, they just need it to feel tough/safe.
This particular study cites a number of others regarding the overall threat/fear response associated with conservatism.

 
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Moonbeam

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That was the man they murdered and the man being dishonored and vilified by this ignoble administration. Shame! NEVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN!
Sorry,I voted for the one who last ran against Diane Feinstein. I figured, why not the real thing.
 

fskimospy

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Kinda.

I don't think anyone in Europe sees Trump as an ally right now, not in the traditional sense. Real allies aren't 'transactional,' they don't join the other side. That latest round of draft dodger disrespect towards EU war dead was pretty low, even for a dipshit with dementia and piss for cranial contents. That's gonna stick.

Meloni tolerates him better than many, but don't fool yourself into thinking she's on his team. Greenland, NATO, international law, she's been pretty quick on criticizing Trump over those. Trying to balance out doing jack shit for Gaza maybe. She, historically, is sensitive when it comes to chauvinism I think. Just imagine what she says about this clown in private, like after he points out her feminine good looks to an entire diplomatic press gathering.

I believe her professional determination is having a tough time overriding her creep alarm. And her nose. Remember that summit in Egypt when he wouldn't let go of people?

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I think the main issue is Trump doesn't actually care about the future of the US and therefore is not following game theory the way most countries do.

Generally speaking countries try to keep their word when they make agreements because future agreements depend on some sort of credibility and international relations is a repeated game. People remember when you fuck them over and look for ways to either get even or at least not put themselves in a position to be fucked over again. Trump seems to share our belief (hope?) that he will be dead soon and since what happens after he dies is irrelevant to him he's free to shred US credibility for short term advantage.

Unfortunately we will be stuck dealing with this for years or decades but again, Trump doesn't give a single shit about anyone but himself.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Dems had better not cave or they are cooked for the midterms. Even if it takes another shutdown
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Moonbeam

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Can’t you just see, if the Democrats regain the three branches, prison terms for all those who have supported Trump in his efforts to destroy the country as justice demands. I can’t. I think we have earned what we get which is nothing. A national of fools shouting fuck me.
 

eelw

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Can’t you just see, if the Democrats regain the three branches, prison terms for all those who have supported Trump in his efforts to destroy the country as justice demands. I can’t. I think we have earned what we get which is nothing. A national of fools shouting fuck me.
Lol there’s no justification to prosecute most of this administration and even some members of congress?
 

MrSquished

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Can’t you just see, if the Democrats regain the three branches, prison terms for all those who have supported Trump in his efforts to destroy the country as justice demands. I can’t. I think we have earned what we get which is nothing. A national of fools shouting fuck me.
The Dem establishment does not have the ethics nor stones to prosecute the traitors anywhere near what they deserve if the establishment is not overthrown by actual effective lawmakers.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Not surprising though.

Well, your epiphany does align with research, couching it in the term of "cowardice" is a bit loaded, but conservatives do appear to generally have a larger amygdala, and the amygdala governs fear and anxiety.
Compounded by no sense of proportion.
 

K1052

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Miller and Noem trying to knife each other in the open shows how serious it is this time. They’ve done nothing but double down on unpopular stuff but this time they going after each other about whose fault it is. Given the just public reaction of many GOPs and the absolute disaster unfolding in the polling Trump is liable to be looking for another head jus because he’s pissed off.
 

cytg111

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Tiktok users complain that anti-ICE posts wont upload, Tiktok says "tech issue". I dont think there is much trust in what Tiktok says anymore...

And this has resulted in..


Yea it's censoring mentions of "Epstein" too

Thank you Larry Ellison.

So. I guess they're coming for your 1st AND your 2nd at the same time.
 

trenchfoot

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Miller and Noem trying to knife each other in the open shows how serious it is this time. They’ve done nothing but double down on unpopular stuff but this time they going after each other about whose fault it is. Given the just public reaction of many GOPs and the absolute disaster unfolding in the polling Trump is liable to be looking for another head jus because he’s pissed off.

Oh for sure he'll be looking to mount some cabinet flunky's head on a pike "that he hardly knew" to make sacrificial lemmings out of them. Although they're following his direct orders, in his mind if things go sideways it's because they just didn't follow his orders the way they're supposed to. Meaning, if there's any backfiring going on from his directives, it's not only the Secret Service personnel that has to die protecting him from harm.

How his hired morons can put up with Trump's myopic selfishness I'll never know nor understand.
 

HomerJS

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Wow. Check this out
Federal immigration officers have been collecting personal information about protesters and agitators in Minneapolis, sources told CNN – and had documented details about Alex Pretti before he was shot to death on Saturday.

It is unclear how Pretti first came to the attention of federal authorities, but sources told CNN that about a week before his death, he suffered a broken rib when a group of federal officers tackled him while he was protesting their attempt to detain other individuals.
 
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