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cytg111

Lifer
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You guys realize that this white woman paid with her life cause she put her own body between goons and brown people right? You sure you wanna play a reverse uno on this one?
 
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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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It's "fun" for us yerpeons watching all day and night muricans blabbing about their second amendment and their God give right to bear guns and protect from the gubernment and aliens invading, but when the situation actually arrives all I hear is "but they have bigger guns" and "can't protest, I will lose my job". Land of the free, home of the brave. In a propaganda center, near you.

PS - I'm not talking about people here, but the vibe coming from the social media. You laughed about France being pussies, easily conquered, etc... but they burn the fuk out of the government for the tiniest of grievance.
The engine of violence is slow to get smoldering, but very quick to light and spread. And only fucking morons and children laugh about the French, they're basically smart WH40k Orks.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Verstehen nicht. Cant the two bodies of Congress *impeach* and *remove* a sitting president?
Suppose Congress did that, where do you see the chain of events break short of successful execution?
Trump was impeached twice first term but you need 67 in the Senate for removal and Republicans have no spine or moral core
 
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Greenman

Lifer
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You guys realize that this white woman paid with her life cause she put her own body between goons and brown people right? You sure you wanna play a reverse uno on this one?
That's an interesting take on the situation, and probably what she was thinking. The reality is that she interfered in an ongoing and legal police action, ignored a legal order to step out of her vehicle when confronted by ICE agents, decided to flee rather than face arrest, and put an Ice agent at risk.
I think the shooting was unnecessary, but I wasn't the one looking at the car coming at me, nor did the agent have the benefit of three different viewing angles. The fellow had half a second to make a decision, I think he made the wrong one, but it's really easy say that sitting in my comfortable chair and watching it from 3 different perspective's.
A car is just a car until it's accelerating toward you, then it's a deadly weapon.
 

pauldun170

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That's an interesting take on the situation, and probably what she was thinking. The reality is that she interfered in an ongoing and legal police action, ignored a legal order to step out of her vehicle when confronted by ICE agents, decided to flee rather than face arrest, and put an Ice agent at risk.
I think the shooting was unnecessary, but I wasn't the one looking at the car coming at me, nor did the agent have the benefit of three different viewing angles. The fellow had half a second to make a decision, I think he made the wrong one, but it's really easy say that sitting in my comfortable chair and watching it from 3 different perspective's.
A car is just a car until it's accelerating toward you, then it's a deadly weapon.
No police were involved.
No legal action was taken by ICE agents.
 

K1052

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That's an interesting take on the situation, and probably what she was thinking. The reality is that she interfered in an ongoing and legal police action, ignored a legal order to step out of her vehicle when confronted by ICE agents, decided to flee rather than face arrest, and put an Ice agent at risk.
I think the shooting was unnecessary, but I wasn't the one looking at the car coming at me, nor did the agent have the benefit of three different viewing angles. The fellow had half a second to make a decision, I think he made the wrong one, but it's really easy say that sitting in my comfortable chair and watching it from 3 different perspective's.
A car is just a car until it's accelerating toward you, then it's a deadly weapon.

Does your appetite for boot know no limits?
 

HomerJS

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That's an interesting take on the situation, and probably what she was thinking. The reality is that she interfered in an ongoing and legal police action, ignored a legal order to step out of her vehicle when confronted by ICE agents, decided to flee rather than face arrest, and put an Ice agent at risk.
I think the shooting was unnecessary, but I wasn't the one looking at the car coming at me, nor did the agent have the benefit of three different viewing angles. The fellow had half a second to make a decision, I think he made the wrong one, but it's really easy say that sitting in my comfortable chair and watching it from 3 different perspective's.
A car is just a car until it's accelerating toward you, then it's a deadly weapon.
The car was not coming towards him. Where he was standing he could see the woman turn her wheel to make a right turn away from him. There was another agent on the left side of her that didn’t feel the need to draw his gun.

You also omit there were multiple witnesses who said she was told to leave. You can clearly see that is what she was trying to do.

If you are on a road and an unmarked car pulls up behind you and bunch of guys in masks with no ID jump out are you staying there or taking off?

Also DHS clearly lied about the facts at the scene which shows conscienceless of guilt. This woman was murdered. Hopefully a proper investigation by STATE authorities will bear that out. Federal authorities have already lied and cannot be trusted.
 

Pontius Dilate

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That's an interesting take on the situation, and probably what she was thinking. The reality is that she interfered in an ongoing and legal police action, ignored a legal order to step out of her vehicle when confronted by ICE agents, decided to flee rather than face arrest, and put an Ice agent at risk.
I think the shooting was unnecessary, but I wasn't the one looking at the car coming at me, nor did the agent have the benefit of three different viewing angles. The fellow had half a second to make a decision, I think he made the wrong one, but it's really easy say that sitting in my comfortable chair and watching it from 3 different perspective's.
A car is just a car until it's accelerating toward you, then it's a deadly weapon.
Probably what she was thinking was she was afraid for her life since she had been told to leave, was trying to leave, and then one ICE agent tried to violently pull her door open and another came around the front of her vehicle putting himself in "danger" and pointed his pistol at her which he then unloaded in her face. I guess you didn't watch the videos. Bootlicker.
 
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JD50

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That's an interesting take on the situation, and probably what she was thinking. The reality is that she interfered in an ongoing and legal police action, ignored a legal order to step out of her vehicle when confronted by ICE agents, decided to flee rather than face arrest, and put an Ice agent at risk.
I think the shooting was unnecessary, but I wasn't the one looking at the car coming at me, nor did the agent have the benefit of three different viewing angles. The fellow had half a second to make a decision, I think he made the wrong one, but it's really easy say that sitting in my comfortable chair and watching it from 3 different perspective's.
A car is just a car until it's accelerating toward you, then it's a deadly weapon.
If he was actually in danger of being run over he would not have had time to draw his weapon and shoot the woman through the drivers side window. Simply "fleeing" does not warrant the use of deadly force. Source - former cop who ACTUALLY got trained on this shit.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Probably what she was thinking was she was afraid for her life since she had been told to leave, was trying to leave, and then one ICE agent tried to violently pull her door open and another came around the front of her vehicle putting himself in "danger" and pointed his pistol at her which he then unloaded in her face. I guess you didn't watch the videos. Bootlicker.
He has probably watched the video ten times loving seeing a Kamala voter get gunned down by a fellow nazi.
 

HomerJS

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That renders Congress inconsequential. Leaves me asking what action can they preform?
They have no meaningful role in this tyrannical and murderous government.

Therefore the midterms are nothing. Only the 2028 election matters, in terms of civil discourse at the federal level.
Until then, it is up to the Governors, State and City governments to seek justice and protect the American people.
Midterms get you accountability and holds WH in check. If Dems take over House and Senate Trumps agenda comes to a halt and real hearings begin. 2028 gets you policy changes
 

brycejones

Lifer
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That's an interesting take on the situation, and probably what she was thinking. The reality is that she interfered in an ongoing and legal police action, ignored a legal order to step out of her vehicle when confronted by ICE agents, decided to flee rather than face arrest, and put an Ice agent at risk.
I think the shooting was unnecessary, but I wasn't the one looking at the car coming at me, nor did the agent have the benefit of three different viewing angles. The fellow had half a second to make a decision, I think he made the wrong one, but it's really easy say that sitting in my comfortable chair and watching it from 3 different perspective's.
A car is just a car until it's accelerating toward you, then it's a deadly weapon.
Which is why police are trained to not stand in front of the car. BTW his actions were contrary to SCOTUS rulings and DOJ policies on the use of force.
 
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Greenman

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He has probably watched the video ten times loving seeing a Kamala voter get gunned down by a fellow nazi.
You're a seriously sick motherfucker, and surprisingly stupid.
This is partially my fault as I know that many of you view the world through a lens of hate. But every so often I decide to post a thought and inevitably all the little beta males have to flex their little e muscles and pretend to be tough guys. As always I shake my head and wonder why I bother ever posting anything as the result is absolutely predictable.

One more idiot to add to the ignore list.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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It's "fun" for us yerpeons watching all day and night muricans blabbing about their second amendment and their God give right to bear guns and protect from the gubernment and aliens invading, but when the situation actually arrives all I hear is "but they have bigger guns" and "can't protest, I will lose my job". Land of the free, home of the brave. In a propaganda center, near you.

PS - I'm not talking about people here, but the vibe coming from the social media. You laughed about France being pussies, easily conquered, etc... but they burn the fuk out of the government for the tiniest of grievance.
I’ve always said about 2A if the government really wants to get you ain’t nothing you can own going to stop them. 2A to stop tyrannical government has always been a tough guy talking point

What most of us know if we start shooting at federal LE martial law is declared and the military is turned on US citizens. Courts would actually sustain under those circumstances.

Trump is looking for a way to enact it that will be sustained by courts.