Ice Core Data from the last 1/2 Million years with respect to CO2 levels etc. Graph!

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PlasmaBomb

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Nov 19, 2004
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I was just trying to point to how green house gases can multiple the effects of solar radiation. The average temperature on Venus is way more than 2x that of Earth's average.

You are quite correct, the mean temperature of Venus is 2.56 times that of the Earth...

And how much more CO2 than on Earth does it take to achieve this feat?

Venus has ~222000x more CO2 than Earth...
 

BeauJangles

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Aug 26, 2001
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I can't understand how anyone doesn't look at that second graph shown and realize man made global warming is a joke?

It's pretty freaking simple. A. CO2 FOLLOWS rise in global temperature. It does not CAUSE it. B. Going back as far as 400,000 years ago, you can see the temperatures rise and fall in a cyclical pattern. There was no man made CO2 until the last 200 years or so. If that's the case, what the fuck caused the global warming in the past? And why in the hell would you assume that us going into a cyclical global warming period is this time caused by something different than what has caused it over the last 400,000 years? It doesn't make ANY FREAKING SENSE.

I wish that people would read the chapter on the carbon cycle in Bill Bryson's Book A Short History of Nearly Everything. IMO he does a good job of laying out why fucking with the carbon cycle is an extraordinarily bad idea and how, even though humans are a small contributor to the overall amount of carbon, that small amount could trigger a catastrophic failure of the cycle. Such a failure would be something that we would be unlikely to survive (as would 99% of the other species on earth).
 

JTsyo

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Nov 18, 2007
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You are quite correct, the mean temperature of Venus is 2.56 times that of the Earth...

And how much more CO2 than on Earth does it take to achieve this feat?

Venus has ~222000x more CO2 than Earth...

I get 33 times as much using numbers from wiki. 461C for Venus and 14C for earth.

But really we're a bit off-topic with this. Like I said the point I was trying to make was that the extra CO2 would add to the natural warming cycle.
 
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Hacp

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I get 33 times as much using numbers from wiki. 461C for Venus and 14C for earth.

But really we're a bit off-topic with this. Like I said the point I was trying to make was that the extra CO2 would add to the natural warming cycle.

And you're an idiot lol. No one uses Celsius.
 

Toastedlightly

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Aug 7, 2004
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I wish that people would read the chapter on the carbon cycle in Bill Bryson's Book A Short History of Nearly Everything. IMO he does a good job of laying out why fucking with the carbon cycle is an extraordinarily bad idea and how, even though humans are a small contributor to the overall amount of carbon, that small amount could trigger a catastrophic failure of the cycle. Such a failure would be something that we would be unlikely to survive (as would 99% of the other species on earth).

So what is this failure? Does the north atlantic current stop and HUGE cyclones of snow and ice come down from the north!?