IB is not 77W but 95W!!

[Mars999]

Ugh!!!

http://www.nordichardware.com/news/...-tdp-worse-overclocker-than-sandy-bridge.html

 

[Termie]

In the words of the late Steve Jobs, Sandy Bridge was "insanely great!" Faster, lower power, better overclocking, integrated GPU, etc., etc. That made it a tough act to follow.

Ivy Bridge is looking like a tremendous letdown, not quite Bulldozer-esque, but close. Let's just hope Intel is using this as a test vehicle for manufacturing tech that it will apply to greater effect in Haswell.

 

[Don Karnage]

Where's my Violin for all the whiners

 

[Maximilian]

Lame :|

 

[Mars999]

I decided awhile ago that I am not getting an IB CPU, but waiting for Haswell and if Haswell doesn't give much of a speed boost over IB than Broadwell.... I want more performance dam it and not 5-15%. My i7 2600K is rocking for now and will be for awhile I guess...

 

[Don Karnage]

Cpuz states 77w.

 

[fixbsod]

unclear if only 3770k 95w or if 3570s also ...

I don't trust CPU-Z all that much considering it STILL can't read the vcore off my Gigabyte board yet every single other utility I have ever tried does so without issue.

 

[jpiniero]

Could Intel be releasing 3770k 95W parts to start because of process issues?

And I think it's only the HT ones that are going to 95W.

 

[frostedflakes]

Previews/reviews so far with power consumption measurements all seem to confirm 77W TDP as well. But who knows, things can always change between now and final release. Maybe they don't have enough good bins for 77W 3770K chips and decided to create a 95W SKU until yields improve. Or maybe it's just a typo on the box.

 

[Coup27]

I find it very unlikely that Intel will release a batch of 95W CPUs while they are still refining the manufacturing process and in a few months the same CPUs will be 77W. That's what they spend all those months doing QA, validation and testing for. Smells more like BS to me at the moment.

 

[Eddward]

TDP in CPU-Z will be changed after launch I guess.

 

[Mars999]

Well if all the rumors are true that people are having higher heat readings on the IB CPU's they are running, then I can see this as true.

IMO looks like Intel is going to have to find a different way of moving the heat off the die vs. the cheap heat shield they use now... How about a copper plate version?

 

[Smoblikat]

Cpuz states 77w.

Thats a 3570, maybe the 3770 is the only one with 95w. You should do some real testing from the wall to see how many watts youre using, subtract the amount of watts from your GPU and a little for RAM and HDD's and get a rough estimate.

 

[Smoblikat]

Well if all the rumors are true that people are having higher heat readings on the IB CPU's they are running, then I can see this as true.

IMO looks like Intel is going to have to find a different way of moving the heat off the die vs. the cheap heat shield they use now... How about a copper plate version?

Going from aluminum to copper wont do anything but raise prices. Right now the heat is so concentrated in one small area that air and liquid cant dissipate it fast enough since the surface area is so small.

 

[frostedflakes]

The IHS is already copper I believe. They have a nickel coating to prevent oxidation of the copper. It's the same for the heatsink bases and heatpipes on more expensive coolers, the nickel coating gives them the appearance of aluminum but they are actually copper.

 

[podspi]

Before we call IB a failure, let's wait to see the ULV line. Intel knows where the future is, and it sadly isn't triple-digit watt screamers :|

 

[postmortemIA]

Cpuz states 77w.

are you sure that cpuz can ask cpu what is its tdp ?
or it pulls number from its database.
this does not mean much for people who are not going to overclock (oems and such), unless it has problems with heat on stock frequency.

 

[Don Karnage]

Does Z77 utilize the igp? Could it possibly be skewing the results by adding more heat? When I get home im going to play with the igp voltage. Reason I ask is because of lucid mvp

 

[IntelUser2000]

Review of Xeon E3 v2 "Ivy Bridge": http://www.expreview.com/19072-all.html

Supposedly E1 is retail stepping. We are seeing expected power reductions there, so I can't see why stock TDP has to be changed.

The question is with overclocking.

 

[nyker96]

I hate the part of 200-300Mhz less OC room compare to Sandy. That's just sad.

 

[SickBeast]

As bad as it is that Ivy Bridge failed, AMD needs that leeway to catch up.

 

[Don Karnage]

As bad as it is that Ivy Bridge failed, AMD needs that leeway to catch up.

What exactly has Ivy Bridge failed at? Still 7-8% faster then sandy bridge clock for clock. Whats the average 2500K overclock on air? 4.6? 4.8Ghz?

4.6Ghz seems to be the sweet spot on the 3570K. 4600 X 1.08 = 4968mhz. How many 5Ghz 2500K's do you see running around on air?

Point is guys. Just because it can't do 5.2 on air doesn't make it a failure

 

[HexiumVII]

Maybe Ivy got delayed because they had to reprint all the 77w packages. Lol. Nevertheless TDP the processors of the series and can go down with new stepping. Its also like everything else, just a marketing number nowadays, when you compared AMD and Intel TDPs they are not very comparable, and its even murky when comparing same processor series. Oh well, still waiting for my Ivy in a few weeks!

 

[IntelUser2000]

Its also like everything else, just a marketing number nowadays, when you compared AMD and Intel TDPs they are not very comparable,

It used to be different but that's not true anymore. It's merely a worst case scenario a system and heatsink designer should watch out for.

Advanced power management systems keep CPU under TDP even in cases where it would have exceeded it before such power management came into place. CPUs are so powerful nowadays its hard to find a real world application that can keep it at TDP levels. As such, modern CPUs stay far under TDP.

Nowadays the thing to watch out for is power consumption under a specific application that its being made to run.

 

[Smoblikat]

What exactly has Ivy Bridge failed at? Still 7-8% faster then sandy bridge clock for clock. Whats the average 2500K overclock on air? 4.6? 4.8Ghz?

4.6Ghz seems to be the sweet spot on the 3570K. 4600 X 1.08 = 4968mhz. How many 5Ghz 2500K's do you see running around on air?

Point is guys. Just because it can't do 5.2 on air doesn't make it a failure

Mine can do 5ghz on air.