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Quasmo

Quasmo

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TallBill

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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For the 11teenth time, you must pm me all the info. I think there are a few people who have sent incomplete pm's or none at all. If your name isn't on the list on the front page then you haven't pm'd me with full info. 4 days left to enter.
 
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Coquito

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irishScott

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: Megatomic
I know a sure fire way to get into shape: The Cadence Kona Challenge. Anyone else intersted? I signed up and my fingers are crossed!! :)
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Meh. Too much running :p

I've actually read that if you burn more than 6000 calories per week, your body suffers more than it gains. Also, running is way to hard on the joints. Generic jogging is fine, but training for a marathon/triathlon? Long term joint damage FTL.
 
UNCjigga

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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I'd join this, but then everyone here would know I have huge manboobs!

Wait...DOH!
 
Megatomic

Megatomic

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
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You compensate for the huge calorie burn by taking in an equal amount of calories plus a bit more to compensate for muscle growth. My BMR is 1800, and my exercise related calorie expenditure is about 1500 per day. I'm not seeing any negative effects in my health at all. And my knees and ankles are in much better condition now than they were two years ago. No more creaking and crackling and stiffness.

I'm seriously excited about triathlon and it's my ultimate fitness motivator. :thumbsup:
 
irishScott

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: Megatomic
You compensate for the huge calorie burn by taking in an equal amount of calories plus a bit more to compensate for muscle growth. My BMR is 1800, and my exercise related calorie expenditure is about 1500 per day. I'm not seeing any negative effects in my health at all. And my knees and ankles are in much better condition now than they were two years ago. No more creaking and crackling and stiffness.

I'm seriously excited about triathlon and it's my ultimate fitness motivator. :thumbsup:
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It doesn't have to do with the calorie intake specifically. The book (Written by that Dr. Oz guy) just uses it as a measure for how much stress your body endures, and how much is too much.

He actually uses the Governator himself as an example. Arnold himself acknowledges that his body is slowing down because of his age AND because of his overtaxing it for years.

The effects aren't immediate, but there are plenty of marathoners out there who have horrible arthritis when they hit their 40s, while the non-super athletes can move freely.

I'm planning long-term here. I want to be as healthy as I can possibly and practically be; for the rest of my life. Not just the present.

 
Megatomic

Megatomic

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
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Link me to the book you're talking about? I'm not familiar with "Dr. Oz", so I'm just a tad skeptical about what I'm reading here. And no, I'm not going to argue that endurance sports don't take their toll, that'd be stupid on my part. But I'm starting late in life (I'm 37) and a few years of extreme athleticism isn't going to make an instant old man out of my body. Besides, it's a risk I'm more than willing to take to make my dream come true. Aside from my children, hearing "Jeff Faulkner, you are an Ironman" will be a crown jewel for me.

As to Arnie, the juice he took back in the day may play a significant factor in his declining health and well-being. I've yet to juice up and I do everything by the book nutritionally and ergonomically.
 
DangerAardvark

DangerAardvark

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Oct 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: Megatomic
I know a sure fire way to get into shape: The Cadence Kona Challenge. Anyone else intersted? I signed up and my fingers are crossed!! :)
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Meh. Too much running :p

I've actually read that if you burn more than 6000 calories per week, your body suffers more than it gains. Also, running is way to hard on the joints. Generic jogging is fine, but training for a marathon/triathlon? Long term joint damage FTL.
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Are you kidding? You'd have to be a convalescent midget to burn less than 6000 calories per week.
 
Safeway

Safeway

Lifer
Jun 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: Megatomic
Link me to the book you're talking about? I'm not familiar with "Dr. Oz", so I'm just a tad skeptical about what I'm reading here. And no, I'm not going to argue that endurance sports don't take their toll, that'd be stupid on my part. But I'm starting late in life (I'm 37) and a few years of extreme athleticism isn't going to make an instant old man out of my body. Besides, it's a risk I'm more than willing to take to make my dream come true. Aside from my children, hearing "Jeff Faulkner, you are an Ironman" will be a crown jewel for me.

As to Arnie, the juice he took back in the day may play a significant factor in his declining health and well-being. I've yet to juice up and I do everything by the book nutritionally and ergonomically.
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I am going to agree with Mega. All the people that I know who ran marathons and participated in triathlons are in amazing shape in there 60s and 70s. No arthritis, no weak bones, ... I say the benefits of training for a triathlon far exceeds the drawbacks. Triathlon training combines two low impact sports (swimming and cycling) with a medium impact sport (running). It's a great, full-body combo.
 
irishScott

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
21,562
3
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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: Megatomic
I know a sure fire way to get into shape: The Cadence Kona Challenge. Anyone else intersted? I signed up and my fingers are crossed!! :)
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Meh. Too much running :p

I've actually read that if you burn more than 6000 calories per week, your body suffers more than it gains. Also, running is way to hard on the joints. Generic jogging is fine, but training for a marathon/triathlon? Long term joint damage FTL.
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Are you kidding? You'd have to be a convalescent midget to burn less than 6000 calories per week.
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Meaning 6000 calories from exercise alone.
 
irishScott

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
21,562
3
0
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Link me to the book you're talking about? I'm not familiar with "Dr. Oz", so I'm just a tad skeptical about what I'm reading here. And no, I'm not going to argue that endurance sports don't take their toll, that'd be stupid on my part. But I'm starting late in life (I'm 37) and a few years of extreme athleticism isn't going to make an instant old man out of my body. Besides, it's a risk I'm more than willing to take to make my dream come true. Aside from my children, hearing "Jeff Faulkner, you are an Ironman" will be a crown jewel for me.

As to Arnie, the juice he took back in the day may play a significant factor in his declining health and well-being. I've yet to juice up and I do everything by the book nutritionally and ergonomically.
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I am going to agree with Mega. All the people that I know who ran marathons and participated in triathlons are in amazing shape in there 60s and 70s. No arthritis, no weak bones, ... I say the benefits of training for a triathlon far exceeds the drawbacks. Triathlon training combines two low impact sports (swimming and cycling) with a medium impact sport (running). It's a great, full-body combo.
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Link to book:
http://www.amazon.com/YOU-Owne...&qid=1185554549&sr=8-1

He apparently comes on Oprah once a month, so my mom got the book. Some pretty enlightening stuff in there.
 
Quasmo

Quasmo

Diamond Member
Jul 7, 2004
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Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Link me to the book you're talking about? I'm not familiar with "Dr. Oz", so I'm just a tad skeptical about what I'm reading here. And no, I'm not going to argue that endurance sports don't take their toll, that'd be stupid on my part. But I'm starting late in life (I'm 37) and a few years of extreme athleticism isn't going to make an instant old man out of my body. Besides, it's a risk I'm more than willing to take to make my dream come true. Aside from my children, hearing "Jeff Faulkner, you are an Ironman" will be a crown jewel for me.

As to Arnie, the juice he took back in the day may play a significant factor in his declining health and well-being. I've yet to juice up and I do everything by the book nutritionally and ergonomically.
Click to expand...

I am going to agree with Mega. All the people that I know who ran marathons and participated in triathlons are in amazing shape in there 60s and 70s. No arthritis, no weak bones, ... I say the benefits of training for a triathlon far exceeds the drawbacks. Triathlon training combines two low impact sports (swimming and cycling) with a medium impact sport (running). It's a great, full-body combo.
Click to expand...

Link to book:
http://www.amazon.com/YOU-Owne...&qid=1185554549&sr=8-1

He apparently comes on Oprah once a month, so my mom got the book. Some pretty enlightening stuff in there.
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My GF just got the book, it tells you to have sex when you feel hungry. I can't wait to start this diet.
 
irishScott

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
21,562
3
0
Just looked through the book (I got the number wrong by 500 calories):

"by burning more than 6500 calories per week, you actually decrease your longevity because of the wear and tear your body endures going through the rigors of additional exercise. (a fifty-five year old man who burns 6,500 calories a week has the body of a forty-seven year old man, while a fifty-five year old man who burns more than that has the body of a fifty-two year old man)."
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Myth or Fact? Training for marathons is healthy
Finishing a marathon will earn you many things: a medal, increased cardiovascular stamina, and blisters the size of Australia. While we respect marathoners and admire their passion, dedication, and athleticism, we can't endorse the training it takes to complete a 26.2 mile race. The constant pounding your joints take with every step increases the likelihood that you'll suffer from joint problems and osteoarthritis down the road. And once you exceed more than 18 to 20 miles, you are likely to be consuming your own muscle proteins to provide energy. Sure, we'd love to see you cross the finish line, but we'd also like to see you live your whole life in the best -- and youngest -- shape possible. To live long and young, you need to be physically active. But too much activity can actually put the accelerator on aging, instead of the brakes.
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Turin39789

Lifer
Nov 21, 2000
12,218
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I still need to get my blog going, I have one created on bodybuilding from awhile ago that I never used, but I simply can't fathom having the time to update it more than weekly. I have the pictures ready to go on my camera, just need to size them down and chop the head. My fiancee is interested in competing as well, but she hasn't committed and is pretty busy with her new job.

I have a question that will probably stump most people/will elict some educated guesses. I currently donating/selling plasma for some extra scratch on the side, does anyone know what if any effect this is going to have on my fitness goals?
 
crt1530

crt1530

Diamond Member
Apr 15, 2001
3,194
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Originally posted by: Quasmo
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Link me to the book you're talking about? I'm not familiar with "Dr. Oz", so I'm just a tad skeptical about what I'm reading here. And no, I'm not going to argue that endurance sports don't take their toll, that'd be stupid on my part. But I'm starting late in life (I'm 37) and a few years of extreme athleticism isn't going to make an instant old man out of my body. Besides, it's a risk I'm more than willing to take to make my dream come true. Aside from my children, hearing "Jeff Faulkner, you are an Ironman" will be a crown jewel for me.

As to Arnie, the juice he took back in the day may play a significant factor in his declining health and well-being. I've yet to juice up and I do everything by the book nutritionally and ergonomically.
Click to expand...
I am going to agree with Mega. All the people that I know who ran marathons and participated in triathlons are in amazing shape in there 60s and 70s. No arthritis, no weak bones, ... I say the benefits of training for a triathlon far exceeds the drawbacks. Triathlon training combines two low impact sports (swimming and cycling) with a medium impact sport (running). It's a great, full-body combo.
Click to expand...
Link to book:
http://www.amazon.com/YOU-Owne...&qid=1185554549&sr=8-1

He apparently comes on Oprah once a month, so my mom got the book. Some pretty enlightening stuff in there.
Click to expand...
My GF just got the book, it tells you to have sex when you feel hungry. I can't wait to start this diet.
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Is there a chapter entilted "Ejaculate: The Great Appetite Suppressant"?
 
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Dacalo

Diamond Member
Mar 31, 2000
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I am not officially in the contest, but it has been one month since I started to run regularly three times a week. I have lost about 7lbs and a waist size. I am 5'8" 145lbs currently. I am at fat shedding mode, so I do 40 min cardio and some weights. Once I am more fit, I will be starting HIIT.

Diet consists of fruit and a bowl of oat meal in the morning, sandwich with a lot of veggies (tomato, avocado, lettuce, onion) and slices of turkey breast, and dinner consisting of some mixed rice (brown and white) with veggie dishes/chicken/fish depending on the day.
 
Megatomic

Megatomic

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
20,127
6
81
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: Megatomic
I know a sure fire way to get into shape: The Cadence Kona Challenge. Anyone else intersted? I signed up and my fingers are crossed!! :)
Click to expand...

Meh. Too much running :p

I've actually read that if you burn more than 6000 calories per week, your body suffers more than it gains. Also, running is way to hard on the joints. Generic jogging is fine, but training for a marathon/triathlon? Long term joint damage FTL.
Click to expand...

Are you kidding? You'd have to be a convalescent midget to burn less than 6000 calories per week.
Click to expand...

Meaning 6000 calories from exercise alone.
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Lordie, I burn like 6000 calories from cardio exercise alone in 2 or 3 days. I have no idea how many I burn in my weight training sessions. I'd LOVE to have my metabolism tested at a high end training center. My guess is that I'd be up there where TallBill is on an average week.

I'm going to go with Safeway in his take on the fitness on triathletes and marathoners. Look at Dave Scott, the dude is a machine and in way better shape in all regards than most people decades younger than him. That man is my idol. :beer:
 
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