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i7 4770k new 3dmark physics test

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The power management is going to be Haswell's killer app. This is no small thing.

Also, I know the consensus is that Haswell is not going to bring OC gains, but I think the rumored(?) decoupling of the caches and the core are going to help reach those higher overclocks.
 
Termie said:
No I didn't. How would running with integrated graphics affect a measure that is clearly a CPU test?
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Zink said:
RAM bandwidth getting eaten up by the iGPU?
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IntelUser2000 said:
It sounds like it shouldn't, but it does. That's probably because even under 2D loads, there's some sharing going on with the iGPU.
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Yeah, that makes sense actually. While the graphics don't require much memory bandwidth, the physics test is very sensitive to bandwidth, so it would pick up a reduction in peak bandwidth, even if memory speed isn't typically the bottleneck in the test.
 
I think Intel have totally gone down the power management road and performance is now secondary for them when it comes to mainstream CPU's. Battery life on laptops is probably a bigger selling point for most people.

Gotta say, modern computing is getting boring. GPU's and CPU's really aren't firing the imagination anymore. I miss five years ago.
 
no surprise that intel taking the power management road. intel is simply following the money.

truth to be said.

would rather own a 14" sub 4lb notebook over a desktop. granted it could run bf3 at 1080p with all the eye candy on.
 
Magic done by Japanese hackers? 🙂
It looks like it can only CF with 6670 and 7670(and below),but not 7750. Maybe the user thought his HCF was working but in reality he only got his 2 discrete cards operating in parallel in that benchmark.
 
A low power consumption chip called "4770K"? Doubtful.

But the way Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50 Ghz is written there strikes me as odd. Typically they're called Processor in their specification, not CPU, and the clockspeed isn't part of their specification name either.
 
Piroko said:
A low power consumption chip called "4770K"? Doubtful.

But the way Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50 Ghz is written there strikes me as odd. Typically they're called Processor in their specification, not CPU, and the clockspeed isn't part of their specification name either.
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I noticed this as well. That's why I was unsure of what speed it would have actually been operating at.

Can we call this a fake yet?
 
StinkyPinky said:
I think Intel have totally gone down the power management road and performance is now secondary for them when it comes to mainstream CPU's. Battery life on laptops is probably a bigger selling point for most people.

Gotta say, modern computing is getting boring. GPU's and CPU's really aren't firing the imagination anymore. I miss five years ago.
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Even Intel knows not to throw good money into a sinking ship. Haswell is their best bet to grab tablets from ARM but expect them to shoot themselves into the foot by demanding high margins.
 
Termie said:
I noticed this as well. That's why I was unsure of what speed it would have actually been operating at.

Can we call this a fake yet?
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I think so. Sleep well Termie. Your 3770k is safe for awhile longer! Short of the actual testers of the Haswell we are all taking "stabs in the dark" about it's performance. Personally, I think it will slightly improve over your 3770k on overall performance with better power usage ( yours is great BTW). The big change will be a different mb socket. That's going to require big $$$ to switch over. Suffice it to say your 3770k rig is so fast now, what game can't it run well?😉
 
guskline said:
I think so. Sleep well Termie. Your 3770k is safe for awhile longer! Short of the actual testers of the Haswell we are all taking "stabs in the dark" about it's performance. Personally, I think it will slightly improve over your 3770k on overall performance with better power usage ( yours is great BTW). The big change will be a different mb socket. That's going to require big $$$ to switch over. Suffice it to say your 3770k rig is so fast now, what game can't it run well?😉
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LOL, thanks, guskline. Maybe a 3770k should be your next upgrade!

Honestly, each of the past few generations has been just an incremental jump, although when overclocking is taken into account the gap widens a bit between, say, Yorkfield and Nehalem, and then Nehalem and Sandy Bridge. I expect Haswell to be the smallest jump in a while in either IPC or overclocking, but a big one in efficiency over SB/IB.

And believe me, I absolutely appreciate improvements in energy efficiency, particularly idle efficiency, being provided by Intel. Either of my quads compared to my old e8400 dual core are just night and day in terms of idle energy efficiency.

As an aside, I'm proud to say I just cut 3-4 watts off my 3770k rig's idle power by adjusting the idle power phase management in the BIOS!
 
StrangerGuy said:
Even Intel knows not to throw good money into a sinking ship. Haswell is their best bet to grab tablets from ARM but expect them to shoot themselves into the foot by demanding high margins.
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Haswell will be the highest performing mobile(x86) and desktop uarchitecture, there is no doubt about that. How will it compete against ARM armada is to be seen,but in traditional markets it will be the best in class,period. Better than any IB out there,maybe not by much but still better. And this ain't no trivial task either 😉. IB set the bar VERY high.
 
Piroko said:
But the way Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50 Ghz is written there strikes me as odd. Typically they're called Processor in their specification, not CPU, and the clockspeed isn't part of their specification name either.
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Nothing odd about it, it seems to be a completely valid Intel CPU identification as returned by the CPUID instruction. I have "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz" in CPU-Z & Windows system information.

Of course the chip could be downclocked, the CPUID information only returns the nominal clockspeed.
 
Termie said:
As an aside, I'm proud to say I just cut 3-4 watts off my 3770k rig's idle power by adjusting the idle power phase management in the BIOS!
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Termie, its safe to say there's nothing to almost nothing in power improvements for desktop and high end mobile parts. It's only in mobile the power management features are relevant.
 
inf64 said:
Haswell will be the highest performing mobile(x86) and desktop uarchitecture, there is no doubt about that. How will it compete against ARM armada is to be seen,but in traditional markets it will be the best in class,period. Better than any IB out there,maybe not by much but still better. And this ain't no trivial task either 😉. IB set the bar VERY high.
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Sandy Bridge set the bar high- IB just nudged it up ever so slightly. Looks like Haswell will nudge it a bit more.
 
Sb/IB is practically the same thing 😉. The differences are trivial,I picked IB for comparison because of the more advanced fabrication process (that is on par with Haswell's).
 
At this point I'm likely to jump to Haswell just for the Z87 board features I expect to see rather than some watershed increase in performance over SB/IB. Hopefully prices don't jump to laughable.
 
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