I was only following orders!

[halik]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Ferocious

Private England said worse things than those shown in the photographs took place in Abu Ghraib prison. But, following her lawyer's advice, she did not give details.

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soldiers actually have a duty NOT to follow "unlawful orders"

the excuse(and yes, that is what it is) "well i was just folowing orders" is no excuse. just more of the moderen american penchant to make personal responsibility passe'

So the military culture would accept the whistleblower? They should have told on the order givers immediately, right?

WHAT THE FVCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?
A soldier has a duty to refuse an order that is unlawful. You will get automatically coutrmarshalled, but that will be thrown out as you disobeyed an order against geneva convenctions

Im sick of dumbasses calling everyone "Whitleblowers" because they have the courage to stand up against something that they feel is wrong. There were NO GODDAMN WHISTLEBLOWERS involved in this at any point, there were only people who CONDUCTED ACTS THAT ARE MORALLY WRONG.

 

[fjord]

Pvt. England exclusive interview

FAYETTEVILLE, N.C. (News 4) Army Pfc. Lynndie England, the American soldier at the center of the Iraqi prison abuse scandal, told News 4 reporter Brian Maass Tuesday night in an exclusive interview that her actions were not only condoned but also applauded by her superiors

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Ferocious

Private England said worse things than those shown in the photographs took place in Abu Ghraib prison. But, following her lawyer's advice, she did not give details.

click

soldiers actually have a duty NOT to follow "unlawful orders"

the excuse(and yes, that is what it is) "well i was just folowing orders" is no excuse. just more of the moderen american penchant to make personal responsibility passe'

So the military culture would accept the whistleblower? They should have told on the order givers immediately, right?

WHAT THE FVCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?
A soldier has a duty to refuse an order that is unlawful. You will get automatically coutrmarshalled, but that will be thrown out as you disobeyed an order against geneva convenctions

Im sick of dumbasses calling everyone "Whitleblowers" because they have the courage to stand up against something that they feel is wrong. There were NO GODDAMN WHISTLEBLOWERS involved in this at any point, there were only people who CONDUCTED ACTS THAT ARE MORALLY WRONG.

OH REALLY...

Who is Joseph Darby?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=iraq+prison+whistleblower

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Joseph+Darby

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Ferocious

Private England said worse things than those shown in the photographs took place in Abu Ghraib prison. But, following her lawyer's advice, she did not give details.

click

soldiers actually have a duty NOT to follow "unlawful orders"

the excuse(and yes, that is what it is) "well i was just folowing orders" is no excuse. just more of the moderen american penchant to make personal responsibility passe'

So the military culture would accept the whistleblower? They should have told on the order givers immediately, right?

WHAT THE FVCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?
A soldier has a duty to refuse an order that is unlawful. You will get automatically coutrmarshalled, but that will be thrown out as you disobeyed an order against geneva convenctions

Im sick of dumbasses calling everyone "Whitleblowers" because they have the courage to stand up against something that they feel is wrong. There were NO GODDAMN WHISTLEBLOWERS involved in this at any point, there were only people who CONDUCTED ACTS THAT ARE MORALLY WRONG.

OH REALLY...

Who is Joseph Darby?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=iraq+prison+whistleblower

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Joseph+Darby

he is not getting court martialed is he? teh "army culture" did not stop him did it? thanks for proving me right(as if i needed it anyway)

he did his duty and did not follow unlawful orders as defined by the UCMJ. in contrast to others...

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Ferocious

Private England said worse things than those shown in the photographs took place in Abu Ghraib prison. But, following her lawyer's advice, she did not give details.

click

soldiers actually have a duty NOT to follow "unlawful orders"

the excuse(and yes, that is what it is) "well i was just folowing orders" is no excuse. just more of the moderen american penchant to make personal responsibility passe'

So the military culture would accept the whistleblower? They should have told on the order givers immediately, right?

WHAT THE FVCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?
A soldier has a duty to refuse an order that is unlawful. You will get automatically coutrmarshalled, but that will be thrown out as you disobeyed an order against geneva convenctions

Im sick of dumbasses calling everyone "Whitleblowers" because they have the courage to stand up against something that they feel is wrong. There were NO GODDAMN WHISTLEBLOWERS involved in this at any point, there were only people who CONDUCTED ACTS THAT ARE MORALLY WRONG.

OH REALLY...

Who is Joseph Darby?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=iraq+prison+whistleblower

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Joseph+Darby

he is not getting court martialed is he? teh "army culture" did not stop him did it? thanks for proving me right(as if i needed it anyway)

he did his duty and did not follow unlawful orders as defined by the UCMJ. in contrast to others...

what the hell was he trying to argue? The guy did the right thing...

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Ferocious

Private England said worse things than those shown in the photographs took place in Abu Ghraib prison. But, following her lawyer's advice, she did not give details.

click

soldiers actually have a duty NOT to follow "unlawful orders"

the excuse(and yes, that is what it is) "well i was just folowing orders" is no excuse. just more of the moderen american penchant to make personal responsibility passe'

So the military culture would accept the whistleblower? They should have told on the order givers immediately, right?

WHAT THE FVCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?
A soldier has a duty to refuse an order that is unlawful. You will get automatically coutrmarshalled, but that will be thrown out as you disobeyed an order against geneva convenctions

Im sick of dumbasses calling everyone "Whitleblowers" because they have the courage to stand up against something that they feel is wrong. There were NO GODDAMN WHISTLEBLOWERS involved in this at any point, there were only people who CONDUCTED ACTS THAT ARE MORALLY WRONG.

OH REALLY...

Who is Joseph Darby?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=iraq+prison+whistleblower

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Joseph+Darby

he is not getting court martialed is he? teh "army culture" did not stop him did it? thanks for proving me right(as if i needed it anyway)

he did his duty and did not follow unlawful orders as defined by the UCMJ. in contrast to others...

You might be welcome to stroke your arrogance.. but answer this question
Did they give him an order to abuse the prisoners OR did he have knoledge of the abuses and then do something about it?