I was at the DC tea party yesterday...

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Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
The frontier wisdom and folksiness of Palin may grate on a metrosexual's ears, but it resonates powerfully in the heartland and may yet demonstrate itself in the future. With or without Palin herself, that future will have its roots in the crowds that turn out for these rallies.
I've come to the conclusion that PJABBER is so indoctrinated and brainwashed by Glenn Beck and the lunatic fringe political morons that he associates with, that he's completely incapable of expressing an objective opinion on anything of relevance.

PJABBER should now go fuck a cow while wearing a cowboy hat and never have anything to do with politics ever again.

Stay classy.
 

seemingly random

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I wasn't tea-baggin' in dc saturday. Somebody published these photos but then they're probably a lie - similar to those faked moon missions.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4...set-72157622224474669/
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Fucking morons.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4...set-72157622224474669/
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Kind, gentle tea baggers. I sure wish my kids had been there to see this.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4...set-72157622224474669/
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Religion in politics - always a deal breaker. Curious that this powerful god hasn't stepped up.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4...set-72157622224474669/
Corporation worship.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4...set-72157622224474669/
They missed the turnoff to the nascar race.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: OrByte


And I can't help but shake the feeling it is because their POTUS is a black man.

I am getting really really really really fucking sick of comments like this.

For the 1,000,000,000,000,000th time, it has NOTHING to do with his (or anyone's) skin color.

Please allow me to quote MLK JR:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

I am very confident that 99.999% of the people who marched on Washington yesterday are judging Obama by the latter (character) and NOT the former (skin color).

I am sorry to offend but your "99.999%" statistic is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.

Througout the election with McCain and Palin and Joe Biden and BHO...there was a nasty streak. Racism was alive and well...we all saw the rally's and the crazy people out there hurling racist insults.

I am sorry to report....but those people didn't just melt away. They are still out there. They still don't recognize the fact that a black man is now POTUS.

It may not be you, or anyone in your circle of family/friends....so consider yourself better off than those out there (Joe Wilson for example) that cannot fathom a Black man in office.

I am not one to take the "race card" lightly and just throw it out willynilly. But....Joe Wilson serves as a perfect example of someone that just cannot reconcile taking orders from a black man. He spoke up and raised his voice in anger because Obama got "uppity" the first time EVER a President was interrupted and singled out, called a LIAR in front of the whole freaking world. People, that is a staggering event, i cannot overstate just how much Joe Wilsons comment impacts politics today. But thats another thread...sorry.

It's still out there GT... racism..and these tea parties are a perfect venue for these people to vent and find a voice.

 

Engineer

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I remember a few conservatives on this board boasting how GWB rammed the Medicare Prescription Drug bill down the Democrats throat. When I mentioned that it was going against the principles of smaller government and lower spending, they just laughed and pointed out again how he rammed it down their (DEMs) throats. These same people are now complaining like scalded dogs...pretty damn funny...and hypocritical too!

Hypocrisy has no bounds! :D
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: OrByte


And I can't help but shake the feeling it is because their POTUS is a black man.

I am getting really really really really fucking sick of comments like this.

For the 1,000,000,000,000,000th time, it has NOTHING to do with his (or anyone's) skin color.

Please allow me to quote MLK JR:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

I am very confident that 99.999% of the people who marched on Washington yesterday are judging Obama by the latter (character) and NOT the former (skin color).

No. You're not. Your ilk was completely MIA during Bush's years. Obama is just continuing the tradition of presidential deficit spending since god knows when. The real reason for the anger and demonstrations is because Obama threatens the white power structure, on a subconscious level, the protesters absolutely hate the idea of a black man as president. I'll agree that a vocal minuscule minority comprised of Ron Paul bots (emphasis on minuscule) were consistent and spoke out against Bush's spending, but the VAST majority were comparatively silent. You're a lying sack of crap if you can't admit as much.

The man responsible for the popularization of the GOP Southern Strategy could probably explain it better if you still don't get it:

From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats

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And for the love of god, you ignorant simple minded conservatives have to stop quoting MLK as if he was one of your own. The man advocated Democratic Socialism and was anti-war. Even your fellow conservatives call you out on your hypocrisy.

Myth # 5: King supported the free market.

]You can?t talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can?t talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You?re really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry? Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong?with capitalism? There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a Democratic Socialism.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html
 

NeoV

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if some of you don't believe racism isn't a healthy portion of the right-wing anti-Obama crowd these days, you are living in a fantasy land

most of the people that I've talked to that were even aware these 'obama sucks' circle jerks are nothing more than Rush/Glenbeck/Fox news sheep that believe everything they hear from these 'sources' of news.

The level of ignorance in our country is absolutely staggering - they should make people take a test before they are allowed to vote
 

Fear No Evil

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Question anything a black President does.. and you are racist.. **SIGH** I guess when you are losing you pull out the race card.
 

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Question anything a black President does.. and you are racist.. **SIGH** I guess when you are losing you pull out the race card.
OR, you are subconsiously a racist. Phokus told us that. He knows all about subconscious neuroses, he hears the other inmates talk about them all the time.
 

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Question anything a black President does.. and you are racist.. **SIGH** I guess when you are losing you pull out the race card.

No, it does not...but bitching about this when many (not necessarily you) didn't say a word when Bush did it (or even thought it was great how he rammed his agenda down the Dem's throat) makes one a hypocrite on a large level.
 

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Question anything a black President does.. and you are racist.. **SIGH** I guess when you are losing you pull out the race card.
I seem to remember that anyone questioning the u.s. involvement in iraq was unpatriotic. Payback is a bitch.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Question anything a black President does.. and you are racist.. **SIGH** I guess when you are losing you pull out the race card.

Going batshit fucking crazy over something a black man does while never showing the same level of 'enthusiasm' against all his white predecessors for doing the same thing, guess what that makes you.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Question anything a black President does.. and you are racist.. **SIGH** I guess when you are losing you pull out the race card.

who is "losing" and what is it that is being "lost?"

being stuck in the "team" mentality doesn't do much good for you.

And...simply dismissing racism like so many in here do doesn't make it go away. Just ask Joe Wilson.
 

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
I wish I could go to one of these. Increasing spending/debt is a legitimate thing to protest, but if those protesting currently were to rise back into political power, we'd be stuck with the likes of Palin who would suddenly forget about that silly deficit nonsense. Reagan and Bush 2 were great at railing against spending all the while running up the national credit card with no plan to pay for it all. A return to their idealogies is the last thing this country needs in the next few elections. I suspect though, that they are protesting for many other reasons and only paying lipservice to the spending issue as a unifying element...

And thats the point most of the trolls are missing is that people are sick of the spending/corruption of both parties. regardless of if there is an R or a D after thier name.
 

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Question anything a black President does.. and you are racist.. **SIGH** I guess when you are losing you pull out the race card.
I seem to remember that anyone questioning the u.s. involvement in iraq was unpatriotic. Payback is a bitch.

That's really what this is all about, isn't it? Democrats want payback so they're going to act exactly like Republicans did for the past 8 years.

That's why I won't vote for any of the fuckers.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
I wish I could go to one of these. Increasing spending/debt is a legitimate thing to protest, but if those protesting currently were to rise back into political power, we'd be stuck with the likes of Palin who would suddenly forget about that silly deficit nonsense. Reagan and Bush 2 were great at railing against spending all the while running up the national credit card with no plan to pay for it all. A return to their idealogies is the last thing this country needs in the next few elections. I suspect though, that they are protesting for many other reasons and only paying lipservice to the spending issue as a unifying element...

And thats the point most of the trolls are missing is that people are sick of the spending/corruption of both parties. regardless of if there is an R or a D after thier name.

Too bad we're going to have to listen to several years of Democrats acting like children, only to have it flip to the Republicans again someday and listen to them take the same stance again. Rinse and repeat.

Frankly I hope the country does go to shit. Americans need to suffer. They've been spoon fed for too long.
 

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Question anything a black President does.. and you are racist.. **SIGH** I guess when you are losing you pull out the race card.
I seem to remember that anyone questioning the u.s. involvement in iraq was unpatriotic. Payback is a bitch.

That's really what this is all about, isn't it? Democrats want payback so they're going to act exactly like Republicans did for the past 8 years.

That's why I won't vote for any of the fuckers.
I certainly hope it's not what it's all about. I don't speak for democrats any more than you do. I do relish the republicans squirming at their hypocrisy though. Well, hopefully, they haven't lost all brain function and have an inkling that they should be uncomfortable with their actions - at the very least, their selectivity.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Question anything a black President does.. and you are racist.. **SIGH** I guess when you are losing you pull out the race card.
I seem to remember that anyone questioning the u.s. involvement in iraq was unpatriotic. Payback is a bitch.

That's really what this is all about, isn't it? Democrats want payback so they're going to act exactly like Republicans did for the past 8 years.

That's why I won't vote for any of the fuckers.
I certainly hope it's not what it's all about. I don't speak for democrats any more than you do. I do relish the republicans squirming at their hypocrisy though. Well, hopefully, they haven't lost all brain function and have an inkling that they should be uncomfortable with their actions - at the very least, their selectivity.

Do Republicans being hypocritical change ANYTHING about what Obama is doing? What he is doing is either RIGHT or WRONG.. it makes absolutely NO difference what the Republicans did before him. Judge Obama on Obama.
 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: OrByte

you talk about viewing life through filters. One symptom of such a disease is speaking in generalities...which you managed to accomplish quite well in your second paragraph.

The crowds are in fact humorous, and lively. I felt nary a threat walking through the crowd a few months ago here in Sacramento...as a matter of fact...I think people in the crowd felt more threatened by me! But I'm used to that (I'm a large mexican with a goatee...I tend to make the old white people nervous)

I don't see how you come to the conclusion that the crowds were mainly of the "independant" sort...that seems like a bit of wishful thinking on your part. These people are GOP thru and thru. The events are sponsored by GOP groups. The speakers were all GOP politicians and "heroes"...there were no pro-choice contingents...no gun control groups. Nothing remotely attractive to the more "moderate" of the political spectrum...save perhaps those opposed to "government spending"....and amongst the anti-abortionists, birthers, Secret Muslim believers, and the hicks with the "Stars and Bars" there were a few anti-government spending people in the crowd :p

Nice "metrosexual" jab too btw. Yes the "heartland" loves Palin. But that is because she is simple like them...I know that sounds condescending...but you should be used to that by now. :)

unfortunately....the GOP has already tapped into the "simple" demographic. There is no growth there. If Palin and her "simple" ilk were so attractive to the "Independent" and the Indy voter, we would be calling McCain Mr. President.

I was not in the crowd as a participant, so my contact with people was in passing through the area for about 45 minutes, chatting for a while while waiting for my friend (Asian) to show up and then spending about an hour and a half after the movie to wander around with her checking out the event activities as they were starting to wind down.

Like you, I can be a bit imposing. But, I had about 20 pleasant conversations, mostly asking people how they came up with the ideas for their signs and having a few laughs and chuckles. Living here you get to see a lot of demonstrations. You always see the same old boring group think signs bought and paid for by the unions and other shills. This was different - everyone seemed to have made their own creative sign or poster (or even costume for the more flamboyant in the bunch!) There were some common themes, but the vast majority were expressing their personal opinion in a very personal way. That was way cool to me!

I asked most of the people I spoke with if they were D, R or I and it was about evenly split, as was the geographic spread they came from. I was also just listening to passing discussions and watching how people were acting, sometimes the best way to judge a group. Like I said, a very friendly, upbeat crowd.

These were people that felt that the government works for them, not the other way around. Their taxes, their blood and their sweat paid for this place and they gave an impression of being very comfortable with being here to express their views. Maybe not entirely comfortable with demonstrating, but comfortable in being in a place where they have a hard won right to express a desire for representative government.

there were no pro-choice contingents...no gun control groups. Nothing remotely attractive to the more "moderate" of the political spectrum...save perhaps those opposed to "government spending"....and amongst the anti-abortionists, birthers, Secret Muslim believers, and the hicks with the "Stars and Bars" there were a few anti-government spending people in the crowd...

I would argue that most of the people there were anti-government spending, at least that was my passing impression based on the signs that I saw. Following that were all of the secondary issues. Hmmm. Based on your characterization, maybe the crowd was a bunch of strict Constitutionalists. I like that.

I also did not get the impression that these were "simple" folks. "Simple" folks tend to be couch potatoes, don't they? Passive? These were people on a mission, way outside of their comfort zone, mostly reflecting a quiet determination and an exhilaration attendant with being with like minded people, not an unruly mob. Everyone I spoke to came across as thoughtful. That has got to be scary to some politicians and maybe even to the lemming left.

I could not tell if they were Christians, per se. They were obviously not hip hoppers, gang bangers or posers, they did not curse in public or trash the place, they did not dress slovenly or show off a whole bunch of piercings and self mutilations, though many did bear tattoos with military references. I thought this huge crowd represented a fairly diverse cross section of most of this country with little of the dregs present. (Sorry if I offend any of you dregs out there... not!)

Though I myself did not see any pro-Palin demonstrations I did see more than a few signs in her support. You should know by now that most of those who love Palin did not particularly like McCain, mostly because he represented a compromise of conservative principles. That is why the press and the Obama campaign had to neutralize Palin by any means possible and still fears her resurgence.
 

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so, seems there is about 1 post about the event for every dozen or so trying to show how big of a dumbass you could be, keep up the good work guys.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Deliximus
I can see where overspending by the gov't is concerning. Where were these people when the deficit tripled under the last admin?

Finding their voices? LMFAO. They lost the ability to be taken seriously when they sat on their hands from 2001-2008 and anything they claim to the contrary is pure bullshit. I wonder if the OP and all the others know how foolish they look to the rest of the country having waited until Obama took office to give a shit about fiscal responsibility :laugh: