Mr. Lennon
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- Jul 2, 2004
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These tea parties sure bring out the classiest people.
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My comment to you was in response to you complaining about people using the 'race card'. It is certainly overused these days - just like the 'unpatriotic card' a few years ago. Living in the deep south, I know with 100% certainty that there are some people (including staunch democrats) who didn't vote for obama and think it's a sacrilege to have a black person in the white house. Immediately using 'any card' when someone disagrees with you is childish and disappointing. This includes people who preemptively start complaining about the possible use of the 'race card'. They are just as guilty as those who actually use it frivolously.
As far as obama doing anything wrong, I don't think enough time has passed yet for a valid judgement. obama haters say that they're upset with the amount of money being spent. The real money spent has been to bail out greedy financial institutions. Like it or not, if these had been allowed to dissolve (which is admittedly, very tempting) the bread lines would have made the ones in the 30's seem trivial. So, was the right amount thrown at the problem? Too much, too little? Anyone who claims to have the correct is answer is arrogant and foolish.
These tea bagger shenanigans are mostly republicans mad that there's not a republican in the white house. I would venture a guess that many don't even know why they are republicans. I'm sure many of the repressed have grievances that are decades old and just want to vent.
boomerang
Lifer
- Jun 19, 2000
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You know for a liberal, you're awfully intolerant.
lib·er·al (lbr-l, lbrl)
adj.
1.
a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
c. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
d. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
Modelworks
Lifer
- Feb 22, 2007
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The common idea seemed to be that the government is spending money on things the taxpayers do not want them to, and they do not like the idea of having to wait months and months to be able to let them know they are not happy.
Modelworks
Lifer
- Feb 22, 2007
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It is really sad how people are so hung up on parties that they can't discuss issues without it. What ever happened to holding the individual responsible for their actions ? I am so sick of people saying the democrats/republicans are behind/against something like it is some single minded institution bent on world domination. That is why people hung up on political parties hate independents so much, once they learn they are not part of any 'party' and instead vote and decide based on the issue at hand, not the party doing it, they lose all their ammunition at being able to attack the issue. We see it time and again, especially on this forum.
Chunkee
Lifer
- Jul 28, 2002
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This point is dead on. My wife's sister, DC constituent and long time Pentagon worker basically was holding a sign with her husband, Get rid of the incumbents.. or something of that nature. Their argument (protest) is that Bush, Obama, Regan, Clinton...are all the same. Power hungry corrupt politicians whose agendas benefit themselves and their friends.
Most of you party separatists should realize that it is really a non party issue, but more of a system issue. One that has gotten so out of hand because of us. We the people of this country have allowed our government to get so out of control, we have no idea where to begin. The corruption and waste as well as inefficiencies will continue to plummet this country. Blue or red, make no difference. Money is green, freedom is gold...make up your minds now people.
These "protests" are just the new Whitewater. I wouldn't say they are racially motivated, they are anti-Democrat motivated.
Which is fine with this Democrat. To the extent they are rational, deficits are too big, it's good, and to the extent they're irrational, government is evil, they hurt themselves.
Which is fine with this Democrat. To the extent they are rational, deficits are too big, it's good, and to the extent they're irrational, government is evil, they hurt themselves.
That's plain silly. If someone has never gotten a prediction right, were supposed to trust them this time?
By the same token, if you had no problems with what the last president did, or weren't motivated to say anything about it, its a bit late to be crying wolf.
BUt don't take it from me, take it from a fellow conservative:
Look: the only reason the deficit has tripled in eight months is the recession, which Obama inherited. And I know of no serious person who really believes the federal government should have sat back and let the US economy spiral into the abyss rather than try to stabilize it with a bank bailout and stimulus. To blame Obama for what amounts to inheriting an emergency bequeathed him by his predecessor is plain loopy. And to blame him for future deficits which were a function of all those who came before him, is equally misleading and disingenuous. Yes, blame him for deficit spending once the economy recovers. Yes, perpare a plan for real government downsizing when and if we emerge from the Bush fiscal wreckage. But give the president a fricking break.
The circumstances of this past year have been extraordinary. If the position of the right is going to be: no bailouts at all, no stimulus at all, and spending cuts now to balance the budget, then they should say so. Instead we get this adolescent hysteria, combined with no serious alternative set of proposals.
Really, my fellow small government independents: Grow up.
GuitarDaddy
Lifer
- Nov 9, 2004
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Yeah, those guys are super scary. Their voter turn out sets records. But by all means keep making fun of freedom fighters, it only makes them stronger.
Yes, I can't wait to see someone get up a full head of steam on a rascal to chuck a molotov cocktail at a police officer.
Doc Savage Fan
Lifer
- Nov 30, 2006
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QFT. Bigotry and intolerance runs deep with this one and with many so-called liberals. Human beings are incredibly complex and diverse in thousands of different ways...it's too bad we aren't all truly liberals in the nonpolitical meaning of the word. These days...it seems that political liberals (and political conservatives for that matter) are anything but liberal...it's not uncommon to see intolerance or actual hatred of others who are different in some way....be it ideas, economic class, skin color, age, political beliefs, religious beliefs, or position on certain issues. Is the word 'liberal' the new oxymoron?
JSt0rm
Lifer
- Sep 5, 2000
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whatever. These people are small minded tards. You guys are mad that we are intolerant of stupid? I'm intolerant of stupid in my personal life and professional life why would this be any different? These people made a choice to keep their minds in the dark and thats where they live.
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