Vista is just annoying and offers no benefits to me over XP. Oh, but it's sooooo "secure" that I'm still yet to have an infection on my XP machine. The only difference between XP & Vista is bigger icons and fancy graphical borders around the windows.
Add that onto the number of applications I must use for work that still are not Vista compatible. Yeah, there is still a market for XP.
Add that onto the number of applications I must use for work that still are not Vista compatible. Yeah, there is still a market for XP.
TehMac
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Windows 7 isn't even out yet. I'm hardly Microsoft's Cheerleader, but this sounds like a premature ejaculation of hate.
Originally posted by: tcsenter
So do I, that's why I used a credit card.
Its an 'investment' to protect against certain price increases or decreased availability of Windows XP, not a gamble on the effect Windows 7 will have on demand for Windows XP. All the copies I just purchased will be used/gone before Windows 7 goes RTM.
For one thing, Credit Cards are not money, they're debt. You're essentially buying debt which you pay off via the bank later.
As for Windows 7, well good luck, I hope you make profit.
It's better than their most recent. I thought the point was to improve your software, not go the other way.
ultimatebob
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XP was pretty secure out of the box once service pack 2 came out. SATA drivers are in the newer releases as well, and you always slipstream in other drivers if you want to.
That said, Vista doesn't suck nearly as much as it used to before Service Pack 1. I wouldn't mind using it as my primary OS now as long as I had a fast enough computer.
frostedflakes
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I never really understood the Vista hate.
I still use XP because I have some random software and peripherals that aren't Vista compatible, but that's not Microsoft's fault. I've used Vista some and it isn't bad. It's just *different* than XP, and I think that's what bugs people.
I still use XP because I have some random software and peripherals that aren't Vista compatible, but that's not Microsoft's fault. I've used Vista some and it isn't bad. It's just *different* than XP, and I think that's what bugs people.
I use Vista at home, but at the office, Vista's new SMB 2.0 protocol does not allow PC's to connect with a crucial shared drive on our Unix server. At least I can still install XP using the Vista Business downgrade rights.
No, we dislike it because it's bloated, invasive, difficult to get it to release full control to the user, lacked broad support from other software developers (due in part to Microsucks refusal to play nice with others), and was developed in partnership with draconian, abusive, and invasive bodies (RIAA, MPAA, USG) specifically to aid in their campaigns against the citizens of the United States.
Microsoft developed it that way for three reasons: profit, stupidity of average users, and political efficacy. While that's their right, it's our right to despise them for it, and choose to use a different product.
Everyone wants to hop on the fanboi wagon, go ahead, it's your right. If it's things you don't personally care about, that's fine too. But quit categorizing and simplifying valid complaints in order to make yourselves feel less sheep-like.
frostedflakes
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Bloated? Kind of like how XP was bloated back when it was released? Or maybe you confuse bloat with new features?
You see the same criticisms every time a new OS is released, so it's hard for me to take them very seriously. And sure, Vista has its flaws, but I don't think they warrant the amount of negative press that the OS has received.
I never understood the Vista hate. Its pretty fast and stable for me. Personally I find it much more responsive and easier to deal with than Windows XP.
If a new feature has higher system requirements in order to function, that's just evolution. If I can utilize the same feature on another OS with lower system requirements, it's bloat. There's nothing Vista can do that other OS's can't, with less hardware and better performance.
Vista is slower than Xp. As said above, I dont see any reason to use Vista, especially on my laptop. I use it on my desktop to play HL2 Fakefactory mod, but once I finally get through playing that I will gladly switch backt o Xp.
I also wish Logitech would fix their fucking drivers for 64 Ultimate. Fucking annoyances, along with crashes.
I also wish Logitech would fix their fucking drivers for 64 Ultimate. Fucking annoyances, along with crashes.
Yeah, I'm with those who don't understand the hate of Vista.... but whatever, people will think what they want.
frostedflakes
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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Except run DX10 games, play HDCP video, etc.
In the first place, nothing should be HDCP anyway. It's abusive to the consumer by violating fair use laws. Fortunately (and refuting your claim) HDCP strippers allow it to be played on any OS.
As for DX10 (which also should never have existed btw), very few games require it so far. Also, there are already ports done, or being done, for XP and Linux. So again, not an issue.
The things you listed are actually the EXACT REASONS that Vista is the 2nd worse OS in the history of computing. Those things have NOTHING to do with an OS and should NEVER have existed.
Eh, Vista is alright. I don't really care for any of special effects or looks (there's probably an option to make it look like XP, but I haven't had the chance to mess around with it). I just need an OS that works efficiently and quickly
Six of each Home and Professional.
After double-checking, its actually one day later than I stated (31st). And yes, its the real end-date for shipments of Windows XP to all channels. Only Royalty OEMs (direct Microsoft customers) will be able to ship Windows XP Home on netbooks and nettops (ULCPC program) until 2010. Royalty OEMs already have the software images and get their own installation discs pressed by authorized Microsoft replicators. The OEM System Builder versions that are currently available on the market will cease to ship on January 31, 2009, though it will take a little while for inventories to be depleted (and you can bet the price will increase).
You're confusing native support for SATA devices with the host controller interface (e.g. AHCI). The OS doesn't need to support SATA devices "natively" and it takes all but 30 seconds to integrate drivers for non-IDE host controller interface. As for security, while Vista may be more secure than XP, that is not the same thing as XP being "unsecured", dumbass.
I'm not sure why you are telling me this. I didn't buy these for you, but thanks for sharing.
No sh-t, Sherlock. I replied to tenshodo13 that I wished I had the disposable cash as well. Ergo: I didn't have the disposable cash, which is why I clearly stated paying by CREDIT CARD.
Why do you keep talking about Windows 7 and making a profit? The reasons I purchased Windows XP have absolutely nothing to do with A) Windows 7; B) Making a profit.
Red Squirrel
No Lifer
The issue with MS is they make their OS take up way too much resources by the standards of what's available at the release date.
XP was same issue. Too bloated, but now that dual core and quad core CPUs are mainstream, XP is ok.
In 5 years from now when we're running on 5Ghz machines and have no less then 32GB of ram and 16 cores, Vista will be very snappy as well, but then MS will come up with another OS that eats all those resources.
Remember how fast windows 3.1 loaded on a 486? We've come a long way as far as PC technology. Why does windows take LONGER to load?
XP was same issue. Too bloated, but now that dual core and quad core CPUs are mainstream, XP is ok.
In 5 years from now when we're running on 5Ghz machines and have no less then 32GB of ram and 16 cores, Vista will be very snappy as well, but then MS will come up with another OS that eats all those resources.
Remember how fast windows 3.1 loaded on a 486? We've come a long way as far as PC technology. Why does windows take LONGER to load?
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