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SagaLore

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Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: SagaLore
ndee: I have a 14.4k modem, is that enough?

bmacd: Well I was just going to use my macintosh...

Mucman: Can I have one of your servers? :D

ok seriously -

ndee: I'm not sure. Initially, a full T1 is pricey for me. So maybe a fractional T1? Or should I just rent space at a rack provider?

bmacd: If I really have to, I just linux, but I'm so much more familiar with Windows 2000.

Mucman: seriously, can I have one of your servers? :D

OK, seriously, don't start that company :)

Well... this really wouldn't be a company. My goal is to setup a webserver and get enough customers on it just to pay for itself. That way all of my website projects I want to do will cost no more than registering the domain name. :)
 

ndee

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: SagaLore
ndee: I have a 14.4k modem, is that enough?

bmacd: Well I was just going to use my macintosh...

Mucman: Can I have one of your servers? :D

ok seriously -

ndee: I'm not sure. Initially, a full T1 is pricey for me. So maybe a fractional T1? Or should I just rent space at a rack provider?

bmacd: If I really have to, I just linux, but I'm so much more familiar with Windows 2000.

Mucman: seriously, can I have one of your servers? :D

OK, seriously, don't start that company :)

Well... this really wouldn't be a company. My goal is to setup a webserver and get enough customers on it just to pay for itself. That way all of my website projects I want to do will cost no more than registering the domain name. :)

Are those "serious" customers or just the homepage of your grandma or grandpa?
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: SagaLore
ndee: I have a 14.4k modem, is that enough?

bmacd: Well I was just going to use my macintosh...

Mucman: Can I have one of your servers? :D

ok seriously -

ndee: I'm not sure. Initially, a full T1 is pricey for me. So maybe a fractional T1? Or should I just rent space at a rack provider?

bmacd: If I really have to, I just linux, but I'm so much more familiar with Windows 2000.

Mucman: seriously, can I have one of your servers? :D

OK, seriously, don't start that company :)

Well... this really wouldn't be a company. My goal is to setup a webserver and get enough customers on it just to pay for itself. That way all of my website projects I want to do will cost no more than registering the domain name. :)

Resell dixiesys. The problems that come with co-location or setting up your own center are much too complicated for this attitude. (not an insult in any way!)
 

Mucman

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Mucman
ok... I'll give you the 1U rackmount dual 1.13GHz 1G RAM + RAID 5 SCSI machine with dual gigE nics... NOT :p

Say that again... Slower... And softer....

Actually they are 2 of them.... mmm twins :p since you are getting too excited n0c, they are running win2k server (and one of them has Cold Fusion MX :()

 

tm37

Lifer
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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: RossMAN
First order of business, change your AT nickname to CEO SagaLore and always talk about yourself in the third person.

:D

AAAAIIIIEEEEEEEEENOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! LOL :Q

I could call my server SagaWings :D

and you can have a Hot Deals thread with over 1500 posts devoted solely to catching and nailing your ass (in a non-sexual manner, of course).

:D

WHat if you are interested in the sexual manner?:Q;)

 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Mucman
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Mucman
ok... I'll give you the 1U rackmount dual 1.13GHz 1G RAM + RAID 5 SCSI machine with dual gigE nics... NOT :p

Say that again... Slower... And softer....

Actually they are 2 of them.... mmm twins :p since you are getting too excited n0c, they are running win2k server (and one of them has Cold Fusion MX :()

Ever see the episode of Bevis and Butthead when they are at the gym and see a waifish figure with long hair in a leotard? :(
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: rahvin
Who let the monkey out of his cage?

Government contractors. Or animal rights activists, one of the two. Its tough to tell them apart. They both are ugly, smell bad, and its tough to tell the males from the females...
 

Mucman

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Mucman
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Mucman
ok... I'll give you the 1U rackmount dual 1.13GHz 1G RAM + RAID 5 SCSI machine with dual gigE nics... NOT :p

Say that again... Slower... And softer....

Actually they are 2 of them.... mmm twins :p since you are getting too excited n0c, they are running win2k server (and one of them has Cold Fusion MX :()

Ever see the episode of Bevis and Butthead when they are at the gym and see a waifish figure with long hair in a leotard? :(

ROFL sorry n0c... if it makes you feel better, we do colocation for a company who has a cubix box with 8 machines in it (all running FreeBSD :))

 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Mucman
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Mucman
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Mucman
ok... I'll give you the 1U rackmount dual 1.13GHz 1G RAM + RAID 5 SCSI machine with dual gigE nics... NOT :p

Say that again... Slower... And softer....

Actually they are 2 of them.... mmm twins :p since you are getting too excited n0c, they are running win2k server (and one of them has Cold Fusion MX :()

Ever see the episode of Bevis and Butthead when they are at the gym and see a waifish figure with long hair in a leotard? :(

ROFL sorry n0c... if it makes you feel better, we do colocation for a company who has a cubix box with 8 machines in it (all running FreeBSD :))

<mr burns> excellent </mr burns>
<dr evil pinky>
Whats the ips?
</dr evil pinky>
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Mucman
192.168.1.2-192.168.1.9 ;)

like I would tell you, you evil daemon :p

Ha! You just did uhhhh silly bag on head type guy...

/me goes off to warm up the nmap'n machine
 

Mucman

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Mucman
192.168.1.2-192.168.1.9 ;)

like I would tell you, you evil daemon :p

Ha! You just did uhhhh silly bag on head type guy...

/me goes off to warm up the nmap'n machine

haha... don't 1337 h4x0r them too bad :p

 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Mucman
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Mucman
192.168.1.2-192.168.1.9 ;)

like I would tell you, you evil daemon :p

Ha! You just did uhhhh silly bag on head type guy...

/me goes off to warm up the nmap'n machine

haha... don't 1337 h4x0r them too bad :p

I cant, my mom would be pissed!
 

SagaLore

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Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: SagaLore
ndee: I have a 14.4k modem, is that enough?

bmacd: Well I was just going to use my macintosh...

Mucman: Can I have one of your servers? :D

ok seriously -

ndee: I'm not sure. Initially, a full T1 is pricey for me. So maybe a fractional T1? Or should I just rent space at a rack provider?

bmacd: If I really have to, I just linux, but I'm so much more familiar with Windows 2000.

Mucman: seriously, can I have one of your servers? :D

OK, seriously, don't start that company :)

Well... this really wouldn't be a company. My goal is to setup a webserver and get enough customers on it just to pay for itself. That way all of my website projects I want to do will cost no more than registering the domain name. :)

Are those "serious" customers or just the homepage of your grandma or grandpa?

Serious customers. :)
 

ndee

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: SagaLore
ndee: I have a 14.4k modem, is that enough?

bmacd: Well I was just going to use my macintosh...

Mucman: Can I have one of your servers? :D

ok seriously -

ndee: I'm not sure. Initially, a full T1 is pricey for me. So maybe a fractional T1? Or should I just rent space at a rack provider?

bmacd: If I really have to, I just linux, but I'm so much more familiar with Windows 2000.

Mucman: seriously, can I have one of your servers? :D

OK, seriously, don't start that company :)

Well... this really wouldn't be a company. My goal is to setup a webserver and get enough customers on it just to pay for itself. That way all of my website projects I want to do will cost no more than registering the domain name. :)

Are those "serious" customers or just the homepage of your grandma or grandpa?

Serious customers. :)

OK, then don't do it :)
 

SagaLore

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Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: SagaLore
ndee: I have a 14.4k modem, is that enough?

bmacd: Well I was just going to use my macintosh...

Mucman: Can I have one of your servers? :D

ok seriously -

ndee: I'm not sure. Initially, a full T1 is pricey for me. So maybe a fractional T1? Or should I just rent space at a rack provider?

bmacd: If I really have to, I just linux, but I'm so much more familiar with Windows 2000.

Mucman: seriously, can I have one of your servers? :D

OK, seriously, don't start that company :)

Well... this really wouldn't be a company. My goal is to setup a webserver and get enough customers on it just to pay for itself. That way all of my website projects I want to do will cost no more than registering the domain name. :)

Are those "serious" customers or just the homepage of your grandma or grandpa?

Serious customers. :)

OK, then don't do it :)

:Q

:( I think I'll just see if our CEO will allow me to co-locate a server at my main office :D
 

Mucman

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how are you going to deal with the accounting of bandwidth? Are you just going to allow anyone to setup a site and give them unlimited bandwidth? Bandwidth costs money and I highly
doubt someone will co-locate it for free.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Mucman
how are you going to deal with the accounting of bandwidth? Are you just going to allow anyone to setup a site and give them unlimited bandwidth? Bandwidth costs money and I highly
doubt someone will co-locate it for free.

isn't there software that tracks that?
 

Mucman

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Yes but it's not always easy to setup... For where I work, our Cisco router keeps track of all the traffic... a Perl script on a machine imports the data every so often. A very large custom perl script analyzes these files and puts the final results in a database. Then out billing software has been configured to be able to check the traffic in the database and bill customers accordingly. This of course allows us to penny pinch every cent for bandwidth because it covers FTP access as well. This came in handy when someone decided to use their hosting as an FTP server (ftp on oc3 = yummy). After transferring 30GB over FTP they weren't very happy with their bill (their plan allowed 5gigs).

Web-hosting isn't so simple when you have to factor in all the accounting and administration... my hobby server is 100x easier to manage than my work ones...
 

SagaLore

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Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mucman
Yes but it's not always easy to setup... For where I work, our Cisco router keeps track of all the traffic... a Perl script on a machine imports the data every so often. A very large custom perl script analyzes these files and puts the final results in a database. Then out billing software has been configured to be able to check the traffic in the database and bill customers accordingly. This of course allows us to penny pinch every cent for bandwidth because it covers FTP access as well. This came in handy when someone decided to use their hosting as an FTP server (ftp on oc3 = yummy). After transferring 30GB over FTP they weren't very happy with their bill (their plan allowed 5gigs).

Web-hosting isn't so simple when you have to factor in all the accounting and administration... my hobby server is 100x easier to manage than my work ones...

okay well maybe I ought just setup a hobby server to start :eek:

I think what I'll do is propose a plan to upper management where I work to start an internal web server that we can offer to our clients for a decent fee, with permission for me to use the unused disk space and bandwidth for my personal sites... I doubt I'll get much more than a T1 though, unless there is a really good deal on T3's around here. ;)
 

Danman

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: bmacd
Originally posted by: SagaLore
ndee: I have a 14.4k modem, is that enough?

bmacd: Well I was just going to use my macintosh...

Mucman: Can I have one of your servers? :D

are you seriously planning to run a webserver from THIS computer using a 14.4kb modem? Surely you're joking b/c no idiot in their right mind would run a webserver from a Mac (at least you'd never get my business)

-=bmacd=-

I would in a heartbeat, but Im leet enough to do it.

BRUCE LEE WOULD BE FASTER. :D
 
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Here's the simple steps.

1. Get a business plan.
2. Figure out how you're really going to do this, instead of asking the ATOT community.
3. Come back in six months or so when you've got everything figured out.
4. Repost this.

From the sounds of your posts, it really doesn't look like you're ready for this. :p

- M4H