I think my mobo is bad...

[d3lt4]

I have a DFI lanparty UT NF4 -D
I was overclocking my ram and then set everything back to normal to OC my cpu
it says error loading operating system at the end of my bios load screen right before loading windows XP.
So I tried different ram, and different HD, both working, and same prob.
so I tried Linux live and it said something wrong with x serve or something like that.
Any suggestions? do you think my mobo, CPU, or graphics card is the bad one in the bunch?
sorry it's so long.

 

[waitman]

Did you try resetting the cmos?

 

[Googer]

This is why I do not overclock. Sometimes it is just cheaper to buy the faster CPU. Anyways, at what voltage level were you running the RAM at?

 

[d3lt4]

I reset the cmos. I had the ram at 3.2v. I know this is alot, but they are winbond chips. I'm thinking EBAY, here I come.

 

[vertigofm]

Originally posted by: Googer
This is why I do not overclock. Sometimes it is just cheaper to buy the faster CPU. Anyways, at what voltage level were you running the RAM at?

I highly doubt that his problems are related to Overclocking. As long as you monitor temperatures, have good cooling, a case with plenty of cooling. You are fine- if the system becomes unstable then reset the CMOS. The only realy physical damage you can do by OC is frying your components- and that is apparent from the get-go.

 

[atybimf]

Originally posted by: d3lt4
I reset the cmos. I had the ram at 3.2v. I know this is alot, but they are winbond chips. I'm thinking EBAY, here I come.

That's pretty low man.

 

[vertigofm]

Originally posted by: atybimf

Originally posted by: d3lt4
I reset the cmos. I had the ram at 3.2v. I know this is alot, but they are winbond chips. I'm thinking EBAY, here I come.

That's pretty low man.

Just return your mobo

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: vertigofm

Originally posted by: atybimf

Originally posted by: d3lt4
I reset the cmos. I had the ram at 3.2v. I know this is alot, but they are winbond chips. I'm thinking EBAY, here I come.

That's pretty low man.

Just return your mobo

No, that is fraud and pretty soon we will no longer have warrenties on computer products. Face it you broke it now fess up and pay for a new one your self. I am sure that you knew the risks and rules of overclocking before you did it: Rule #1 you can damage hardware by running it out of specification or overclocking.

 

[d3lt4]

well my mobo runs fine. It loads everything. The problem is I don't know what's wrong. If I had money I would just buy new parts, but I am in high school. In short I don't have money. If I had a second s939 cp I could test and find the problem, but I don't. The CPU runs as well. It is recognized, and everything. If something didn't work I wouldn't be able to do anything. DFI does support overclocking. In fact their boards main purpose is for overclockers and so they are made so that they can overclock without getting damaged. Does anyone have an idea what the exact problem could be?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: d3lt4
well my mobo runs fine. It loads everything. The problem is I don't know what's wrong. If I had money I would just buy new parts, but I am in high school. In short I don't have money. If I had a second s939 cp I could test and find the problem, but I don't. The CPU runs as well. It is recognized, and everything. If something didn't work I wouldn't be able to do anything. DFI does support overclocking. In fact their boards main purpose is for overclockers and so they are made so that they can overclock without getting damaged. Does anyone have an idea what the exact problem could be?

But the AMD does not support overclocking, by running it out of specification you damage other components in your system like the CPU, Video, RAM, and any thing pluged in to the PCI bus.

Oh and what kind of RAM do you have and did you adjust the voltage?

 

[robertk2012]

Originally posted by: d3lt4
I reset the cmos. I had the ram at 3.2v. I know this is alot, but they are winbond chips. I'm thinking EBAY, here I come.

Googer he answered that already.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: robertk2012

Originally posted by: d3lt4
I reset the cmos. I had the ram at 3.2v. I know this is alot, but they are winbond chips. I'm thinking EBAY, here I come.

Googer he answered that already.

DOH!


Well he probably did one of two things: Fried his RAM or Fried the Memory Controller attached to the CPU. Both are not smart things to do when you don't have money to replace them.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: d3lt4
well my mobo runs fine. It loads everything. The problem is I don't know what's wrong. If I had money I would just buy new parts, but I am in high school. In short I don't have money. If I had a second s939 cp I could test and find the problem, but I don't. The CPU runs as well. It is recognized, and everything. If something didn't work I wouldn't be able to do anything. DFI does support overclocking. In fact their boards main purpose is for overclockers and so they are made so that they can overclock without getting damaged. Does anyone have an idea what the exact problem could be?

But the AMD does not support overclocking, by running it out of specification you damage other components in your system like the CPU, Video, RAM, and any thing pluged in to the PCI bus.

Oh and what kind of RAM do you have and did you adjust the voltage?

Stop your bullshit already. It is almost impossible to damage anything through out-of-spec frequencies alone.

As for the PCI and PCI-E bus in NF4 boards, it it always running at the default clocks unless you purposely set them out-of-spec in the BIOS.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: d3lt4
well my mobo runs fine. It loads everything. The problem is I don't know what's wrong. If I had money I would just buy new parts, but I am in high school. In short I don't have money. If I had a second s939 cp I could test and find the problem, but I don't. The CPU runs as well. It is recognized, and everything. If something didn't work I wouldn't be able to do anything. DFI does support overclocking. In fact their boards main purpose is for overclockers and so they are made so that they can overclock without getting damaged. Does anyone have an idea what the exact problem could be?

But the AMD does not support overclocking, by running it out of specification you damage other components in your system like the CPU, Video, RAM, and any thing pluged in to the PCI bus.

Oh and what kind of RAM do you have and did you adjust the voltage?

Stop your bullshit already. It is almost impossible to damage anything through out-of-spec frequencies alone.

As for the PCI and PCI-E bus in NF4 boards, it it always running at the default clocks unless you purposely set them out-of-spec in the BIOS.

This knowledge that I am sharing with you is as old as the original IBM PC and it still holds true today.

 

[d3lt4]

If I fried something overclocking the mobo would pick it up. It checks the CPU, then ram, than gpu, and then it starts up. Would dust in the cpu do this to me?

 

[StrangerGuy]

Originally posted by: d3lt4
If I fried something overclocking the mobo would pick it up. It checks the CPU, then ram, than gpu, and then it starts up. Would dust in the cpu do this to me?

Dust won't affect anything unless there is a thick layer of it on the components or on the heatsinks that allow buildup of heat.

BTW did you set 3.2V for every single RAM you used on the board?

 

[d3lt4]

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy

Originally posted by: d3lt4
If I fried something overclocking the mobo would pick it up. It checks the CPU, then ram, than gpu, and then it starts up. Would dust in the cpu do this to me?

Dust won't affect anything unless there is a thick layer of it on the components or on the heatsinks that allow buildup of heat.

BTW did you set 3.2V for every single RAM you used on the board?

only the winbond chips if that's what ur asking. I had like a little piece of something stuck inbetween the pins. I cleaned it out, but I haven't put everything back together to check it out. do u think that's the prob?

 

[d3lt4]

Nope, that's not the problem. Hmm I wish I knew what was wrong so I could get it fixed.any ideas. Oh and vertigofm I wanted to return the mobo but I couldn't find out where to send it too. How do you RMA a board? to dfi?

 

[vertigofm]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: d3lt4
well my mobo runs fine. It loads everything. The problem is I don't know what's wrong. If I had money I would just buy new parts, but I am in high school. In short I don't have money. If I had a second s939 cp I could test and find the problem, but I don't. The CPU runs as well. It is recognized, and everything. If something didn't work I wouldn't be able to do anything. DFI does support overclocking. In fact their boards main purpose is for overclockers and so they are made so that they can overclock without getting damaged. Does anyone have an idea what the exact problem could be?

But the AMD does not support overclocking, by running it out of specification you damage other components in your system like the CPU, Video, RAM, and any thing pluged in to the PCI bus.

Oh and what kind of RAM do you have and did you adjust the voltage?

Stop your bullshit already. It is almost impossible to damage anything through out-of-spec frequencies alone.

As for the PCI and PCI-E bus in NF4 boards, it it always running at the default clocks unless you purposely set them out-of-spec in the BIOS.

This knowledge that I am sharing with you is as old as the original IBM PC and it still holds true today.

If you are a conservative Overclocker its almost impossible to fry your system- maybe if you just said "Eh I'll crank the volts up real high bc I know someone else that has them that high" thats dumb- but slowly increasing the FSB wont fry your components. You'll have system failures lonng before they fail!

 

[Googer]

q]Originally posted by: vertigofm

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: d3lt4
well my mobo runs fine. It loads everything. The problem is I don't know what's wrong. If I had money I would just buy new parts, but I am in high school. In short I don't have money. If I had a second s939 cp I could test and find the problem, but I don't. The CPU runs as well. It is recognized, and everything. If something didn't work I wouldn't be able to do anything. DFI does support overclocking. In fact their boards main purpose is for overclockers and so they are made so that they can overclock without getting damaged. Does anyone have an idea what the exact problem could be?

But the AMD does not support overclocking, by running it out of specification you damage other components in your system like the CPU, Video, RAM, and any thing pluged in to the PCI bus.

Oh and what kind of RAM do you have and did you adjust the voltage?

Stop your bullshit already. It is almost impossible to damage anything through out-of-spec frequencies alone.
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As for the PCI and PCI-E bus in NF4 boards, it it always running at the default clocks unless you purposely set them out-of-spec in the BIOS.

This knowledge that I am sharing with you is as old as the original IBM PC and it still holds true today.

If you are a conservative Overclocker its almost impossible to fry your system- maybe if you just said "Eh I'll crank the volts up real high bc I know someone else that has them that high" thats dumb- but slowly increasing the FSB wont fry your components. You'll have system failures lonng before they fail!

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i do not encourage or endorse overclocking but generaly if you stay at 5% or less overstock (voltage/speed), most PC's should not have much problem. 5% is the manufacturing tolerance. This is why OEM's Like falcon n-w, alienware, voodoo, etc will offer overclocking with a warrenty.

Personaly I would rather buy the faster part (cpu,video, ram, etc). The only exception here is the ATI x1900xtx, I would rather have the slower brother x1900xt running at stock speeds.

 

[d3lt4]

Hey since Googer, since you seem to be so moral what do you think of selling all my parts on EBAY, but with a waranty so if it doesn't work they can just send it back? oh yea I forgot to say I had a huge short circuit in the house and my CP was on. Ever since then things have been getting worse. Is that my fault or will a warranty take care of that?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: d3lt4
Hey since Googer, since you seem to be so moral what do you think of selling all my parts on EBAY, but with a waranty so if it doesn't work they can just send it back? oh yea I forgot to say I had a huge short circuit in the house and my CP was on. Ever since then things have been getting worse. Is that my fault or will a warranty take care of that?

Sell them on ebay, that is fine with me as long as you disclose that they are not in working conditon. The warrenty will not take care of damage caused by a short circuit in your house, but your homeowners insurance policy will cover the damage casued by it.

 

[d3lt4]

so I have to talk to my insurance company to give me money for new parts? I think next time I'm going to get a UPS.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: d3lt4
so I have to talk to my insurance company to give me money for new parts? I think next time I'm going to get a UPS.

Now that's a smart investment. Just make sure you buy a model that offers True Sinewave power. Sinewave models include APC's SMART UPS Line and all their Professoinal Grade UPS, cheap ones only work with sqaure wave power and some components cannot operate under those conditons. Some PSU's will go berzerk when if they do not have Sine Wave Power.

EDIT: your motherboard might be ok. But talking to the insurance company to fix something that you broke intentionaly might land you in jail for insurance fraud.

 

[Lasthitlarry]

Ok, let me get this straight:

Did you have a hard drive with windows on it, and then you upgraded to this new stuff?
Or did you put this all together, install windows, and then you say, "hey I wanna OC!"

If it's the first option(which I highly doubt), you need to reinstall windows since it is a new system configuration. Also, which I'm sure you know, you can't install windows on an overclocked pc, it is just not recommended even if it does work.

If it's the second option, you need to realize that OCing isn't hard, but you have to know what you are doing before attempting it.

You say you are in high school and can't afford new parts? That's a load of bs, I'll bet you paid around 1400 for that pc in the first place.

A rule I like to use at work is "google before asking questions"