I think im done with pc gaming

[amish]

i'm in the same spot. skt 754 A64 3200+, 1 gig of ram, 6600GT, X-fi card, and 80gig HD. i won't upgrade anytime soon i don't think because it is just a big rehash most of the time with more eye candy.

i just keep playing the same old games. speaking of which, can i have your old games?

 

[LanceM]

I think about it this way: I'll be able to find copies of Crysis, for example, several years after its release date, at a time when the required hardware will be dirt cheap.

If the game's only selling point are graphics, then it won't be worth it. If it does turn out to be fun, it'll still be there in a few years, and in the meantime I can have fun with my much cheaper consoles.

 

[IdaGno]

OP, Bill Gates has you/us right where he wants you/us & there's nothing you/we can do about it.

Your sentiment will only grow w/the passage of time.

 

[Ichigo]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: platinumike
I'd like to make this a long rant but im just gonna make it short and sweet.

If you are doing it for budget reasons, then there really isn't a discussion. You gotta do what you gotta do. But if you are doing this on some illusion that every game for PC will be on PS3 or Xbox 360, you are sorely mistaken. The PC market for 2007 is huge and with Microsoft vocally stating they want to grow "Games for Windows" things are only going to get bigger.

Consoles usually have a lot more games, and thus more AAA games than PC's every year.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Atheus
It's not really more expensive though is it. You're going to have a computer anyway, and the only difference between a gaming PC and non-gaming PC these days is the graphics card, which in itself is cheaper than a console.

Exactly. Plus I love my keybaord and mouse.

Oh, and modded games, and free multiplayer.

 

[IdaGno]

Further food for thought - from consoles to PC's to MAC hybrids & back to consoles.

Vista = a huge hunk o' change for well-over-the-horizon DX10 gaming. In the future, game development will be very much console-centric anyway. May as well get on the console-platform-of-your-choice bus & get off the perpetual-PC-upgrade bus, unless money is no object.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: IdaGno
Further food for thought - from consoles to PC's to MAC hybrids & back to consoles.

Vista = a huge hunk o' change for well-over-the-horizon DX10 gaming. In the future, game development will be very much console-centric anyway. May as well get on the console-platform-of-your-choice bus & get off the perpetual-PC-upgrade bus, unless money is no object.

PC gaming isn't as expensive as you make it out to be. My X850XT is still kickin on most games. I also tend to do very small, incremental upgrades as opposed to large ones. In moving from AGP/X800pro to PCI-E/X850XT I lost a total of $50 maybe? And every time you wait slightly longer, things get infinitely better (when I got the X850, it was worth ~$150. Now 7900GSes are seeing that price:Q)

 

[raz3000]

I also have a 6800GT AGP from 2004, and it will also likely be my last gaming PC. PC gaming has nosedived, and what remains does not require powerful hardware (referring to WoW, of course).

I agree with you that the PC ports are awful and buggy. It's simply not worth the hassle anymore.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Aside from the point that Mouse + Keyboard pwns any joystick that's ever existed and that most of us need a high powered PC for other things and making it a "gaming" rig costs a couple hundred dollars and that games like RPGs and RTSs will just never be reasonably playable on consoles because you need keyboard and mouse and even then you need to be close to the screen to read text unless you're playing a FF style RPG with big bubble text. Aside from all that, there's a cultural difference.

For me, the office makes such a nice enclave in which to game. You're there able to check email and browse sites between levels and you've got a nice chair and you're sitting only a few feet away from the monitor. Something about being older than 12 and sitting on a sofa playing games in the living room just feels culturally wrong for me. I'm not gaming to widdle away time like I did when I was a youngster, I'm looking for more of an experience since I have a job and house and family and other hobbies. If I'm picking up a game and putting other things aside to play it, then I want it to be compelling and I want to be able to enjoy it within a sanctum. The living room is where you spend time with guests and watch TV and read a book.

 

[Maximilian]

Me too. Games are too complex these days to just run and be fun. Always crashes, problems, somtimes outright broken games.

This "main gaming rig" is the last rig ill build for gaming in the forseeable future. If i do upgrade again, itll be a midrange upgrade, nothing high end. Im just gonna use this to play company of heros, starcraft, all the c&c games and half life 2 deathmatch. Its more than enough for those games.

Its an Xbox 360 for xmas gearsof war + racing game + dead or alive 4. Should be pretty sweet.

 

[Molondo]

Originally posted by: platinumike
I'd like to make this a long rant but im just gonna make it short and sweet. The last upgrade I did to my pc was a 6800gt back in 04. My comp is aged, but thats beyond the point. Its begining to become clear to me that almost all the relatively well selling pc games (excluding wow, wc3) will eventually be ported to the 360 or ps3. Not only that but its becoming a trend to actually produce games that were orginally started on the pc on a console, and give a crappy port over to the pc(ie: r6 vegas,graw). Games that I was planing on upgrading for: crysis, unreal 2k7, are or will eventually be brought to consoles. That coupled with an HDTV and the new resolutions consoles are capable of. Im sorry but a kb and mouse cant justify the thousands more it costs to game on a pc. That is all.

Im sorry, i have been hearing this same excuse since the nintendo days.

 

[gorcorps]

If all the new games require SM3.0 like Splinter Cell 4 and R6: vegas than I might have to jump on a console. And I have to agree on how much of a pain PC games have been lately with crashes/bugs etc. Oblivion still crashes on me. The saving grace is the patches, user mods, and free content that can be had later for these games.

And being mainly a FPS gamer, I can't deal with gamepads for lots of my gaming.

 

[Hadsus]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Atheus
It's not really more expensive though is it. You're going to have a computer anyway, and the only difference between a gaming PC and non-gaming PC these days is the graphics card, which in itself is cheaper than a console.

Exactly. Plus I love my keybaord and mouse.

Oh, and modded games, and free multiplayer.

Bottom line is that gamepads suck for FPSs.....which is why consoles will continue to suck for FPSs. And yes, I have GoW for the 360.

 

[natep]

I picked up a 360 and GoW just recently, and I'm starting to think the same way as the OP. I used to like PC gaming more because online play was there, but I'm having a blast on Live. I think the PC has a while to keep its lead on online play, but I think consoles are taking it over soon.

 

[40sTheme]

I can't play consoles because I hate most of the people who play consoles online because many of them are immature fools who ruin the gaming experience. Also, PC is generally less buggy than consoles, and I have to have my mods. Paying for ****** multiplayer is pointless. I guess that's mostly the reason I prefer PC.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Give me a console that can hook up to my Dell 2001FP via DVI (I will accept VGA), run games at 1600X1200, with a standard keyboard/mouse and I might switch.

 

[Aikouka]

PS3: Use an HDMI -> DVI cable or converter, it doesn't output in that exact resolution, but 1080p is "kinda close" and supposedly allows keyboard input. I don't know if keyboard input is allowed in games as I don't own a PS3.

XBOX 360: All it lacks is keyboard input in games, as it has a VGA adapter and is actually really good about monitor resolution support.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: 40sTheme
I can't play consoles because I hate most of the people who play consoles online because many of them are immature fools who ruin the gaming experience. Also, PC is generally less buggy than consoles, and I have to have my mods. Paying for ****** multiplayer is pointless. I guess that's mostly the reason I prefer PC.

You've gotta be nuts if you think that. It was a pain to get Oblivion and FEAR to run right and it still manages to crash every once in a while. Does the 360 do this? No

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: gorcorps
You've gotta be nuts if you think that. It was a pain to get Oblivion and FEAR to run right and it still manages to crash every once in a while. Does the 360 do this? No

But the PC users ended up with the best version of Oblivion once the user made content started rolling out.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Im sure it has been mentioned but you will be able to use a k/b and mouse on UT2k7 on PS3 too.

That said, I like the user made content you get playing PC games, but the problem for me is it is so much less hassle to just buy a console every few years instead of upgrading my PC every year or two. It's always a personal decision when it comes to this issue, and I can uderstand both sides, but i will be interested to see if the PC gamers migrate once the kb/mouse is instituted on the consoles.

 

[PingSpike]

PC Gaming is starting to get kind of lame. Don't get me wrong, its my platform of choice...but its been neglected to the point its a shadow of its former self. I've lost interest in the upgrade arms race when I realized that there just wasn't much coming out anymore that made it worth buying expensive video cards.

The late 90s and early 2000s saw the end of the golden era. There were tons of awesome quirky titles coming out and I couldn't keep up with them. It was hard to fit stuff into genres, and the communities were often pretty tightly knit.

The PCs main problem is that there aren't any actual PC games to play on it these days. There's just a bunch of half assed ports. Games that could be great (DeusEx 2) end up getting watered down to 'fit' into the console mold. Even Oblivion had an insultingly crap interface for the PC. Gigantic icons, clumsy keyboard support and sloppy limitations on hotkeys left the entire interface hobbled by constraints the PC didn't have. The OP is quite correct...WTF should he run on the PC treadmill just to play console games on his PC? If the developers won't even take the extra time to give a PC game a PC interface, then why should we bother?

And I hear people saying microsoft is coming to our rescue with "games for windows"! Oh boy, Microsoft is here to make your expensive PC even more like your cheaper console. Do you really think that seal of approval is going to make all the bugs go away? Do you really think old microsoft is gonna solve all those crashing problems that the PC has had since the dawn of time by porting old xbox live to the PC? All it will probably do is raise the burden of entry for PC games developers. Again...why should I even bother? You think Microsoft is going to start coming out with a PC exclusives that might hurt the sales of their precious console? The interesting thing about Microsoft and their console is that they're sort of eating their own. The console is pretty great. So great that tons of PC gamers, who were tied to windows, are dumping their PC gaming all together. And how many people stay with windows over linux for just the games?

For my part, I might get a Wii next year when some games come out that allow it to really stretch its legs...and I'll watch the mod scene for some interesting stuff. Bioshock looks pretty cool, but I'm not going to spend another $300 on a video card just to play one game that probably will end up treating my platform like its least favorite child.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: IdaGno
Further food for thought - from consoles to PC's to MAC hybrids & back to consoles.

Vista = a huge hunk o' change for well-over-the-horizon DX10 gaming. In the future, game development will be very much console-centric anyway. May as well get on the console-platform-of-your-choice bus & get off the perpetual-PC-upgrade bus, unless money is no object.

Can you explain?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: gorcorps
You've gotta be nuts if you think that. It was a pain to get Oblivion and FEAR to run right and it still manages to crash every once in a while. Does the 360 do this? No

But the PC users ended up with the best version of Oblivion once the user made content started rolling out.

no buts about it ... the ONE thing PC gaming has going for it are the mods and tweaks ...
you will NEVER make Oblivion look ANY better on your xbox360/big LCD TV ... BUT, you can make Oblivion absolutely 'stunning' with the texture packs as you improve your rig ... and get 'content' for free.
:thumbsup:

when do you think there will be mods for Xbox/PS?
:Q

[never]

 

[Frodolives]

I'm in a situation where my pc is still sufficient for nearly everything I want to do, but not so for recent games. Far Cry is about the peak of what it can run nicely, which isn't bad, but obviously there is still the occasional recent game I'd like to run but cannot.

I haven't got a lot of disposable income at all, so it's not a big deal, plus I live on a fairly remote mountain where the only possible broadband option currently would be mediocre sattelite service for $50 a month providing I get a minimum one year contract and buy $300+ of hardware up front. In other words, the incentive for playing newer online games just isn't there for me yet in terms of either isp or pc.

Even so I often find myself on the verge of upgrading. One upcoming title I'd want to play singleplayer is Alan Wake, and that demands dual core to say the least, not to mention Vista operating system. Every time I tally up the numbers is really just doesn't make sense for me yet.

I prefer pc gaming for many reasons, but can better afford a next-gen console if I must. The worst part for me is compromising on the controls

 

[skace]

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