I think im done with pc gaming

[platinumike]

I'd like to make this a long rant but im just gonna make it short and sweet. The last upgrade I did to my pc was a 6800gt back in 04. My comp is aged, but thats beyond the point. Its begining to become clear to me that almost all the relatively well selling pc games (excluding wow, wc3) will eventually be ported to the 360 or ps3. Not only that but its becoming a trend to actually produce games that were orginally started on the pc on a console, and give a crappy port over to the pc(ie: r6 vegas,graw). Games that I was planing on upgrading for: crysis, unreal 2k7, are or will eventually be brought to consoles. That coupled with an HDTV and the new resolutions consoles are capable of. Im sorry but a kb and mouse cant justify the thousands more it costs to game on a pc. That is all.

 

[Atheus]

It's not really more expensive though is it. You're going to have a computer anyway, and the only difference between a gaming PC and non-gaming PC these days is the graphics card, which in itself is cheaper than a console.

 

[Sniper82]

Originally posted by: Atheus
It's not really more expensive though is it. You're going to have a computer anyway, and the only difference between a gaming PC and non-gaming PC these days is the graphics card, which in itself is cheaper than a console.

In order to play the latest and greatest at max(or almost) settings you need to do almost a complete upgrade every couple years to achieve decent FPS. Depending on what video card you get you need to upgrade it at least once/twice a year or year and a half. If I didn't game on a PC I would save a bundle because I wouldn't upgrade but once every 3-4 years, instead of a video card about twice a year and a overhaul about once ever year and a half to 2 years. But consoles don't have CS:S and IMO any good FPS'ers. Thats what I play mostly and I want to play with KB/mouse.

Moving from PC to console only, isn't really a dumb idea because there are games released alot more often than PC, and consoles might see 3-6(each) A+ games a year where PC is lucky to see a couple. If you buy a 360 or whatever your good to go for 5+ years or whenever you want to go with the next best thing.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: platinumike
I'd like to make this a long rant but im just gonna make it short and sweet. The last upgrade I did to my pc was a 6800gt back in 04. My comp is aged, but thats beyond the point. Its begining to become clear to me that almost all the relatively well selling pc games (excluding wow, wc3) will eventually be ported to the 360 or ps3. Not only that but its becoming a trend to actually produce games that were orginally started on the pc on a console, and give a crappy port over to the pc(ie: r6 vegas,graw). Games that I was planing on upgrading for: crysis, unreal 2k7, are or will eventually be brought to consoles. That coupled with an HDTV and the new resolutions consoles are capable of. Im sorry but a kb and mouse cant justify the thousands more it costs to game on a pc. That is all.

looks like you are stuck with AGP

me too

however, i did upgrade my x850xt>x1950p for a couple of hundred dollars and now *every* modern PC game looks and plays well and probably will for probably another year.

i couldn't get 'much' gaming value and modern gfx for 200 dollars in a console as i could by simply upgrading my GPU. ....

plus i use my computer for a lot more than games.
:thumbsup:

next year, when PC HW gets more performance for dollar and PS3/xbox360 really compete, i'll reevaluate then.

 

[Bateluer]

Consoles and PCs always play leapfrog. PCs have already surpassed the X360/PS3s in processing power. Every console launch we go through this. Blah, Blah, Blah, PC games will always be superior to their console brethren.

 

[secretanchitman]

"congrats to nvidia for releasing the 8800GTX before the ps3 came out."

see, PCs will always overtake consoles, but yes, they get outdated quickly. thats just how technology is.

 

[STATICS]

Keep the PC and just dont upgrade it. Ive had my comp for 3 years and i still play the PC games decently. Playing at super max settings for all of the latest and greatest is just way too expensive.

 

[m21s]

Quiter

 

[GetMedieval]

The way to go is to forget consoles and just lower the in-game graphics settings. It doesnt really look that much worse on most games with medium settings.

 

[platinumike]

Originally posted by: GetMedieval
The way to go is to forget consoles and just lower the in-game graphics settings. It doesnt really look that much worse on most games with medium settings.

ya I would but when you see Fight night round 3 on an a hdtv, man that and look at all the crashes and problems one must undergo with pc games.

 

[Noema]

Keep in mind that this console generation just started. At this point, X-Box 360 and PS3 games look as good, if not better than PC games running on a high end rig. The best looking game at this moment arguably runs in a console right now (GoW).

However, this will change. This console generation will still be around in 3 years, and we won't see any new major home consoles in at least 4 years. But the hardware will stay the same.

In 3 years computer games will be so superior in looks to console games that it won't be funny. Compare current PC graphics to Gamecube or PS2 games. Heck, compare PC games released 2 years ago (Far Cry, Doom 3, Half Life 2) to the games released for consoles 2 years ago. That's how things will be in just some short years, until the next generation of consoles is released and the cycle begins again. Which means: PC games look vastly superior to their console counterparts for 4 out of 5 years of the console refresh cycle.

 

[VIAN]

Originally posted by: platinumike
I'd like to make this a long rant but im just gonna make it short and sweet. The last upgrade I did to my pc was a 6800gt back in 04. My comp is aged, but thats beyond the point. Its begining to become clear to me that almost all the relatively well selling pc games (excluding wow, wc3) will eventually be ported to the 360 or ps3. Not only that but its becoming a trend to actually produce games that were orginally started on the pc on a console, and give a crappy port over to the pc(ie: r6 vegas,graw). Games that I was planing on upgrading for: crysis, unreal 2k7, are or will eventually be brought to consoles. That coupled with an HDTV and the new resolutions consoles are capable of. Im sorry but a kb and mouse cant justify the thousands more it costs to game on a pc. That is all.

QFT

And it's not even about the graphics, it's about the more frequent release of games and wider genres available.

 

[Zap Brannigan]

Check out Dominions 3, great game, low system requirements.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: platinumike

Originally posted by: GetMedieval
The way to go is to forget consoles and just lower the in-game graphics settings. It doesnt really look that much worse on most games with medium settings.

ya I would but when you see Fight night round 3 on an a hdtv, man that and look at all the crashes and problems one must undergo with pc games.

there is a win-win situation IF you are patient enough to buy PC games ONLY after they are finally patched and bargain bin.

IGNORE the new releases except for the reviews and visit their forums to see IF the Devs are serious about finishing their games.

i got royally screwed on both NWN2 and Gothic 3. Paid full price for both and waited 6 weeks to be able to play NWN2 [it went on sale for $25 in the meantime] and then played the BETA gothic3 which is STILL buggy as HELL 2-1/2 months after release....

so it's a LESSON ... i can now save money and play only stable final release PC games


live ... and learn

send a 'message' to the Devs.
... and save big bucks.

 

[Aikouka]

Why not both?

I have a ~3.5k PC for playing games and an XBOX 360 with a 46" HDTV. I'm thinking about buying a PS3 if the eBay prices really do end up lower than retail (some are hovering around $400 with time left), because if good games come out, there's no way the PS3 will magically be cheaper then save for a free game being included or something like the 360 has now.

So yeah, in short... do both. You don't need to spend anything near what I do on machines (and I upgrade every year to 1.5 years!) to get decent quality. I used to play on cheap machines (partly why I spend so much now) and they still played the games nicely . Sometimes, I don't even like the fancy features in games that my cards let me use (like motion blur in racing games).

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
"congrats to nvidia for releasing the 8800GTX before the ps3 came out."

see, PCs will always overtake consoles, but yes, they get outdated quickly. thats just how technology is.

um you know that the 360 and PS3 only have the eqivelent of a 6800 gt class chip in them.. the same gen.. last years.. so the 7900 and the 7950 also kick the crap outa the consoles..

as well as whatever is the hot ATI chipset over the last year..
both trump them..

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

The dumbing down of games across all platforms is what has me losing interest. I don't think moving to a console is going to help in that regard. GoW, for example, while nice-looking, just isn't the type of game I'm interested in, nor racing, nor sports. Strategy and RPGs are pretty much all I care about, and things are looking poor in that department as well.

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
"congrats to nvidia for releasing the 8800GTX before the ps3 came out."

see, PCs will always overtake consoles, but yes, they get outdated quickly. thats just how technology is.

um you know that the 360 and PS3 only have the eqivelent of a 6800 gt class chip in them.. the same gen.. last years.. so the 7900 and the 7950 also kick the crap outa the consoles..

as well as whatever is the hot ATI chipset over the last year..
both trump them..

i thought the RSX was a modified 7 series card, while the xbox360 has a modified ati card. doesnt really matter, the point i was trying to make was that technology moves so fast, that even consoles got outdated before they were released (8800GTX came out before the ps3).

so what if you cant run pc games at their highest settings, just lower them down. gameplay > graphics imo.

 

[Kappo]

Xbox360+PS3+HDTV+laptop=goodness


There are more than enough titles for me to stay interested in console games, and when the games for the PS3 start supporting KB/M I really have no reason to have a gaming PC. I miss WoW and CS, but it is easier to maintain 1 home system (and a couple of servers) than to keep all my games patched and my OS up to date on separate computers.

I also like that everyone has the same playing field. The only real variable is internet connection. Console gaming can truly be about skill, whereas I know that if I didnt have the latest and greatest for my PC, I was at a disadvantage. Also, has anyone seen punkbuster for a console? No need!

I wanted mobility for my PC, my games dont need to come with me. Console gaming fits my needs perfect!

 

[gregor7777]

Originally posted by: GetMedieval
The way to go is to forget consoles and just lower the in-game graphics settings. It doesnt really look that much worse on most games with medium settings.

Not sure where you got this, but IMO games look like a$$ with the graphics scaled down. They cut features out alltogether instead of scaling them back and the result is garbage. IMO of course.

Picked up my first console since the SNES last week and it looks fantastic. (360 if you're wondering).

I realise though that near the end of it's life(2-3 years from now) that PC's will look far better. but not to me, because I wouldn't get to see the graphics. I would be gaming on hardware released 1.2-2 years before the game was released and thus have to tone down my settings. making the game look like a$$.

 

[Ricochet]

If I couldn't afford it I would conclude the same thing. But that only apply if you want to play the latest and greatest. There are plenty of computer games that run on older machines.

The new consoles are not that cheap: $400 to $600. When you buy all the accessories for it and games which are upward of $70 a piece, they all add up to an equivalent midrange computer. Keep in mind that computer games hit the bargain bin a lot faster than consoles.

The computer is primary for other purposes for me: web surfing, word processing, printing, movies, and etc. The fact that you can play games on it is a huge plus, of course. Besides, computer games trump when it comes to FPS, RTS, and online play.

My gripe about the PC gaming scene is the lack of diversity. Quirky titles no longer exist because developers got burned (financially) when they try something different. Innovation is pretty much shot. The same could be said about consoles but to a much lesser extent.

I'm lucky I'm in a situation where I could afford both computer and console gaming. Unlike some, though, I'm not an early adopter. I equate those to people who have money to burn. One should take the approach of waiting for the best bang for the buck. That's why I'm a huge fan of the Hot Deals and even the FS/FT forum here. There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying used either, because we know that there will always be some with buyers remorse. There's no hurry for me at all, because there are enough games now that can last multiple lifetimes. My biggest problem is having enough time to play all the games I own.

 

[Noema]

Originally posted by: VIAN

And it's not even about the graphics, it's about the more frequent release of games and wider genres available.

MMOs, Strategy, RTS, Flight Sims, those belong pretty much exclusively to the PC.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: Noema
Keep in mind that this console generation just started. At this point, X-Box 360 and PS3 games look as good, if not better than PC games running on a high end rig. The best looking game at this moment arguably runs in a console right now (GoW).

However, this will change. This console generation will still be around in 3 years, and we won't see any new major home consoles in at least 4 years. But the hardware will stay the same.

In 3 years computer games will be so superior in looks to console games that it won't be funny. Compare current PC graphics to Gamecube or PS2 games. Heck, compare PC games released 2 years ago (Far Cry, Doom 3, Half Life 2) to the games released for consoles 2 years ago. That's how things will be in just some short years, until the next generation of consoles is released and the cycle begins again. Which means: PC games look vastly superior to their console counterparts for 4 out of 5 years of the console refresh cycle.

Good point.

And you upgrade more on a PC just because the market is so active. Look at how many new processors and video cards and things came out versus how many new consoles come out in say five years. HUGE difference.

Besides, it's not necessary to upgrade everytime some new PC component comes out unless you're rich. I got my current 1.83GHz Athlon in summer 2003 and have only upgraded the video card to a 9800 Pro and the RAM from 512 MB to 1 GB, not too expensive for over three years. I still play current games on it (though it is showing it's age). If you can't play a game below 1600 x 1200 resolution with settings maxed IMO you care way more about graphics than actual fun-factor and gameplay.

 

[CKent]

I gave up console gaming a long time ago. I also don't purchase ported PC games that could have been awesome (GTA, FF12) if they weren't produced for decade-old hardware made by, of all scumbag companies out there, the supreme king of them - Sony. To each his own, I suppose. And if you have a gaystation, I hope you enjoy financially supporting writers of rootkit spyware.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: platinumike
I'd like to make this a long rant but im just gonna make it short and sweet.

If you are doing it for budget reasons, then there really isn't a discussion. You gotta do what you gotta do. But if you are doing this on some illusion that every game for PC will be on PS3 or Xbox 360, you are sorely mistaken. The PC market for 2007 is huge and with Microsoft vocally stating they want to grow "Games for Windows" things are only going to get bigger.