I think I should become a University Professor..

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: BoomerD
"Those that can, do, and those that can't, teach those that can"

I hate that saying. It simply isn't true.

QFT

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: BrianH1

Originally posted by: BoomerD
"Those that can, do, and those that can't, teach those that can"

This bullsh*t is one of the reasons our education system is falling behind. Everyone wants to complain about it, and call the teachers not worthy of doing anything but teaching, gripe a bit more, but then do absolutely NOTHING to help the problem.

Actually, the real reason comes from a tenure system that provides unlimited job security regardless of job performance.

And that system has been changed in a lot of academia. There's a process called "tenure review" that many use. Every 5 years or so, your tenure status gets reveiwed and (re)approved or not.

 

[MisterJackson]

and they get to sleep with the hot chicks who want an easy A

 

[skim milk]

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: fritolays
Someone I know...he just got a job at USC, he gets 200K/year

I should become a Professor... :frown:

What department did he become a professor in? Was this his first job? It seems unlikely they would start a brand new professor at 200K. At my school, salaries of all university employees, including professors, are public information. Looking over the payroll spreadsheet, I noticed very few professors making over 200K. Those that were, were like the dean or chair of something.

I guess one could argue that USC pays their professors that much more money, but if that was the case, I would think it would be hard for other good schools to attract good faculty if the salary differential was that high.

He has experience at other schools. His salary jumped from 70K to 200K (southeast public university to west coast private)

He teaches in the medical department (medical school)

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
"Those that can, do, and those that can't, teach those that can"

You are part of the problem with out education system.

 

[SampSon]

My gf's sister is about a year away from being a professor. She is already deep into research and TA and all that jazz that goes along with it.
Just like every other job, it's not all it's cracked up to be.

 

[fitzov]

It's great gig if you can get it, but there are alot of unemployed PhDs. When I was a grad student one of the things I noticed is more students come in every year than get jobs, and it's not that only the best and the brightest get the jobs either.

 

[herkulease]

do they require that you have teaching credentials to be a teach at university? I know high schools, junior high etc they require credentials.

 

[cHeeZeFacTory]

you make it sound like getting a phd is easy.

 

[gotsmack]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: BrianH1

Originally posted by: BoomerD
"Those that can, do, and those that can't, teach those that can"

This bullsh*t is one of the reasons our education system is falling behind. Everyone wants to complain about it, and call the teachers not worthy of doing anything but teaching, gripe a bit more, but then do absolutely NOTHING to help the problem.

I hear most of the complaining from teachers. My daughter-in-law being one of them. Why go to college to get a degree in teaching and then complain about the pay and working conditions and everything else about the job.

I guess it would only make sense to a teacher, because it makes no sense to me.

Teaching at university level is totally different from High school and grade school. Almost all high school and grade school teachers would not even get an interview from a research university. Mostly because to teach at university you need a PhD (in almost all cases), good recommendations from respected people in the field, and decent research publications.

 

[gotsmack]

Originally posted by: herkulease
do they require that you have teaching credentials to be a teach at university? I know high schools, junior high etc they require credentials.

yes, but lower ranked schools have lower requirements.

see my previous post for what is needed.

as an additional note, at a lot of schools you only need a Master's degree to become an adjunct instructor.

 

[OJ]

Originally posted by: herkulease
do they require that you have teaching credentials to be a teach at university? I know high schools, junior high etc they require credentials.

Most universities require a masters degree in the associated field to teach a subject, this requirement can be wavied with considerable private experence in the field.

I started teaching part time several years ago, you can rest assured it was not for the pay, although having children in the same college, the tutition credits do help.