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I think I should become a University Professor..

maybe after you get tenure you can work 10 hours a week. but the trip getting there is one hell of a ride. expect to be working 6 days a week and sleeping in the lab if you are in the sciences.
 
I speak to professors all the time at work. It just makes me realize how low the standards are at some universities. There have been better examples, but just the other day, one had no idea what the word 'truncate' meant. Oh, and she taught english... at least it was english as a second language... but still! This was at a community college, but we have gotten better ones from real universities. Sorry, no names 🙂.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
"Those that can, do, and those that can't, teach those that can"
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This bullsh*t is one of the reasons our education system is falling behind. Everyone wants to complain about it, and call the teachers not worthy of doing anything but teaching, gripe a bit more, but then do absolutely NOTHING to help the problem.
 
Originally posted by: BrianH1
Originally posted by: BoomerD
"Those that can, do, and those that can't, teach those that can"
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This bullsh*t is one of the reasons our education system is falling behind. Everyone wants to complain about it, and call the teachers not worthy of doing anything but teaching, gripe a bit more, but then do absolutely NOTHING to help the problem.
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I hear most of the complaining from teachers. My daughter-in-law being one of them. Why go to college to get a degree in teaching and then complain about the pay and working conditions and everything else about the job.

I guess it would only make sense to a teacher, because it makes no sense to me.
 
Originally posted by: fritolays
Someone I know...he just got a job at USC, he gets 200K/year

I should become a Professor... :frown:
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That's a great job -- except for the pressure of publishing and trying to get tenure.

But think about it. Every fall, a fresh new crop of hot young girls to oogle at. Long summer vacations. Not having to dress up for work. What a great life!
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
and he only works 10 hours a week
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You're an idiot. Most of the professors out there put in long hours planning lessons, drafting up lectures, grading papers, etc. Sure, there are some bad apples that don't do their job, but I love how everyone on Anandtech loves to criticize teachers.

Think about your "real world" working environment. How many of your co-workers are idiots? How many people in your company don't deserve their jobs? How many people don't give 110% every day?

I'll give you a hint... there are a lot of screwups in the "real world" and in the academic world. And those of you who think being a professor is such a cakewalk, just try finding a job. It's one of the most competitive fields in the country.
 
Originally posted by: BrianH1
Originally posted by: BoomerD
"Those that can, do, and those that can't, teach those that can"
Click to expand...

This bullsh*t is one of the reasons our education system is falling behind. Everyone wants to complain about it, and call the teachers not worthy of doing anything but teaching, gripe a bit more, but then do absolutely NOTHING to help the problem.
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Actually, the real reason comes from a tenure system that provides unlimited job security regardless of job performance.
 
Originally posted by: fritolays
Someone I know...he just got a job at USC, he gets 200K/year

I should become a Professor... :frown:
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What department did he become a professor in? Was this his first job? It seems unlikely they would start a brand new professor at 200K. At my school, salaries of all university employees, including professors, are public information. Looking over the payroll spreadsheet, I noticed very few professors making over 200K. Those that were, were like the dean or chair of something.

I guess one could argue that USC pays their professors that much more money, but if that was the case, I would think it would be hard for other good schools to attract good faculty if the salary differential was that high.
 
Wow, I've been an assistant professor for 2 years, and I'm making less than 65K. Of course, I'm in social sciences, not natural sciences...they get paid more, the stupid bastards.
 
My Ph.D. advisor works 60-80 hour a week all year long...he hardly ever takes vacation.

And he already has tenure...got it a long time ago.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
and he only works 10 hours a week
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It's hard for us to complain about the amount of work that our advisor asks for. Particularly because every weekend that I am in the office working I see him come in too. He always puts in just about as much time as the grad students, and this is coming from a guy that has tenure and chair.
 
Getting a job is great, but getting tenure is not as easy as it sounds.

I was talking to my professor the other day, and she told me that in order to get tenure you need to:
1) Have a significant amount of quality publications
2) Good teaching reviews
3) Good peer recommendation from top people within the field

If you don't get tenure at a college in between six to eight years, you'll ultimately get fired. When it happens, the chance of getting tenure is nil, because other colleges will see that you haven't gotten tenure at the original university.

--GiLtY
 
Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: BrianH1
Originally posted by: BoomerD
"Those that can, do, and those that can't, teach those that can"
Click to expand...

This bullsh*t is one of the reasons our education system is falling behind. Everyone wants to complain about it, and call the teachers not worthy of doing anything but teaching, gripe a bit more, but then do absolutely NOTHING to help the problem.
Click to expand...
I hear most of the complaining from teachers. My daughter-in-law being one of them. Why go to college to get a degree in teaching and then complain about the pay and working conditions and everything else about the job.

I guess it would only make sense to a teacher, because it makes no sense to me.
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I have no idea about your daughter in-law, but I know ALOT of teachers and the only thing they complain about is 1. Funding - which is a huge problem and very poor in my state 2. Parent expectations are too low 3. NCLB standards which IMO are just there to paint a bleak picture and get school vouchers passed. I NEVER hear them complain about the kids, or the daily workging of their job. And, I do believe they are under paid. But, way to be a judgemenatl a$$ - i am sure your daughter in-law loves you too.

 
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