I think he served his time......

[Daedalus685]

You're right it shouldn't be an option to kill them. It should be a requirement.
If someone murders a person, the murderer once found guilty or upon pleaing guilty should be taken out back and taken care of. We may not like the way China executes people for certain crimes, but damn it. They have the system down the right way. Conviction to execution and bill the family for the bullet. All within a week.
I hate hearing people say oh so and soo was a troubled teen but he's changed and should have a 2nd chance at life. F him/her. They didn't give their victim a 2nd chance.

lol, might have a touch fewer guilty pleas or do they maybe get the family out of having to pay for the bullet in that case....

Blood thirsty revenge is not exactly a flattering emotion..

 

[ichy]

Blood thirsty revenge is not exactly a flattering emotion..

There's a difference between revenge and retribution. Executing someone who committed first-degree murder is the latter.

 

[Daedalus685]

There's a difference between revenge and retribution. Executing someone who committed first-degree murder is the latter.

I'd consider them synonymous... but even avoiding the whole "don't become a murderer to punish a murderer" (after all we become kidnappers to punish our kidnappers) there are many legitimate reasons to not support (and to support) it and there is no reason for it to be so polarizing.

But this is very off topic... The thread is about some old man who was caught after skipping gout on parole. I think most of us can agree he should go back to jail..

 

[Thump553]

I don't feel sorry for him. He got 40 years of pretty good life out of it, even if he dies in prison, he's frikken 80 years old, what's he missing out on?

My father was still regularly skiing and piloting an airplane at his age.

And Moonie, you are right, the guy did forget he was on parole-he got caught when he applied for VA benefits under his real name. He apparently has some real mental problems with double personalities, etc.

It's pretty rare when such a vicious crimminal turns his life around like this guy did. I can understand the hard on crime mentality, but common sense has to come into play. It's stupid for the state to spend the money to lock him up at this stage-it costs roughly $100,000 per year to imprison someone. They must have money to burn in Montana

 

[ichy]

I'd consider them synonymous...

Retribution must be proportional to the wrong that was committed, and it must be directed at the person who committed that crime. There are no such limitations on revenge. Killing a man's family because he vandalized your car would be revenge, but it certainly wouldn't be retribution.

 

[Moonbeam]

I don't need to worry about condemnation or mercy because I haven't, oh I don't know, committed murder.

You have murdered your own soul, my dear.

 

[ichy]

You have murdered your own soul, my dear.

I'm an atheist, I don't believe in souls, and I do have one it's already screwed.

 

[werepossum]

Our country would be a better place if we dealt with murderers my way. This scumbag served a mere 15 years for what he did. He should have been executed.

This. I have no problem imprisoning a sick old man if that's when you catch a wanted parole-jumping murderer.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm an atheist, I don't believe in souls, and I do have one it's already screwed.

Rubbish, you have a soul, atheist or not, and you can't lose it. But you can hate the mercy that is natural for the soul and that is what you are doing. You are hard on others only because you are hare on yourself and you are hard on yourself because others who were hard on themselves taught you to be like them. Unlike them, I do not want you to suffer. Perhaps you are an atheist only because you do not like the idea that you have been forgiven and are reluctant to forgive yourself.

 

[Moonbeam]

This. I have no problem imprisoning a sick old man if that's when you catch a wanted parole-jumping murderer.

Why would you have a problem? You're emotionally dead.

 

[Kirby]

He shot a man 6 times in the back. He deserves to be executed, or at least live out the rest of his life with a bloody asshole.

 

[werepossum]

Why would you have a problem? You're emotionally dead.

Demonstrably not true; as I am happy that his wrinkly old ass is back in prison, by definition I am not emotionally dead.

You're not spiritual, Moonie, you're just high.

 

[CitizenKain]

I see my belief that anyone who thinks the death penalty is a good thing is a complete idiot.
Not a surprise seeing the kind of people who support this also support china, they'd fit right in.

 

[CitizenKain]

He deserves to be executed, or at least live out the rest of his life with a bloody asshole.

Really?

Location: Huntsville, AL

oh.

 

[Kirby]

I see my belief that anyone who thinks the death penalty is a good thing is a complete idiot.
Not a surprise seeing the kind of people who support this also support china, they'd fit right in.

You may believe that, but every time you post, you prove without a shadow of a doubt that you're an idiot.

 

[Freshgeardude]

I suppose that is why it isn't up to you...


This man broke a law by skipping parole, the fact that he is almost 80 doesn't absolve him from his responsibilities. Skipping parole effectively means he committed a new crime, one which he should face the consequences for.

you are a retard. the man was talking of his original crime, the murder.

 

[Freshgeardude]

I see my belief that anyone who thinks the death penalty is a good thing is a complete idiot.
Not a surprise seeing the kind of people who support this also support china, they'd fit right in.

i support the death penalty, but not china.

why should we the tax payers, pay to keep a man in a place to rot for the rest of his life?

wasnt it 700 a month it costed tax payers? if a man was 18 when he commited the crime and lived until 70, thats 52 years x 12 months x 700 a month = $436,800 on the tax payers.


We will save money and also can be used as a deterrent for others thinking to kill.

Besides, have you never heard of capital punishment for capital crime?



so tell me... why does the death penalty seem so bad?

 

[Moonbeam]

Demonstrably not true; as I am happy that his wrinkly old ass is back in prison, by definition I am not emotionally dead.

You're not spiritual, Moonie, you're just high.

Happy at the ill of others IS classic emotionally dead.

 

[MovingTarget]

If we had caught him sooner, then I could see the point of putting him back in prison. 40 years later? Not so much. It is a waste of resources by the state and it doesn't even serve an effective purpose to put him back behind bars anymore. Sure, what he did was heinous, but at this point that is between him and his maker.

 

[Tristicus]

He didn't do his time.

The end.

 

[Moonbeam]

Really?

Location: Huntsville, AL

oh.

Keep in mind that it may be the fear of the death penalty that keeps these psychos from going berserk and killing everybody around them. Your words may just scare the holy shit out of them.

 

[classy]

If we had caught him sooner, then I could see the point of putting him back in prison. 40 years later? Not so much. It is a waste of resources by the state and it doesn't even serve an effective purpose to put him back behind bars anymore. Sure, what he did was heinous, but at this point that is between him and his maker.

That's how I feel about it. They gave him parole so they must have thought as far as being locked up, he had done his time. Here is a person who went off and actually did all the things you would have hoped for. He turned his life around. Now if he had never been incarcerated then no matter his age, he should be locked up. But he did jail time and was given parole. Now here we are 40+ years later and they are going to lock him, at 79 years old? That just doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Jaskalas]

He shot a man 6 times in the back. He deserves to be executed, or at least live out the rest of his life with a bloody asshole.

A judge and jury found otherwise. He served his allotted time for murder.

We're talking about a parole jumper.

 

[werepossum]

Happy at the ill of others IS classic emotionally dead.

Happiness at the ill of others is not being emotionally dead if it is justice, else one would be required to oppose all punishment and incarceration to be emotionally alive. That would lead to ill coming to others as victims and their loved ones would see neither justice nor security and criminals would not be constrained from any actions they might wish to try. Thus everyone would automatically be emotionally dead either way, whether from being happy that criminals are locked up and punished, or from allowing those criminals to prey on others. Only by pretending that you are locking up and/or punishing criminals against your will could one even pretend to be emotionally alive. Of course, the insane and the drugged could be truly emotionally alive, since -

Wait, I think I see where you're going with this now . . .

Jaskalas, parole is part of one's sentence. Behave and you are allowed to serve less than the allotted time. Misbehave and you go back in to finish your sentence.

 

[Daedalus685]

you are a retard. the man was talking of his original crime, the murder.

Umm. ok captain jack ass...

I realize what he was talking about... This thread is about the fellow going back to jail which is well deserved... not that he should have been put to death in the 50s...