I think he served his time......

Jaskalas

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He served his time. Broke another law by skipping parole. The question then becomes, do you punish this man for that?
 
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waggy

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he may have served his time for the murder. but he was on porole hid.

why? i really have no idea. seems kinda silly to do that.
 

ichy

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There's a reason there's no statute of limitations for murder. Lock him up, if it were up to me he would've gotten the chair for his crime. No forgiveness and no second chances for murderers.
 

ichy

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He was originally sentenced to hang for the murder. If they'd carried out his death sentence as they should have this would all be a non-issue.
 

Daedalus685

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There's a reason there's no statute of limitations for murder. Lock him up, if it were up to me he would've gotten the chair for his crime. No forgiveness and no second chances for murderers.

I suppose that is why it isn't up to you...


This man broke a law by skipping parole, the fact that he is almost 80 doesn't absolve him from his responsibilities. Skipping parole effectively means he committed a new crime, one which he should face the consequences for.
 

Daedalus685

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Our country would be a better place if we dealt with murderers my way. This scumbag served a mere 15 years for what he did. He should have been executed.

What a depressing world you must live in. Sorry for that sir..

This is not a place I wish to discuss the death penalty though, as I agree that this man should be put in jail.
 

Red Dawn

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It would be cheaper just to let him go instead of having to deal with the medical costs of incarcerating him.
 

Daedalus685

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The families of murder victims probably find it depressing that a killer served only 15 years for his crime.

He is in jail again and will likely remain there until he dies...

What on earth does the death penalty have to do with someone who evades police custody, or even serves too little time? I imagine you would feel the same way if he served 30 years, so why even mention the time served? No, I absolutely do not think that a murderer should serve only 15 years.... but that does not mean teh only option is to kill them.
 
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ichy

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He is in jail again and will likely remain there until he dies...

What on earth does the death penalty have to do with someone who evades police custody, or even serves too little time? I imagine you would feel the same way if he served 30 years, so why even mention the time served?

Only because he was stupid enough to skip out on his parole.
 

umbrella39

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This man killed someone as a young man. He walked away after being paroled in the 60s. Now he is 79 years old and they put him back behind bars. I don't see the purpose of putting a 79 year old man back in prison for a crime he did his time on, but he just skipped out on parole.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/new...S.Wedding.Chapel.Fugitive/?cid=hero_mainlink2

Many WANT to be back behind bars due to being behind bars for the greater part of their life. They know no other life. The easiest, least violent way to get back in is to skip. Not saying this is the case with this man, just something that happens a lot.
 

Daedalus685

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Only because he was stupid enough to skip out on his parole.

/sigh.... never mind...


This person was a criminal, his parole was granted years before many of us were born.. It is a reason to hope our system is not as broken as it once was and be glad he was eventually caught (though it will do no real good now..)... but has nothing to do with the death penalty.
 

nonlnear

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It would be cheaper just to let him go instead of having to deal with the medical costs of incarcerating him.
Yes, but when you have DAs and Sheriffs elected to their offices there are political costs to consider as well. Occasionally it leads to strange calculations...

A pardon after a few months is probably the most sensible outcome to hope for. It would let the cock-stroking "hard on crime" (pun intended) folks have their moment while saving the state an unnecessary expense. Also, it would be a nice from a procedural point of view to end his time correctly and decisively for once.

After further reflection I can't help but wonder for the sake of context what the general state of the parole system was back then. Was it common for parolees to disappear, and was it common for skipped parolees to be recaptured? Granted it's not a point that carries legal weight, but then true justice is never about the legalities alone.
 

Moonbeam

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Maybe he was so old he didn't even remember he was on parole. Maybe he needed a nursing home and knew how to find one.
 

Moonbeam

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He is in jail again and will likely remain there until he dies...

What on earth does the death penalty have to do with someone who evades police custody, or even serves too little time? I imagine you would feel the same way if he served 30 years, so why even mention the time served? No, I absolutely do not think that a murderer should serve only 15 years.... but that does not mean teh only option is to kill them.

You know, I hope, that ppatin is to be pitied. As he judges others, so does he judge his own soul. There is no mercy for him. He is condemned by his own condemnation.
 

ichy

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You know, I hope, that ppatin is to be pitied. As he judges others, so does he judge his own soul. There is no mercy for him. He is condemned by his own condemnation.

I don't need to worry about condemnation or mercy because I haven't, oh I don't know, committed murder.
 

theeedude

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I don't feel sorry for him. He got 40 years of pretty good life out of it, even if he dies in prison, he's frikken 80 years old, what's he missing out on?
 

ichy

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How do you know the resources used to lock this man up won't cost someone else?

Maybe we should just release everyone who's serving a life sentence once they get old, that would save even more money, right?

If they'd carried out his original sentence of death by hanging none of this would be an issue and he would not be costing taxpayers a dime.
 
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He is in jail again and will likely remain there until he dies...

What on earth does the death penalty have to do with someone who evades police custody, or even serves too little time? I imagine you would feel the same way if he served 30 years, so why even mention the time served? No, I absolutely do not think that a murderer should serve only 15 years.... but that does not mean teh only option is to kill them.

You're right it shouldn't be an option to kill them. It should be a requirement.
If someone murders a person, the murderer once found guilty or upon pleaing guilty should be taken out back and taken care of. We may not like the way China executes people for certain crimes, but damn it. They have the system down the right way. Conviction to execution and bill the family for the bullet. All within a week.
I hate hearing people say oh so and soo was a troubled teen but he's changed and should have a 2nd chance at life. F him/her. They didn't give their victim a 2nd chance.