I think 120Hz has ruined me!

BrightCandle

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I used to have 60Hz 1920x1200 x3 surround. Today I have a Benq XL2411T and a Dell 2410 as a secondary monitor.

The last few days I have really started to notice that the secondary monitor is slow, really horribly slow. So I turned the Benq down to 60hz and it shows the exact same latency. Its horrible! It doesn't feel smooth at all.

I am not sure if there is a problem or my eyes have genuinely now adjusted but one monitor is clearly smoother movement than the other, and the motion blur is very noticeable on the IPS screen of the Dell. Its night and day. It wasn't in the beginning, in the beginning it felt super smooth in comparison to the 60hz, now the 60hz feels jerky and the 120Hz feels normal. Its even to the point where I have asked on the NVidia forums if there is a problem, because honestly it feels horrible.

But I can't go back to 60Hz now, I think I need another 120Hz monitor, that 60 is going to drive me nuts with its lag if I keep it.
 

Elfear

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I noticed a big difference in my TV going from 60hz to 120hz. They need more 120hz monitors pronto, especially in the 24"+ range. I've been wanting to trade out my 30" HP but there aren't many 120hz choices out there yet.

Do you feel switching to a 120hz monitor made gaming more immersive?
 

YBS1

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Yeah, same as with anything else on the "higher end". Mouse, monitor, SSD....For the most part people trying them may not notice that large a gap upon initial use, even going to SSD's for the first time I wasn't completely blown away. You take that equipment away from someone use to them though and they will throw a fit. My biggest crutch is mice, I've became almost completely intolerant of any mouse that I don't deem nearly "perfect".
 

YBS1

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Do you feel switching to a 120hz monitor made gaming more immersive?

You can't really go back. You will notice it the first time you use one and depending upon the type of game it may or may not be an eye popping difference, but you won't go back to 60Hz given enough time to acclimate to 120.
 

BrightCandle

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Do you feel switching to a 120hz monitor made gaming more immersive?

Its certainly more responsive. I feel the input is more attached to my movements in game than before and that improves my aim. The impressive reduction in motion blur also makes it much easier to see while moving around in games. The Dell 2410 has great blur characteristics compared to most monitors in its class, and it does well against many TN's and yet side by side these 2 monitors couldn't be more different in performance. The Dell feels slow, more colourful but blurry. The XL in comparison has artifacts, the colour quality is actually pretty poor but its so smooth and responsive comparatively.

I was expecting games to show a difference, I wasn't expecting Windows and mouse pointer movement to feel bad on 60Hz.
 

Nintendesert

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I noticed a big difference in my TV going from 60hz to 120hz. They need more 120hz monitors pronto, especially in the 24"+ range. I've been wanting to trade out my 30" HP but there aren't many 120hz choices out there yet.

Do you feel switching to a 120hz monitor made gaming more immersive?




120hz monitors have made my desktop more immersive! Even just using Windows and going through folder directories is a night and day difference.
 

ShadowOfMyself

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Yeah 120hz is pretty drastic... I ended up picking a 60hz because of IPS, but if I could have both I would definitely shell out the money, since 60hz is pretty horrible
 

Borealis7

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i got a 120hz at home, and 60hz at work. i come home and move the mouse around to get used to it all over again every day :D
 

Ampersand38

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I bought an XL2420T on sale and had buyer's remorse the whole trip home, was ready to return it, and then I moved the mouse cursor an saw how smooth it was. It's like a drug.
 

PrincessFrosty

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I'm the same.

I went from a Dell 30" 2560x1600 IPS @ 60hz, to a BenQ 1920x1080 TN @ 120hz.

While the colour reproduction is worse, and the viewing angles are terrible, the smoothness of 120Hz and the faster response time are wonderful. It's fairly normal with these things to not actually fully appreciate the benefit of new technology until you've used it for a while and then have to go back to working without it...

You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone!
 

Tweak155

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I thought about going 120hz. I threw back on my 1920x1080 panel to see if I would mind the resolution change (I use an IPS 2560x1440) and I immediately noticed the color difference. That factor alone caused me to not consider it further. Good thing I haven't seen a 120hz monitor.
 

imaheadcase

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I got rid of my 120Hz, did not notice a change myself at all in games. I just could not get over the weak colors. Games was night and day difference with how they looked on TN vs IPS.

Depends on the person, i would never recommend one myself.
 

p_monks33

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I run three 120hz monitors. I want to go back to one 30" 2560x1600 , but playing at 60hz sucks to me as well. I can't deal with the laggy motion anymore. I did the same thing , turn down my monitors to 60hz, it felt like I was playing at 20fps.
 

blackened23

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I appreciate 120hz but I really cannot stand the fact that they're currently limited to 1080p. 1080p really does look god awful on a 27" panel, the pixellation is very noticeable - on top of this, it is obviously a TN panel with all of the caveats involved with TN. If 120hz IPS panels at 2560x1600 were in production I would certainly bite, but the negatives outweigh the positives for me right now. I love higher resolution :(

I also use dual monitors most of the time, and using more than 1 TN panel is horrible. Absolutely horrible. There is no way to position a TN panel to where the bad viewing angles aren't extremely noticeable in a dual-triple monitor setup. So 2560 resolution IPS panels it is for me.
 
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Remobz

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I got rid of my 120Hz, did not notice a change myself at all in games. I just could not get over the weak colors. Games was night and day difference with how they looked on TN vs IPS.

Depends on the person, i would never recommend one myself.

I hate weak colors and would never pick a TN panel over IPS. Games do not rule my world no matter how smooth the mouse is.
 

blackened23

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I run three 120hz monitors. I want to go back to one 30" 2560x1600 , but playing at 60hz sucks to me as well. I can't deal with the laggy motion anymore. I did the same thing , turn down my monitors to 60hz, it felt like I was playing at 20fps.

Do you run them in portrait? I've viewed a triple 120hz landscape surround setup and it was hilariously bad. The poor viewing angles of the secondary and tertiary screens were very apparent. I can't see any way of making it usable other than doing surround in 3x portrait mode with slim bezel monitors. 120hz is just ruined by TN in every way imaginable.
 

Fallengod

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It kind of depends on what youre doing. Id never run with anything below 120hz. If you do any type of gaming at all, 120hz is what you want. I hardly even game anymore but I still love the 120hz smoothness.

I could careless how accurate and pretty colors and plants look.... They are accurate enough to not care. Theres no reason to go back to 60hz.
 

Subyman

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I tried a 120hz panel, but went back to an IPS. The colors and gamma shift way overshadowed the smoothness. Once we get some good 120hz IPS/PLS options then I'll be back on board. I liked the effect, but losing fidelity was not worth it.
 

thelastjuju

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I think something else could be wrong. Are you using Vysnc with Tripple Buffering when running 60hz? Maybe try manually capping games to 60fps if you can.

It only takes me like 15 seconds for my eyes to adjust from 120hz to 60hz.. it shouldn't have been a big enough change to where you can't tolerate going back down to 60.
 

Annisman*

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This is why I'm upset there are no monitors with resolutions > 1080 @ 120hz, because now I am stuck on 120hz (144 actually now) but I want to increase my res.

Catleap is the only way to go and the oc models are hard to find.
 

colonelciller

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sounds like the thing to do is avoid the 120hz addiction until the side effects of low resolution, poor color reproduction and bad viewing angle are "purged from the drug" ;)
 

sm625

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I've become the same way with SVP. I have episodes of tv shows that are just shoddy 100MB downloads and they look so much better with SVP than DVD quality video without SVP. And this is only 60Hz. I'd like to try 120Hz...
 

Mark Rejhon

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Today I have a Benq XL2411T and a Dell 2410 as a secondary monitor.
Have you enabled LightBoost in 2D yet for even less motion blur?
EDIT, nevermind, you already posted:

BrightCandle said:
Ever since I heard about this [LightBoost] tweak I have been intrigued to try the last batch of 120hz monitors. So I finally pulled the trigger today on a Benq 2411. I am going to be ditching the surround completely and drop down to 2 monitors from my current 3, I'll just keep the Dell 2410 for work and the Benq will become the gaming monitor. Smooth motion and input latency is something I didn't appreciate 3 years ago but now I perceive the impact more strongly and I am doing what I can to remove it.
So you are, indeed, already spoiled by LightBoost!
 
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