I take back every bad thing I've ever said...

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Right off the bat, Azureus is hitting speeds of 75kbp/s, which is well above the 15kbp/s I was getting with uTorrent + WINE. It's undoubtedly a misconfiguration on my part that cause uTorrent to run such slow downloads, but Azureus is fast from the start.

Whoa.
 

flexy

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tried bitcomet ? Are you behind a NAT/firewall ? Utorrent doesnt do nat-traversal...and only bitocomet, azureus (in parts), bitlord and bitspirit do.

I'd say you might get even better speeds with bitcomet if NAT firewall is your problem.
 
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It might be. I'm not sure. I don't use a software firewall, only the one on my router. I know nothing of Routers and avoid them at all costs. I'll give Bitcomet a try!
 

OCedHrt

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Not quite sure what you mean by nat-traversal, but utorrent supports upnp just like bitcomet does. Except, utorrent follows the specs and bitcomet doesn't.
 

Trevelyan

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Is Azureus still written in Java? Because that's what killed it for me.... slow as molasses.
 
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Azureus has always been Teh Uber Massive Pwn for me. Only ever chewed up 50MB of RAM - and I was running a dozen torrents, all active. I think that was my hard drive fragmenting suddenly. :D

- M4H
 

flexy

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Originally posted by: OCedHrt
Not quite sure what you mean by nat-traversal, but utorrent supports upnp just like bitcomet does. Except, utorrent follows the specs and bitcomet doesn't.


well..this basically only applies to you if you're behind your ISP's router where you dont have any control....as compared to with your *own* router you can ljust let the BT client manage the port forwarding (for better speeds) via UPnP automatically...or do it manually. (www.portforward.com)


Usually, all newer clients give you some kind of warning when you have problems with a firewall.....eg. utorrent would show you a symbol with an exclamation mark or something and az would also complain.


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What is Firewall and NAT Traversal in BitComet? (new)
In the world of old bittorrent clients, non-firewalled clients and clients on publicly routable IP addresses are able to help NAT?ed nodes to communicate while downloading the same files. BitComet did a even better job for users behind NAT, it enables users behind differect NAT connected to each other via UDP. That means the download rate may boost up because it can now connect to more peers than before. Without any cofiguration, BitComet will auto dectect your internet connection ( to find out if you are behind the NAT or haven't any successful port-mapping ) and did all those automatically. But you may also enable or disable this feature in the Options - Advanced dialog.
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Otherwise - i also LOVE utorrent but then i cant really say anything bad about bitcomet either...i just wish utorrent had that above feature...and usually BC is known for gettting the best speeds and has most options for users behind firewalls etc.

AZ i never could get used to...dont know....speeds also never impressed me.
 

kamper

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Originally posted by: flexy
Originally posted by: OCedHrt
Not quite sure what you mean by nat-traversal, but utorrent supports upnp just like bitcomet does. Except, utorrent follows the specs and bitcomet doesn't.
well..this basically only applies to you if you're behind your ISP's router where you dont have any control....as compared to with your *own* router you can ljust let the BT client manage the port forwarding (for better speeds) via UPnP automatically...or do it manually. (www.portforward.com)
Somebody hold me. Are you people saying that you actually let applications on your machines open ports on your router automatically? What a fvcking stupid idea. :confused:
 

TheRyuu

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Originally posted by: kamper
Originally posted by: flexy
Originally posted by: OCedHrt
Not quite sure what you mean by nat-traversal, but utorrent supports upnp just like bitcomet does. Except, utorrent follows the specs and bitcomet doesn't.
well..this basically only applies to you if you're behind your ISP's router where you dont have any control....as compared to with your *own* router you can ljust let the BT client manage the port forwarding (for better speeds) via UPnP automatically...or do it manually. (www.portforward.com)
Somebody hold me. Are you people saying that you actually let applications on your machines open ports on your router automatically? What a fvcking stupid idea. :confused:

Yea, whats so hard about just forwarding ONE (count ONE) port for uTorrent????

Oh yea, to stay a bit OT here. I've used both and have both. I normally use uTorrent because it's so small. Maby I should try Azureus again.
 

duragezic

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I'm so lost when it comes to forwarding that port for uTorrent. I load up portforward.com in like 10 browser tabs so I can take in everything I need to forward that port. Man what a useful site... I could've never figured it out myself.
 

flexy

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Originally posted by: duragezic
I'm so lost when it comes to forwarding that port for uTorrent. I load up portforward.com in like 10 browser tabs so I can take in everything I need to forward that port. Man what a useful site... I could've never figured it out myself.

its really simple. For BT i usually use port 50000. Go to your router config screen with a browser (usually http://192.168.1.1 or something)...go to the appropriate section....possible named port forwarding/re-directing...and open a TCP (and/or UDP port) eg. 50000 and make sure it forwards to your computers IP.

Assuming, and wise...if you have a router that your PC(s) hanging on the router have a static IP which doesnt change all the time...so if you have more comps hanging on YOUR network...you can open multiple port for each computer and then.....eg. assign 50000 to one computer...and 50001 to the other one....so both comps could run bittorrent and the incoming connections would always go to the right computer. etc..etc.. :)



 

duragezic

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I think your sarcasm detector is broken. :D


Just poking fun at the people who have such a hard time with it. I mean there's whole websites dedicated to doing it?! Considering in the router config it's usually named 'Port Forwarding' or the like, and the blanks you need to fill in are self-explanatory. Not a whole lot of room for error.
 

KoolDrew

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Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Is Azureus still written in Java? Because that's what killed it for me.... slow as molasses.

Yes, it is and that is what ruined it for me also.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: flexy
Originally posted by: duragezic
I'm so lost when it comes to forwarding that port for uTorrent. I load up portforward.com in like 10 browser tabs so I can take in everything I need to forward that port. Man what a useful site... I could've never figured it out myself.

its really simple. For BT i usually use port 50000. Go to your router config screen with a browser (usually http://192.168.1.1 or something)...go to the appropriate section....possible named port forwarding/re-directing...and open a TCP (and/or UDP port) eg. 50000 and make sure it forwards to your computers IP.

Assuming, and wise...if you have a router that your PC(s) hanging on the router have a static IP which doesnt change all the time...so if you have more comps hanging on YOUR network...you can open multiple port for each computer and then.....eg. assign 50000 to one computer...and 50001 to the other one....so both comps could run bittorrent and the incoming connections would always go to the right computer. etc..etc.. :)

no matter what i do, it always says the port is blocked. thats with kerio firewall and my router. it seems to work ok with just going through the modem and not the router so i guess its the router causing the problem but whatever i do, opening ports and such, it never works.
 

CKent

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Originally posted by: flexy
tried bitcomet ? Are you behind a NAT/firewall ? Utorrent doesnt do nat-traversal...and only bitocomet, azureus (in parts), bitlord and bitspirit do.

I'd say you might get even better speeds with bitcomet if NAT firewall is your problem.

Isn't bitlord spyware?

Anyway, I'm fairly sure that most problems people have with Azureus aren't problems with Azureus at all. They're user error; namely, people using it with long-outdated JRE versions report problems and blame the client. PICNIC ftl :(
 

Trevelyan

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Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Is Azureus still written in Java? Because that's what killed it for me.... slow as molasses.

Yes, it is and that is what ruined it for me also.

Ok then... Bitcomet is still the current king in my mind. Fast program, fast downloads, all the options I need.
 

Noema

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uTorrent always maxes out my connection with decent torrents, so *shrug*
 

duragezic

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: flexy
Originally posted by: duragezic
I'm so lost when it comes to forwarding that port for uTorrent. I load up portforward.com in like 10 browser tabs so I can take in everything I need to forward that port. Man what a useful site... I could've never figured it out myself.

its really simple. For BT i usually use port 50000. Go to your router config screen with a browser (usually http://192.168.1.1 or something)...go to the appropriate section....possible named port forwarding/re-directing...and open a TCP (and/or UDP port) eg. 50000 and make sure it forwards to your computers IP.

Assuming, and wise...if you have a router that your PC(s) hanging on the router have a static IP which doesnt change all the time...so if you have more comps hanging on YOUR network...you can open multiple port for each computer and then.....eg. assign 50000 to one computer...and 50001 to the other one....so both comps could run bittorrent and the incoming connections would always go to the right computer. etc..etc.. :)

no matter what i do, it always says the port is blocked. thats with kerio firewall and my router. it seems to work ok with just going through the modem and not the router so i guess its the router causing the problem but whatever i do, opening ports and such, it never works.
Did you set your computer to a static IP? Update the router firmware (or even a previous version, for example the newest firmware for my POS router sucks, but the default isn't too good, so I found one in between that is so-so)? Try with uPnP on, or turn it off and use manual forwarding?
 

0roo0roo

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works well for me. not the fastest cpuwise sure, but it has all the features i want
 

Ika

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Originally posted by: duragezic
I think your sarcasm detector is broken. :D


Just poking fun at the people who have such a hard time with it. I mean there's whole websites dedicated to doing it?! Considering in the router config it's usually named 'Port Forwarding' or the like, and the blanks you need to fill in are self-explanatory. Not a whole lot of room for error.

It isn't always fool-proof. I have a really messed up connection, which is partly due to me not knowing anything about networks and how all the components work. I went through the entire procedure several times (and not my first time through) with uTorrent, and it still said that I couldn't receive incoming connections. I get pissed off, turn it off, leave for about a week, come back, and everything works like magic. :confused:
 

TheRyuu

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Ya know what.

I too take back everything bad I said about Azureus. Downloading at 150kB/s right now. And I am really :D (happy)

uTorrent never seem'ed to get above 75.