I resigned from my job today

[L1FE]

Originally posted by: Kyteland

Originally posted by: DrPizza
I didn't realize that pto had to be paid if someone resigned from their job, "by law". Any links?? I've seen several cases where it's paid at 50% or other rates at the conclusions of someone's employment. And, I've seen cases where it isn't paid at all. i.e. employee with 2 weeks of vacation who leaves 6 months into the year with both weeks on the books doesn't receive anything.

They are required by law to pay it out, at least in Illinois. Vacation time is a benefit earned for the hours you spend working, the same as your salary. Not paying it is the same as not giving you your last paycheck. Almost all companies allow you to use all the time for the year even if you haven't earned it yet.

For example, I get 17 days of vacation at work. (136 hour per year) I earn 5.23 hours per pay period (2 weeks) throughout the year. Come January 1st I've techically earned 0 hours for the year, but my entire bank of 136 hours is availible to use "on credit" because it is assumed I'll work the rest of the year. If I use the entire thing up front and then quit, the difference is deducted from my last paycheck because I had't earned it yet. Similarly if I have a positive balance when I quit they have to pay it out to me.

On a similar note, I know plenty of people who give their "2 weeks" with their vacation time tacked on the end so they can finish transitioning off the project and then have a month off of paid vacation before they start working at their new job.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Playmaker
You went about it the right way. You have no obligation whatsoever to your employer under an employment-at-will contract, but it's courteous to give the 2 (or 4) week notice.

If you were on vacation I see nothing wrong with calling it in. No manager can afford to be petty enough to attempt vindication based on you not resigning in person. That's ridiculous. Anyone suggesting that is basing it on isolated, anecdotal incidents or watches too many movies.

Interesting.

Originally posted by: JEDI
thats disrespectful for resigning over the phone especially since your boss gave you the raise and vacation you wanted.

but i agree about not saying you're unhappy. saying that wanted a more challenge is great. that way you're telling him you want more w/o telling him you're unhappy.

congrats on the new job!

Yes I mentioned it before I wanted to do more db/ cs/ sql stuff before the performance review. My increased salary was negociated before the performance review and I stated again I wanted more challenging work.

I agree it was disrespect of me to not speak to him in person but it just panned out that way. I didn't want to wait 2 weeks to tell him in person as I had the other offer given to me whilst on holiday.

Koing

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Kyteland

Originally posted by: Citrix
I dunno if you handled it well. i think you should have told him during your review that you werent happy.

I agree.

It sounded to me like you liked the job and the people. If you weren't happy with the pay, you definitely should have brought it up. Demanding a raise straight up probably isn't the best way to do it, but if you don't make it known that you are unhappy they will never do anything about it. Sure, they might fire you for bringing it up, but so what? You were planning to leave anyway, right?

You made it sound like you were a valuable employee and that your supervisor thought this as well. If that's really the case then they will more than likely work with you to get you the raise you want. Just keep in mind that you will also need to work with them. Two way street and all.

In your review:
Supervisor: "You did a great job, Koing. I've given you an excellent review overall."
You: "Yay me!"
Sup: "Because you did such a great job, you'll be getting a 5% salary increase next year. Go you! You beat inflation. You now make $X a year."
You: "I believe I'm under compensated, even at $X a year. I believe I've done a lot of good work for the company, as reflected by my performance review. In addition I've done tasks A, B and C which have done really well for the company. Is there any possibility adjusting my compensation to be more in line with my work?"
Sup: "Your're right. You're definitely a guy we want to work with. You now make $Y per year.
You: "I'm sorry, but that wasn't what I had in mind."
Sup: "Honestly Koing, we can't justify paying you more than $Y for what you do."
You: "It would take $Z for me to be happy. Perhaps we could sit down and work out a set of goals for me to achieve in order to get $Z?"
Sup: "Certainly. You're weak in the area of D. You also have projects E and F coming up. If you can do those things we can justify giving you $Z."
You: "Yay!"

Both you and the company have a pretty good idea of what you're worth, although your ideas of what that is may very well be different. The first step is to get them to offer you what they think you're worth. If that's still not up to what you think you're worth you need to tell then what you want and ask what needs to change to get to that. You have to say "I'm worth $Z. What do I have to do to prove it to you?"

They are a business and are out to turn a profit. They will never pay you more than what they think you're worth. You just had a good performance review so even if they will only justify paying you $Y, they will know that you should be capable of achieving the goals they set for you to get to $Z. It's a win-win situation for both of you.

I was grossly underpaid for a 11months. I negociated a pay rise of ~ 53% which ended up with me being 10-20% above the avg salary in England for my degree.

The £££ wasn't a factor. He did offer to try and negociate something else for me when I called him. I'm taking ~ a 5% or maybe no decrease in pay as I have better benefits now. Not that I'll hopefully use them! I don't plan on dying anytime soon!

For me it was the lack of exposure to different things and doing a mundane job over and over again. It just wasn't my cup of tea basically. I want to be pushed and to be busy at work. This is why I did manage the big pay rise and leaped frog 4-6+ current employees. I also was going to walk if I didn't get my range.

But I think the guys I work with are great though :thumbsup:. Job wasn't great though.

Koing